| Lewis Hamilton 20:24 - Jun 23 with 9861 views | We_Love_Bluey |
Why hasn’t he had a knighthood? 5 times world champion. Andy Murray got one after winning one Wimbledon. 🤔 |  | | |  |
| Lewis Hamilton on 13:48 - Jun 24 with 2383 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Lewis Hamilton on 13:40 - Jun 24 by Ryorry |
That wasn't the case. We were out walking & chatting at the time of another Grand Prix, and I simply said that I'd never understood why LH was so unpopular, as I'd seen many people on here say they couldn't stand him. So he explained, saying his feeling was widely shared amongst the other competitors.
And (according to him) LH, far from having to fight to get the funding, was fast-tracked for it because the funders were keen to support someone from a minority group background as a way of virtue signalling.
I simply posted in the first place for balance re JimmyJazz 's post. Tho yes, I agree, the karting was a long time ago & LH may well be a changed man - I've no issue with him myself & am usually pleased when a Brit wins anything!
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I’m sorry but the funding point just sounds like sour grapes - when the funding did come it came because he was an incredibly talented driver, something which has subsequently been borne out by him becoming one of the most successful Formula One drivers of all time |  |
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| Lewis Hamilton on 13:55 - Jun 24 with 2371 views | Ryorry |
| Lewis Hamilton on 13:48 - Jun 24 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
I’m sorry but the funding point just sounds like sour grapes - when the funding did come it came because he was an incredibly talented driver, something which has subsequently been borne out by him becoming one of the most successful Formula One drivers of all time |
I'm only repeating what friend said - according to him no one denied that he was/is a talented driver, but so, he said, were others who would also have been successful if as much supported. Therefore it was perceived as unfair, so did cause a quite a bit of resentment, yes. |  |
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| Lewis Hamilton on 13:57 - Jun 24 with 2359 views | StokieBlue |
| Lewis Hamilton on 13:40 - Jun 24 by Ryorry |
That wasn't the case. We were out walking & chatting at the time of another Grand Prix, and I simply said that I'd never understood why LH was so unpopular, as I'd seen many people on here say they couldn't stand him. So he explained, saying his feeling was widely shared amongst the other competitors.
And (according to him) LH, far from having to fight to get the funding, was fast-tracked for it because the funders were keen to support someone from a minority group background as a way of virtue signalling.
I simply posted in the first place for balance re JimmyJazz 's post. Tho yes, I agree, the karting was a long time ago & LH may well be a changed man - I've no issue with him myself & am usually pleased when a Brit wins anything!
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"And (according to him) LH, far from having to fight to get the funding, was fast-tracked for it because the funders were keen to support someone from a minority group background as a way of virtue signalling. "
That explanation sounds even more bitter than what you had before!
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| Lewis Hamilton on 13:58 - Jun 24 with 2357 views | Ryorry |
| Lewis Hamilton on 13:57 - Jun 24 by StokieBlue |
"And (according to him) LH, far from having to fight to get the funding, was fast-tracked for it because the funders were keen to support someone from a minority group background as a way of virtue signalling. "
That explanation sounds even more bitter than what you had before!
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Again, according to him it was simply factually correct. | |
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| Lewis Hamilton on 13:59 - Jun 24 with 2351 views | StokieBlue |
| Lewis Hamilton on 13:58 - Jun 24 by Ryorry |
Again, according to him it was simply factually correct. |
How would he know though? Perhaps he would have gotten the sponsorship if he was actually better?
It's sounds awful if you think about it. Essentially he is saying LH is only a F1 driver because he's black. All the evidence to the contrary shows him to be the best driver of his era and there on merit.
I think I know how that would look to most people.
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| Lewis Hamilton on 14:00 - Jun 24 with 2344 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Lewis Hamilton on 13:55 - Jun 24 by Ryorry |
I'm only repeating what friend said - according to him no one denied that he was/is a talented driver, but so, he said, were others who would also have been successful if as much supported. Therefore it was perceived as unfair, so did cause a quite a bit of resentment, yes. |
I wasn’t saying they hadn’t said that, just that their opinion appeared to be sour grapes, and indeed whilst other drivers may well have had talent it’s a fairly laughable claim that they could have just become one of the most successful drivers ever too [Post edited 24 Jun 2019 14:04]
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| Lewis Hamilton on 14:02 - Jun 24 with 2331 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Lewis Hamilton on 13:59 - Jun 24 by StokieBlue |
How would he know though? Perhaps he would have gotten the sponsorship if he was actually better?
It's sounds awful if you think about it. Essentially he is saying LH is only a F1 driver because he's black. All the evidence to the contrary shows him to be the best driver of his era and there on merit.
I think I know how that would look to most people.
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Although come to think of it, that does explain all the other black drivers in F1 | |
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| Lewis Hamilton on 14:04 - Jun 24 with 2326 views | Ryorry |
| Lewis Hamilton on 13:59 - Jun 24 by StokieBlue |
How would he know though? Perhaps he would have gotten the sponsorship if he was actually better?
It's sounds awful if you think about it. Essentially he is saying LH is only a F1 driver because he's black. All the evidence to the contrary shows him to be the best driver of his era and there on merit.
I think I know how that would look to most people.
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Not what he said, which was that LH was given the chance when many others were just as talented.
Really haven't got any more to say on the subject, I'm only relaying what someone who was there at the time on the inside said - I had asked him as I was curious about/didn't understand why others on here had expressed dislike of LH; and friend replied factually & without bitterness - he's now v. happy doing a completely different job that he'd dreamt of doing since boyhood! | |
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| Lewis Hamilton on 14:07 - Jun 24 with 2315 views | StokieBlue |
| Lewis Hamilton on 14:04 - Jun 24 by Ryorry |
Not what he said, which was that LH was given the chance when many others were just as talented.
Really haven't got any more to say on the subject, I'm only relaying what someone who was there at the time on the inside said - I had asked him as I was curious about/didn't understand why others on here had expressed dislike of LH; and friend replied factually & without bitterness - he's now v. happy doing a completely different job that he'd dreamt of doing since boyhood! |
"Not what he said, which was that LH was given the chance when many others were just as talented."
The evidence from the last 15 years of F1 makes a mockery of that assertion given nobody has come through who is as talented as LH. Alonso perhaps but even then Hamilton beat him in his rookie year.
Anyway we can leave it there.
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| Lewis Hamilton on 14:11 - Jun 24 with 2308 views | Ryorry |
| Lewis Hamilton on 14:07 - Jun 24 by StokieBlue |
"Not what he said, which was that LH was given the chance when many others were just as talented."
The evidence from the last 15 years of F1 makes a mockery of that assertion given nobody has come through who is as talented as LH. Alonso perhaps but even then Hamilton beat him in his rookie year.
Anyway we can leave it there.
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He would argue because they didn't get LH's kick start - how many openings were there in F1 at that time?
Anyway, yep, leaving it there. | |
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| Lewis Hamilton on 14:12 - Jun 24 with 2301 views | StokieBlue |
| Lewis Hamilton on 14:11 - Jun 24 by Ryorry |
He would argue because they didn't get LH's kick start - how many openings were there in F1 at that time?
Anyway, yep, leaving it there. |
And the subsequent 15 years when nobody has come through?
It's making less sense the more you try and justify it I'm afraid.
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| Lewis Hamilton on 14:23 - Jun 24 with 2285 views | Ryorry |
| Lewis Hamilton on 14:12 - Jun 24 by StokieBlue |
And the subsequent 15 years when nobody has come through?
It's making less sense the more you try and justify it I'm afraid.
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I'm not talking about the 15 years inbetween, I'm talking about *then*, that year, that one chance that was up for grabs that year, for that particular group.
And for the umpteenth time, I'm not defending it, I'm simply relaying his comments which were given very factually and without side. Not sure why people are trying to twist things here.
Have a nice afternoon. [Post edited 24 Jun 2019 14:24]
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| Lewis Hamilton on 14:48 - Jun 24 with 2262 views | Kropotkin123 |
| Lewis Hamilton on 14:04 - Jun 24 by Ryorry |
Not what he said, which was that LH was given the chance when many others were just as talented.
Really haven't got any more to say on the subject, I'm only relaying what someone who was there at the time on the inside said - I had asked him as I was curious about/didn't understand why others on here had expressed dislike of LH; and friend replied factually & without bitterness - he's now v. happy doing a completely different job that he'd dreamt of doing since boyhood! |
Perhaps his ability to judge the full future potential of kids, when he was a kid himself, is not as great as he thinks. It is a more likely than everyone else being just as talented. Particularly from the videos I've seen posted from his karting days. |  |
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| Lewis Hamilton on 15:08 - Jun 24 with 2246 views | sundaze |
| Lewis Hamilton on 08:25 - Jun 24 by StokieBlue |
That simply isn't fair. He's won the championship without the best car (McClaren) and he's consistently beaten his teammate in the same car.
I'm not comparing to Murray but plenty on here seem very quick to belittle his achievements. It's rather sad.
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Not sure the McLaren wasn't the best car in 2008, problem for McLaren was after losing Alonso they brought in Kovalainen and he struggled to get the best out of the car.
At least it was exciting that season, right up until the final corner of the final GP. |  | | |
| Lewis Hamilton on 15:41 - Jun 24 with 2232 views | Father_Jack |
he needs to go on Strictly. |  |
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| Lewis Hamilton on 16:18 - Jun 24 with 2216 views | yorkshireblue |
For what it worth - which is nothing - I personally don't think any sportsperson should be knighted whilst still competing at the highest level. |  | | |
| Lewis Hamilton on 16:38 - Jun 24 with 2205 views | BigManBlue |
Phil Taylor.
I rest my case... |  |
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| Lewis Hamilton on 16:46 - Jun 24 with 2203 views | sundaze |
| Lewis Hamilton on 16:18 - Jun 24 by yorkshireblue |
For what it worth - which is nothing - I personally don't think any sportsperson should be knighted whilst still competing at the highest level. |
Agreed, I think they hand out too many Knighthoods and Damehoods, especially amongst sports people, it cheapens the value of them.
They should be rewarded for a lifetime of dedication to their chosen sport, not just for current success. | | | |
| Lewis Hamilton on 18:50 - Jun 24 with 2175 views | Kropotkin123 |
| Lewis Hamilton on 16:18 - Jun 24 by yorkshireblue |
For what it worth - which is nothing - I personally don't think any sportsperson should be knighted whilst still competing at the highest level. |
Agreed | |
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| Lewis Hamilton on 18:52 - Jun 24 with 2172 views | chicoazul |
BEcause he's a tax exile. |  |
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| Lewis Hamilton on 10:11 - Jun 25 with 2107 views | BlueRaider |
| Lewis Hamilton on 12:57 - Jun 24 by StokieBlue |
Without getting into the specific knighthood argument, I always find this line of argument rather pathetic. It's tripped out for all kinds of things.
The logically conclusion is that nobody can ever leave this country if they are born here because they won't be paying tax. The argument is made against countless people and seems rather bitter.
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People can leave if they want to, most of them are not being spoken about in terms of getting honours.
He uses his British nationality when it suits him, but contributes nothing.
He's a leech in my view |  |
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| Lewis Hamilton on 12:06 - Jun 25 with 2089 views | glasso |
I don't think living in Monaco helps his cause. | | | |
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