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GE maps by age group on 10:57 - Dec 31 by Pinewoodblue
I've queued for fuel in France and Ireland but the only times I can recall doing so in the UK is on budget day if Petrol went up 1d a gallon at 6pm.
I do remember being issued with a ration book for fuel though.
If you remember the ration book then you should remember Sailor Ted didn't ration petrol / diesel for boats that meant to avoid petrol rationing you could go to the petrol station with jerry cans & get as much as you wanted.
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GE maps by age group on 11:12 - Dec 31 with 647 views
GE maps by age group on 10:39 - Dec 31 by BlueForYou
Spot on! I was going to say exactly the same. Oh & the reason Blair never had strikes was because Thatcher made them illegal. I was brought up in the 70's & Labour brought this country to its knees. It was generally worse than what you read. Strikes, strikes, strikes, for very little reason. 3 day working week, power cuts, rubbish went uncollected for months at one stage. We were a laughing stock throughout the world. Labour went on throughout the 80's with loony left wing councils creating the same chaos. Inhad enough & went to live in Australia!
Quite wide of the mark there; you seem to have conflated all the ails of a decade and picked a lazy explanation. The 3 day working week was under Ted Heath for starters (it was a Tory govt).
Very different times back then with a complex range of factors affecting the country, as Guthers has tried to explain a few times now.
Perhaps you cant remember the 60's & 70's then. Red Robbo bringing British Leyland to a stand still nearly every day. The dead not being buried during the Winter of Discontent. Oh yes great days. At least the music cheered us up.
I have no idea how that relates to today or why it would be like that again though, which is the point.
Many previous incarnations of government have done great and terrible things but that's not reason to vote/not vote for the same [named] party today.
Times have changed. I have repeated several times on here that there were 3 large strikes only a few weeks ago. Nothing to do with Labour.
If a few had opened their eyes they might have realised that many of the things workers didn't have back then, they do have now, and so work is a better place for people in general.
Much of that change came under EU rulings of course, but there ya go.
3 Day Week and power cuts both under Heath's Conservative government in 1974.
Sandwiched between periods of Labour at a time when the unions were rampant & destroying the country. The winter of discontent was under Labour & inflation was around 15% from memory. No thanks! Blair took a far more responsible & business oriented approach, basically copying most of Bill Clinton’s ideas,& started off ok until he took us into Iraq.
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GE maps by age group on 12:39 - Dec 31 with 606 views
GE maps by age group on 11:12 - Dec 31 by Swansea_Blue
Quite wide of the mark there; you seem to have conflated all the ails of a decade and picked a lazy explanation. The 3 day working week was under Ted Heath for starters (it was a Tory govt).
Very different times back then with a complex range of factors affecting the country, as Guthers has tried to explain a few times now.
No, no, you're not understanding.
If we ever have another Labour government the country will be automatically thrust back in time.
The weather will readjust, all the jobs will disappear. As will mangoes.
TWTD will exist only in hard paper copies and the Audi offer will become Win A Capri [Ghia - of course].
And yet foreigners will be swarming over in their droves.
GE maps by age group on 12:33 - Dec 31 by BlueForYou
Sandwiched between periods of Labour at a time when the unions were rampant & destroying the country. The winter of discontent was under Labour & inflation was around 15% from memory. No thanks! Blair took a far more responsible & business oriented approach, basically copying most of Bill Clinton’s ideas,& started off ok until he took us into Iraq.
GE maps by age group on 10:57 - Dec 31 by Pinewoodblue
I've queued for fuel in France and Ireland but the only times I can recall doing so in the UK is on budget day if Petrol went up 1d a gallon at 6pm.
I do remember being issued with a ration book for fuel though.
I can remember queuing for petrol under Blair.
Ration books will be back within 20 years or so. Meat, petrol, dairy will all be subject to rationing for climate change reasons.
In the spirit of reconciliation and happiness at the end of the Banter Era (RIP) and as a result of promotion I have cleared out my ignore list. Look forwards to reading your posts!
There are two basic problems with this simplistic analysis- if you ignore the ther blinding reality that very few seats ever change:
There aren't that many voters in the 18-24 age group -
And as people earn a bit more they vote for self-interest and fall for the 'tax cuts' dangers of a marxist corbyn (insert name here) governement etc etc.
the tories are even trying their greed is good philosphy on the great unwashed even we speak.... minimum wage raised by 4 x the rate of inflation.... ignoring that this will be paid by employers who will put up prices - and that those hard-won populist Brexit votes have already lost people the equivalent of a year's salary since the referendum
That’s mainly because only the young and naive would vote for Corbyn. They don’t yet earn any money to be taxed on, and have no life experience only ideals (not all bad of course).
I bet those who get good jobs and earn good money within 10 years from now would not vote for Corbyn. In fact the figures show a move towards the right as people get older and have more to lose.
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GE maps by age group on 15:31 - Dec 31 with 530 views
GE maps by age group on 15:13 - Dec 31 by Oxford_Blue
That’s mainly because only the young and naive would vote for Corbyn. They don’t yet earn any money to be taxed on, and have no life experience only ideals (not all bad of course).
I bet those who get good jobs and earn good money within 10 years from now would not vote for Corbyn. In fact the figures show a move towards the right as people get older and have more to lose.
GE maps by age group on 15:13 - Dec 31 by Oxford_Blue
That’s mainly because only the young and naive would vote for Corbyn. They don’t yet earn any money to be taxed on, and have no life experience only ideals (not all bad of course).
I bet those who get good jobs and earn good money within 10 years from now would not vote for Corbyn. In fact the figures show a move towards the right as people get older and have more to lose.
"More to lose" or more to share with those less fortunate? Seems to be all about me me me with you tory voters.
GE maps by age group on 15:13 - Dec 31 by Oxford_Blue
That’s mainly because only the young and naive would vote for Corbyn. They don’t yet earn any money to be taxed on, and have no life experience only ideals (not all bad of course).
I bet those who get good jobs and earn good money within 10 years from now would not vote for Corbyn. In fact the figures show a move towards the right as people get older and have more to lose.
You'd bet wrongly and all this post shows is your world view and the assumption that everyone else in your position thinks the way you do.
GE maps by age group on 10:39 - Dec 31 by BlueForYou
Spot on! I was going to say exactly the same. Oh & the reason Blair never had strikes was because Thatcher made them illegal. I was brought up in the 70's & Labour brought this country to its knees. It was generally worse than what you read. Strikes, strikes, strikes, for very little reason. 3 day working week, power cuts, rubbish went uncollected for months at one stage. We were a laughing stock throughout the world. Labour went on throughout the 80's with loony left wing councils creating the same chaos. Inhad enough & went to live in Australia!
So "Thatcher made strikes illegal" which is why a Labour government since her did not have them and yet we need to worry that another Labour government would take us back to the 70s and general strikes?
GE maps by age group on 17:11 - Dec 31 by Nthsuffolkblue
So "Thatcher made strikes illegal" which is why a Labour government since her did not have them and yet we need to worry that another Labour government would take us back to the 70s and general strikes?
With logic like that, there is little hope.
Heh.
It's like watching a Harry Enfield creation at times.
Democracy, whilst crap, is made more crap by FPTP. At least PR would give some semblance of representation.
I would hope that this generation of young people, when they grow up won’t forget the ideals of fairness and tolerance and slip to the right. There’s some adage about voting labour when young and Tory when old. Let’s hope we buck that trend.
Edit: although I guess I’ve bucked it the other way because I didn’t vote for labour.
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I'm interested in your first 3 words.
Can you expand on what alternative system would be less-crap than democracy?
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GE maps by age group on 17:47 - Dec 31 with 438 views
You'd bet wrongly and all this post shows is your world view and the assumption that everyone else in your position thinks the way you do.
You've discredited yourself on some scale there.
Nope. I’ve just set out a view and explained why.
I’ve never claimed that everyone agrees.
In any event, I pay around £50-60,000 tax every year, not counting National Insurance, so it’s utter nonsense to say that Tory voters don’t contribute. I bet I pay more tax than many, so contribute more.
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GE maps by age group on 17:52 - Dec 31 with 430 views
"More to lose" or more to share with those less fortunate? Seems to be all about me me me with you tory voters.
Hardly. As I said already, the more successful you are, the more tax you pay.
There is absolutely nothing to be ashamed of in working hard, and wanting to do well for yourself. Quite rightly, enlightened self interest means that the tax you pay as you earn more money increases. So you’ll find that successful high earners contribute a lot to the system.
Your parody of conservative voters is outdated and untrue.
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GE maps by age group on 18:01 - Dec 31 with 422 views
GE maps by age group on 18:01 - Dec 31 by StokieBlue
A paradigm you may wish to apply to your initial post.
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Hardly! I at least explained why I thought what I did as opposed to a one line “oh that’s rubbish” response. And in any event the whole point is that the OP says those who are older are less likely to vote Labour.
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