| Long-Bailey 09:48 - Jan 7 with 4422 views | Bluefish |
Does she really share the same views independently as Corbz and McDonnell or is she just playing to that crowd to be their puppet? |  |
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| Long-Bailey on 19:00 - Jan 7 with 1417 views | Swansea_Blue |
From the little I've heard she seem lacking in views and ideas for direction. She'd be a bad, the worse, choice imo (spoken from the position of the audience they need to win over to stand a chance: someone who hates the Tories, but not a traditional labour voter). |  |
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| Long-Bailey on 20:18 - Jan 7 with 1372 views | hampstead_blue |
| Long-Bailey on 14:15 - Jan 7 by reusersfreekicks |
Rubbish as per. BJ is a very poor debater hence he ran scared from proper interviews. Suggest you find a hero with intellect and substance [Post edited 7 Jan 2020 14:16]
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Of course he is, and next thing you'll be telling me is that JC was 10/10?
BJ will eat them, rub his tummy, and ask for seconds! |  |
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Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
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| Long-Bailey on 22:28 - Jan 7 with 1329 views | BlueNomad |
| Long-Bailey on 20:18 - Jan 7 by hampstead_blue |
Of course he is, and next thing you'll be telling me is that JC was 10/10?
BJ will eat them, rub his tummy, and ask for seconds! |
Yeah ok. He can use his favourite closure of debate, as perfected when facing questions as Mayor, and dismiss questions with “get stuffed” |  | | |
| Long-Bailey on 00:57 - Jan 8 with 1272 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Long-Bailey on 15:36 - Jan 7 by BlueNomad |
Shall we start with Universal Credit, "back to work policies", immigration policies that appease the far-right, a Home Secretary who would gladly bring back the death penalty despite the risk of miscarriages of justice and work from there? [Post edited 7 Jan 2020 15:37]
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What is right wing about Universal Credit? I'm not saying that it's a perfect safety net - but a safety net it is, Immigration policies????????????? - lazy argument, we have mass immigration, don't confuse economic thinking with right wing thinking. Death penalty - I totally disagree with the death penalty but we haven't got it anyway so I'm failing to see your argument.
You are completely wrong, lazy thinking.Quite simply you have no idea.
Much is spouted about right wing policies but UK is one of the most liberal countries in the world, you are talking absolute nonsense. |  |
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| Long-Bailey on 07:56 - Jan 8 with 1202 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Long-Bailey on 00:57 - Jan 8 by Lord_Lucan |
What is right wing about Universal Credit? I'm not saying that it's a perfect safety net - but a safety net it is, Immigration policies????????????? - lazy argument, we have mass immigration, don't confuse economic thinking with right wing thinking. Death penalty - I totally disagree with the death penalty but we haven't got it anyway so I'm failing to see your argument.
You are completely wrong, lazy thinking.Quite simply you have no idea.
Much is spouted about right wing policies but UK is one of the most liberal countries in the world, you are talking absolute nonsense. |
I would like to apologise.
We disagree on things but that came out a bit narky, I woke up with a sore head.
Apologies again. | |
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| Long-Bailey on 08:25 - Jan 8 with 1165 views | Herbivore |
| Long-Bailey on 20:18 - Jan 7 by hampstead_blue |
Of course he is, and next thing you'll be telling me is that JC was 10/10?
BJ will eat them, rub his tummy, and ask for seconds! |
What planet are you living on? Boris can't string a sentence together and has no head for detail whatsoever. He hid in a fridge and stole a phone rather than take questions from rather tame ITV journalists. When confronted with members of the public he has no idea what to say to them. He's a terrible speaker and an even worse debater, it's why he's so far avoided as much scrutiny as possible since becoming PM. He'd get torn apart by a 5 year old girl at PMQs, let alone an adult politician. |  |
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| Long-Bailey on 08:34 - Jan 8 with 1170 views | chicoazul |
| Long-Bailey on 15:36 - Jan 7 by BlueNomad |
Shall we start with Universal Credit, "back to work policies", immigration policies that appease the far-right, a Home Secretary who would gladly bring back the death penalty despite the risk of miscarriages of justice and work from there? [Post edited 7 Jan 2020 15:37]
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lololol at the idea that a literal welfare system is an example of a right wing government. What you may mean I guess is how it is implemented? Or the sentiment behind it?
From my limited understanding "Boris" wants to bring in a points-based Aussie style immigration system. What's right wing about that?
And finally we don't have the death penalty, but famously right wing countries like China Cuba and Japan do. |  |
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| Long-Bailey on 11:49 - Jan 8 with 1104 views | BlueNomad |
| Long-Bailey on 07:56 - Jan 8 by Lord_Lucan |
I would like to apologise.
We disagree on things but that came out a bit narky, I woke up with a sore head.
Apologies again. |
Apology accepted thank you. It was a bit lazy as I was in a hurry and I didn't do my own points justice. Believe me, I do know what I'm saying - there is without doubt a move to the right across most of Europe (and the US) but my rushed examples were perhaps not the best. | | | |
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| Long-Bailey on 12:11 - Jan 8 with 1079 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Long-Bailey on 00:57 - Jan 8 by Lord_Lucan |
What is right wing about Universal Credit? I'm not saying that it's a perfect safety net - but a safety net it is, Immigration policies????????????? - lazy argument, we have mass immigration, don't confuse economic thinking with right wing thinking. Death penalty - I totally disagree with the death penalty but we haven't got it anyway so I'm failing to see your argument.
You are completely wrong, lazy thinking.Quite simply you have no idea.
Much is spouted about right wing policies but UK is one of the most liberal countries in the world, you are talking absolute nonsense. |
Social liberalism (which is generally viewed as left-wing) has to be viewed separately to economic liberalism (which is almost always viewed as being right-wing). Parties' economic programmes tend to used more to place parties on the political spectrum than anything else (except in a few countries like Israel where there are additional axes on the spectrum like religion and security).
The Conservatives are relatively socially liberal (certainly compared to eastern Europe), but they are probably the most economically liberal major conservative party in western Europe. |  | | |
| Long-Bailey on 12:13 - Jan 8 with 1071 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Long-Bailey on 08:34 - Jan 8 by chicoazul |
lololol at the idea that a literal welfare system is an example of a right wing government. What you may mean I guess is how it is implemented? Or the sentiment behind it?
From my limited understanding "Boris" wants to bring in a points-based Aussie style immigration system. What's right wing about that?
And finally we don't have the death penalty, but famously right wing countries like China Cuba and Japan do. |
Japan has been governed by a right-wing party for all but four years since 1948. | | | |
| Long-Bailey on 12:24 - Jan 8 with 1052 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Long-Bailey on 12:13 - Jan 8 by Clapham_Junction |
Japan has been governed by a right-wing party for all but four years since 1948. |
I think people confuse right wing with social responsibility. | |
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| Long-Bailey on 13:21 - Jan 8 with 1012 views | jaykay |
| Long-Bailey on 13:34 - Jan 7 by GlasgowBlue |
Bore off Boatty McMoanface. Your credibility left the building a long time ago.
A weak and ineffectual opposition leads to weak and ineffectual government. As we have witnessed over the last few years. |
i see hamstead has joined his fan club along with tractorboy james |  |
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| Long-Bailey on 13:24 - Jan 8 with 1007 views | DanTheMan |
| Long-Bailey on 08:34 - Jan 8 by chicoazul |
lololol at the idea that a literal welfare system is an example of a right wing government. What you may mean I guess is how it is implemented? Or the sentiment behind it?
From my limited understanding "Boris" wants to bring in a points-based Aussie style immigration system. What's right wing about that?
And finally we don't have the death penalty, but famously right wing countries like China Cuba and Japan do. |
I get whilst you're using China and Cuba as a fairly jokey example, but Japan generally is "right-wing". |  |
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| Long-Bailey on 13:26 - Jan 8 with 1000 views | chicoazul |
| Long-Bailey on 13:24 - Jan 8 by DanTheMan |
I get whilst you're using China and Cuba as a fairly jokey example, but Japan generally is "right-wing". |
Not sure I agree. It certainly is conservative, but right wing..? | |
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| Long-Bailey on 13:30 - Jan 8 with 983 views | DanTheMan |
| Long-Bailey on 13:26 - Jan 8 by chicoazul |
Not sure I agree. It certainly is conservative, but right wing..? |
In some aspects, yes. Not all.
Conservatism is generally considered right wing. Obviously there are certain aspects of Japan that fit more into what people would consider "left-wing".
Japan is pretty different though to Western countries when it comes to the labels. They're pretty big on things like social welfare for example. | |
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| Long-Bailey on 13:37 - Jan 8 with 953 views | chicoazul |
| Long-Bailey on 13:30 - Jan 8 by DanTheMan |
In some aspects, yes. Not all.
Conservatism is generally considered right wing. Obviously there are certain aspects of Japan that fit more into what people would consider "left-wing".
Japan is pretty different though to Western countries when it comes to the labels. They're pretty big on things like social welfare for example. |
Absolutely. So I don't think that it's right to say they are right wing. They are certainly very tough on crime but a lot of the things Japan are economically for instance known for such as monetary easing QE and huge debt are not right wing for me. And they are very big on the importance of the family. | |
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| Long-Bailey on 15:23 - Jan 8 with 902 views | noggin |
Is this what Britain has come to? Childish snipes at politicians and giggling with each other over said snipes. Unbelievable.Do any of you care that millions are living in poverty and working people are having to use food banks? [Post edited 8 Jan 2020 15:28]
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| Long-Bailey on 19:28 - Jan 8 with 851 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Long-Bailey on 13:37 - Jan 8 by chicoazul |
Absolutely. So I don't think that it's right to say they are right wing. They are certainly very tough on crime but a lot of the things Japan are economically for instance known for such as monetary easing QE and huge debt are not right wing for me. And they are very big on the importance of the family. |
This thread is so painful | |
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| Long-Bailey on 21:02 - Jan 8 with 829 views | Bluesquid |
Shameful, horrible stuff from the Torygraph.
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| Long-Bailey on 22:09 - Jan 8 with 792 views | Herbivore |
| Long-Bailey on 15:58 - Jan 7 by chicoazul |
Lots of people get very confused by this simple fact; this is not by any measure a right wing government. |
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| Long-Bailey on 22:24 - Jan 8 with 773 views | vapour_trail |
| Long-Bailey on 11:17 - Jan 7 by brazil1982 |
Just imagine Wrong-Daily as PM. Good lord. |
Whilst I agree with you that RLB would be a poor choice for the opposition, any grown up in his 50s (I’m guessing) that has a jokey name - ere lads I call her Wrong-Daily, see what I’ve done there - for their politician of choice is a bit of a bellend really. |  |
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| Long-Bailey on 22:24 - Jan 8 with 771 views | vapour_trail |
| Long-Bailey on 12:13 - Jan 7 by chicoazul |
People have been saying this for years and it doesnt happen. If RLB does get the job and if it's true she is more of the Maximum Leader then, considering all the current Labour MPs got their jobs on the basis of the Labour manifesto written by the Maximum Leader, it would be rich sauce indeed for them to do such a thing. |
See also ‘Maximum Leader’ | |
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