| Long-Bailey 09:48 - Jan 7 with 4420 views | Bluefish |
Does she really share the same views independently as Corbz and McDonnell or is she just playing to that crowd to be their puppet? |  |
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| Long-Bailey on 12:55 - Jan 7 with 1050 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Long-Bailey on 12:29 - Jan 7 by Darth_Koont |
As long as you lot push the lie that social democracy is the hard left then the whole country will be stuck in the last century.
What the country needs most is an alternative to the ever rightwards direction of travel that has given us an awful government and awful initiatives like Brexit. |
Had the country had a viable alternative in the last election, we wouldn’t have found ourselves with the most right wing government in recent history |  |
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| Long-Bailey on 13:08 - Jan 7 with 1039 views | BlueNomad |
| Long-Bailey on 12:55 - Jan 7 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Had the country had a viable alternative in the last election, we wouldn’t have found ourselves with the most right wing government in recent history |
We will awake from this nightmare one day |  | | |
| Long-Bailey on 13:14 - Jan 7 with 1022 views | Darth_Koont |
| Long-Bailey on 12:55 - Jan 7 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Had the country had a viable alternative in the last election, we wouldn’t have found ourselves with the most right wing government in recent history |
A government that's gone further right every election? And increased its majority with Get Brexit Done the standout message?
If you look at the country then it's pretty clear where focus and investment is needed and where we've dropped the ball. That's the alternative right there.
In the general political forum there's so little idea of what is needed from government I don't think the accepted view of what is a viable alternative is that relevant. That's the main thing for Labour over the next few years - change the debate (and especially the standard of debate itself) like in Scotland where the major UK parties are now also-rans. |  |
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| Long-Bailey on 13:20 - Jan 7 with 1009 views | hampstead_blue |
| Long-Bailey on 12:51 - Jan 7 by BlueNomad |
I think Jess Phillips would rip Johnson apart every week in PMQ's which would be great; not sure of her leadership credentials though.
Agree that RLB would be more of a continuity leader which would not be effective. |
Do you really think JP would get the better of BJ at PMQs? He will toy with her for a while and then school her.
She's good at shouting at clouds but not much else.
'It's not fair' won't get you far at the dispatch box.
RLB the same. She was awful this morning on R4. Low on intellect and just pushing a broken ideology up a hill.
Your only hope is KS. He's a bright lad and could do better than any of the others. |  |
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| Long-Bailey on 13:34 - Jan 7 with 978 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Long-Bailey on 12:19 - Jan 7 by Darth_Koont |
I'm enjoying this thread.
All this agitated interest in a leadership candidate from people who don't have any interest in Labour's policies. |
Bore off Boatty McMoanface. Your credibility left the building a long time ago.
A weak and ineffectual opposition leads to weak and ineffectual government. As we have witnessed over the last few years. |  |
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| Long-Bailey on 13:44 - Jan 7 with 955 views | Darth_Koont |
| Long-Bailey on 13:34 - Jan 7 by GlasgowBlue |
Bore off Boatty McMoanface. Your credibility left the building a long time ago.
A weak and ineffectual opposition leads to weak and ineffectual government. As we have witnessed over the last few years. |
No. Weak and ineffectual standards of debate lead to awful governments getting elected and awful policies like Brexit being adopted. And gives free rein for liars and smearers like you.
But, of course, you're attacking my credibility ...  | |
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| Long-Bailey on 13:45 - Jan 7 with 952 views | lowhouseblue |
| Long-Bailey on 13:44 - Jan 7 by Darth_Koont |
No. Weak and ineffectual standards of debate lead to awful governments getting elected and awful policies like Brexit being adopted. And gives free rein for liars and smearers like you.
But, of course, you're attacking my credibility ... |
your what? |  |
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| Long-Bailey on 13:46 - Jan 7 with 950 views | Darth_Koont |
Your mum. | |
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| Long-Bailey on 13:47 - Jan 7 with 943 views | No9 |
Not that Andrew Neil's long list of right wing interests (see HoC register) has anything to do with it? |  | | |
| Long-Bailey on 14:10 - Jan 7 with 888 views | brazil1982 |
| Long-Bailey on 13:47 - Jan 7 by No9 |
Not that Andrew Neil's long list of right wing interests (see HoC register) has anything to do with it? |
To do with what? Her car crash interview? |  | | |
| Long-Bailey on 14:14 - Jan 7 with 880 views | BlueNomad |
| Long-Bailey on 13:20 - Jan 7 by hampstead_blue |
Do you really think JP would get the better of BJ at PMQs? He will toy with her for a while and then school her.
She's good at shouting at clouds but not much else.
'It's not fair' won't get you far at the dispatch box.
RLB the same. She was awful this morning on R4. Low on intellect and just pushing a broken ideology up a hill.
Your only hope is KS. He's a bright lad and could do better than any of the others. |
He is a buffoon - I will answer your question with one of my own. Why do you think he would "school" her?
Yes JP does shout, but at clouds? I tend to remember her letting rip at every male Tory MP in a crowded Commons. She gets angry at social injustice so Johnson will be an easy target and his performances at the dispatch box have shown he is only capable of saying the square root of ****-all! When Brexit is "done" what else will his mantra be? | | | |
| Long-Bailey on 14:15 - Jan 7 with 876 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Long-Bailey on 13:20 - Jan 7 by hampstead_blue |
Do you really think JP would get the better of BJ at PMQs? He will toy with her for a while and then school her.
She's good at shouting at clouds but not much else.
'It's not fair' won't get you far at the dispatch box.
RLB the same. She was awful this morning on R4. Low on intellect and just pushing a broken ideology up a hill.
Your only hope is KS. He's a bright lad and could do better than any of the others. |
Rubbish as per. BJ is a very poor debater hence he ran scared from proper interviews. Suggest you find a hero with intellect and substance [Post edited 7 Jan 2020 14:16]
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| Long-Bailey on 14:23 - Jan 7 with 849 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Long-Bailey on 13:14 - Jan 7 by Darth_Koont |
A government that's gone further right every election? And increased its majority with Get Brexit Done the standout message?
If you look at the country then it's pretty clear where focus and investment is needed and where we've dropped the ball. That's the alternative right there.
In the general political forum there's so little idea of what is needed from government I don't think the accepted view of what is a viable alternative is that relevant. That's the main thing for Labour over the next few years - change the debate (and especially the standard of debate itself) like in Scotland where the major UK parties are now also-rans. |
No, the main thing for Labour over the next few years is to present something appealing to the electorate that actually sees them elected, so they can implement some policies that actually help people
Rather than continue the current ideological w*nkfest that just saw them crushed at the ballot box and actually helping precisely no-one | |
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| Long-Bailey on 14:25 - Jan 7 with 840 views | eireblue |
| Long-Bailey on 13:34 - Jan 7 by GlasgowBlue |
Bore off Boatty McMoanface. Your credibility left the building a long time ago.
A weak and ineffectual opposition leads to weak and ineffectual government. As we have witnessed over the last few years. |
In previous elections, prior to the last one, When you were advocating for the Tories, I think you forgot to mention that they were weak and ineffectual.
Try and choose a better party next time. |  | | |
| Long-Bailey on 14:45 - Jan 7 with 811 views | Darth_Koont |
| Long-Bailey on 14:23 - Jan 7 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
No, the main thing for Labour over the next few years is to present something appealing to the electorate that actually sees them elected, so they can implement some policies that actually help people
Rather than continue the current ideological w*nkfest that just saw them crushed at the ballot box and actually helping precisely no-one |
You mean policies that people are generally in favour of? Well, they were.
But not surprisingly, the electorate wasn't in favour when the policy package was illiterately described as Marxist (your "ideological w*nkfest" no doubt) or when the leadership was smeared as terrorist-loving antisemites or when the majority of the press was lying about the EU and our need to Get Brexit Done.
Any opposition that first has to court the right-wing press won't deliver what the country and its people needs. Indeed it just continues our political system of a centre that is going ever rightwards. | |
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| Long-Bailey on 14:51 - Jan 7 with 797 views | eireblue |
| Long-Bailey on 12:29 - Jan 7 by Darth_Koont |
As long as you lot push the lie that social democracy is the hard left then the whole country will be stuck in the last century.
What the country needs most is an alternative to the ever rightwards direction of travel that has given us an awful government and awful initiatives like Brexit. |
You shouldn’t be too harsh on Hammy.
Recently, whenever he comes up with an idea to improve things, it is always a Socialist policy | | | |
| Long-Bailey on 14:58 - Jan 7 with 773 views | Darth_Koont |
| Long-Bailey on 14:51 - Jan 7 by eireblue |
You shouldn’t be too harsh on Hammy.
Recently, whenever he comes up with an idea to improve things, it is always a Socialist policy |
Indeed.
That's the sheer stupidity of it with people trying to argue policy when all they're doing is arguing for their particular colour and brand label. | |
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| Long-Bailey on 15:18 - Jan 7 with 749 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Long-Bailey on 12:55 - Jan 7 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Had the country had a viable alternative in the last election, we wouldn’t have found ourselves with the most right wing government in recent history |
What makes you think this is a right wing government? Take a step back from social media and tell me why it is that right wing. |  |
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| Long-Bailey on 15:36 - Jan 7 with 730 views | BlueNomad |
| Long-Bailey on 15:18 - Jan 7 by Lord_Lucan |
What makes you think this is a right wing government? Take a step back from social media and tell me why it is that right wing. |
Shall we start with Universal Credit, "back to work policies", immigration policies that appease the far-right, a Home Secretary who would gladly bring back the death penalty despite the risk of miscarriages of justice and work from there? [Post edited 7 Jan 2020 15:37]
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| Long-Bailey on 15:51 - Jan 7 with 695 views | brazil1982 |
| Long-Bailey on 15:36 - Jan 7 by BlueNomad |
Shall we start with Universal Credit, "back to work policies", immigration policies that appease the far-right, a Home Secretary who would gladly bring back the death penalty despite the risk of miscarriages of justice and work from there? [Post edited 7 Jan 2020 15:37]
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"Back to work policies" What are these ? - when you've had a period of illness?
Capital punishment is a penalty in Cuba, Japan and Belarus. Is there a right wing government there? | | | |
| Long-Bailey on 15:56 - Jan 7 with 684 views | lowhouseblue |
| Long-Bailey on 15:36 - Jan 7 by BlueNomad |
Shall we start with Universal Credit, "back to work policies", immigration policies that appease the far-right, a Home Secretary who would gladly bring back the death penalty despite the risk of miscarriages of justice and work from there? [Post edited 7 Jan 2020 15:37]
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can a country which has had net immigration of 1.4 million in the past 5 years really be described as having 'immigration policies that appease the far-right'? | |
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| Long-Bailey on 15:58 - Jan 7 with 677 views | chicoazul |
| Long-Bailey on 15:18 - Jan 7 by Lord_Lucan |
What makes you think this is a right wing government? Take a step back from social media and tell me why it is that right wing. |
Lots of people get very confused by this simple fact; this is not by any measure a right wing government. |  |
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| Long-Bailey on 16:28 - Jan 7 with 632 views | GeoffSentence |
| Long-Bailey on 12:51 - Jan 7 by BlueNomad |
I think Jess Phillips would rip Johnson apart every week in PMQ's which would be great; not sure of her leadership credentials though.
Agree that RLB would be more of a continuity leader which would not be effective. |
She might do, but only if BoJo bothers turning up to it rather than delegating to a lackey. He does have a bit of a record for avoiding scrutiny. |  |
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| Long-Bailey on 18:28 - Jan 7 with 577 views | bazgammon |
| Long-Bailey on 12:29 - Jan 7 by Darth_Koont |
As long as you lot push the lie that social democracy is the hard left then the whole country will be stuck in the last century.
What the country needs most is an alternative to the ever rightwards direction of travel that has given us an awful government and awful initiatives like Brexit. |
says a Scottish nationalist | |
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