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The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) 08:37 - Jan 30 with 35914 viewsmonytowbray

https://www.instagram.com/p/B76d5hQgPnu/

Friend found this sticker on a lamp post in town yesterday and rightly ripped it down. Apparently some others saying “It’s okay to be white” have been spotted too.

I’m sure this has nothing to do with the fact Brexit is coming up and we’ve just voted in a PM who has a history of unapologetic racist and homophobic comments :S

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The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 15:54 - Jan 30 with 4925 viewsmonytowbray

The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 15:48 - Jan 30 by GaryCooper

More confliction, decrying personal attack yet following it up with a personal attack, an insult towards you is far more insulting than any offered by you isn't it? All animals are equal blah blah blah.

I don't really feel the need to show conspicuous condemnation, but if it makes you feel good about yourself who am I to argue?


Doesn't surprise me the concept of not tolerating intolerance goes beyond your comprehension really.

I have no issue giving back what you choose to put out there in my direction. Perhaps if that's an issue for you you should think about how you interact with others?

Your opinion of me, as someone who is evidently an ironic old school punk fan with many right wing/dated views and little knowledge of me as person, means very little to me.

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The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 15:59 - Jan 30 with 4889 viewsGaryCooper

The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 15:54 - Jan 30 by monytowbray

Doesn't surprise me the concept of not tolerating intolerance goes beyond your comprehension really.

I have no issue giving back what you choose to put out there in my direction. Perhaps if that's an issue for you you should think about how you interact with others?

Your opinion of me, as someone who is evidently an ironic old school punk fan with many right wing/dated views and little knowledge of me as person, means very little to me.


More insults, double down weekend punk.
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The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 16:11 - Jan 30 with 4885 viewsmonytowbray

The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 15:59 - Jan 30 by GaryCooper

More insults, double down weekend punk.


Weekend Punk? HAHAHAH. Of course I am. See you at the Casual Nausea show tonight, yeah? I'm sure everyone there in the Ipswich Punk scene will be excited to hear your views and welcome you with open arms off the back of them...

On that note, seeing as you have little to add but continually a petty personal squabble (which is all you've really done full stop in this thread) I'm going to throw you on my ignore list now. Laters.
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The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 16:13 - Jan 30 with 4857 viewsGlasgowBlue

The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 15:35 - Jan 30 by monytowbray

You seem to think being tolerant also covers being tolerant to those who are intolerant, which would be your first mistake. You're verging on reverse racism territory here and still haven't said much about the actual OP in regards to your views which is worrying.

If you're concerned I may haveHPD in your view then perhaps you should stop making things so personal? Just a thought. Although in all honesty based on the posts I've seen of yours I'm not to bothered about your opinion of me which contradicts your diagnosis. I believe I've said to you before Strummer would roll in his grave knowing the words you punch into this online forum are next to his record cover.


Joe Strummer would find it very hard to roll in his grave mate. He was cremated.

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The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 16:14 - Jan 30 with 4869 viewsmonytowbray

The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 16:13 - Jan 30 by GlasgowBlue

Joe Strummer would find it very hard to roll in his grave mate. He was cremated.


Stir in his urn? Would that work?

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The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 16:30 - Jan 30 with 4852 viewsjeera

The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 08:43 - Jan 30 by DanTheMan

Their Telegram channel is rather telling.



Yeah, f*ck these guys.
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Typically, you don't see that kind of thing in ages, then 4 come along at once.

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The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 16:43 - Jan 30 with 4829 viewsDoctor_Earman

Do you know what 'fascism' actually is? Or are you one of these uneducated and shrill lefty types who shouts ''fascist'' at anyone and anything that slightly challenges your worldview?
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The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 16:45 - Jan 30 with 4822 viewsmonytowbray

The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 16:43 - Jan 30 by Doctor_Earman

Do you know what 'fascism' actually is? Or are you one of these uneducated and shrill lefty types who shouts ''fascist'' at anyone and anything that slightly challenges your worldview?


Sigh.

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The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 17:05 - Jan 30 with 4798 viewsDanTheMan

The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 14:33 - Jan 30 by itfcjoe

Would it not have been better to post a sticker of them being fascist in the op for calling them out as fascist rather than one about gender and relying on other posters to look deeper into them through social media platforms they haven’t heard of?


Probably yeah, but even after I posted a whole host of other stickers, the discussion still continued.

And it took all of a few minutes to find.

Was not just me either, Guthers found the same kind of information as well. Identarian is going to be technically the right term but if you asked someone on the street what that was I doubt they'd be able to tell you. The fact nobody has mentioned it at all in the thread is evidence enough.

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The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 17:08 - Jan 30 with 4792 viewsmonytowbray

The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 17:05 - Jan 30 by DanTheMan

Probably yeah, but even after I posted a whole host of other stickers, the discussion still continued.

And it took all of a few minutes to find.

Was not just me either, Guthers found the same kind of information as well. Identarian is going to be technically the right term but if you asked someone on the street what that was I doubt they'd be able to tell you. The fact nobody has mentioned it at all in the thread is evidence enough.


Yeah but that defies the rules of the "I've found a stick to beat Callis with no matter how small" game a couple of people in this thread enjoy playing.

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The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 17:43 - Jan 30 with 4768 viewsbazgammon

Have you thought of moving to North Korea comrade?

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The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 17:45 - Jan 30 with 4764 viewsbazgammon

The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 08:53 - Jan 30 by DanTheMan

Taken by itself, that one sticker isn't fascism, but this is definitely a far-right / alt-right group.


phew, that's comforting then because its ok for Callis to push his 'far left' 'anarchy' views then?

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The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 17:59 - Jan 30 with 4749 viewsmonytowbray

The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 17:45 - Jan 30 by bazgammon

phew, that's comforting then because its ok for Callis to push his 'far left' 'anarchy' views then?


Yes because I don’t hold believes that are, you know, racist and transphobic.

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The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 18:02 - Jan 30 with 4742 viewsDanTheMan

The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 17:45 - Jan 30 by bazgammon

phew, that's comforting then because its ok for Callis to push his 'far left' 'anarchy' views then?


If you've got a problem with Callis, I suggest taking it up with him instead of dragging me into it.

Although if you're honestly here trying to defend white nationalists, I don't really know what to tell you other than to fook off.

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The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 19:02 - Jan 30 with 4703 viewsBlueBadger

The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 15:12 - Jan 30 by lowhouseblue

that was in recognition of your cumulative work on this thread.

whoever posted the young ones clip has summed you up far better than i can.


Lowers old mate, DO stop downvoting people calling out bigots, even if you DO think They've somehow got their terminology slight incorrect

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The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 19:02 - Jan 30 with 4704 viewsTrequartista

See I agree with your sentiment here, you would have to be quite unpleasant to go around sticking up posters like that, but you ruin it by calling them fascists, as that just waters down real fascism. The Young Ones parodied that nearly 40 years ago.

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The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 19:09 - Jan 30 with 4681 viewslowhouseblue

The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 19:02 - Jan 30 by BlueBadger

Lowers old mate, DO stop downvoting people calling out bigots, even if you DO think They've somehow got their terminology slight incorrect


ok given him an up vote as well now. the up vote for the sentiment and the down vote for the crap he adds to it. happy now?

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The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 21:44 - Jan 30 with 4619 viewsm14_blue

Got to say this is a bizarre and rather depressing thread.

The sticker is an obvious attack, by a far right hate group, on a very vulnerable and often discriminated against minority.

And yet most of the reaction on here is hounding Callis for his dubious terminology. Yes, he’s a bit off with his language and doesn’t like to admit when he’s wrong but is scoring internet points against him really more important than the issue in the OP?
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The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 00:08 - Jan 31 with 4552 viewsDarth_Koont

The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 09:20 - Jan 30 by lowhouseblue

seriously you need to use a dictionary.

Definition of fascism:

1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition


2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control

having a view, even a mistaken view, on the meaning of gender doesn't come near to that definition.


Well, this is “severe social regimentation” so ticks that box.

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The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 09:33 - Jan 31 with 4483 viewsLeaky

Well for what its worth, I have just filled out a form online, under the heading Gender it had to boxes to tick male or female
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The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 10:39 - Jan 31 with 4463 viewsmonytowbray

The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 09:33 - Jan 31 by Leaky

Well for what its worth, I have just filled out a form online, under the heading Gender it had to boxes to tick male or female


Gender and sex aren’t the same thing. Once you accept that life gets so much easier.

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The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 13:31 - Jan 31 with 4411 viewsGlasgowBlue

The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 09:16 - Jan 30 by HARRY10

is it ?

as that strikes me more like some 'nutter' who is most likely a social inadequate

whereas any threat from fascism actually comes from extrememely wealthy backers funding those who politically seek to distort the truth, shut down oppositio voices and the judiciary seek to promote the idea that all the problems of a country can be placed at the door of an identifiable source ..... immigrants, different religions, unionised labour etc

thankfully nothing like that is happening here or in Europe is it ?


Another "nutter"?

https://antisemitism.uk/f-jews-i-will-kill-all-jews-shouts-woman-at-jewish-pedes

And another

https://antisemitism.uk/i-am-going-to-cut-your-jewish-head-off-screams-a-woman-a

and another

https://antisemitism.uk/hitler-was-the-best-he-was-right-we-hate-jews-eleven-yea

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The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 19:38 - Jan 31 with 4356 viewsEireannach_gorm

The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 09:26 - Jan 30 by GlasgowBlue

Some 'nutter' who is most likely a social inadequate?

Well this nutter seems to get out and about in our country.











Picture one and picture three are clearly the same "nutter".
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The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 21:25 - Jan 31 with 4333 viewsLeaky

The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 10:39 - Jan 31 by monytowbray

Gender and sex aren’t the same thing. Once you accept that life gets so much easier.


According to a lot paper work I fill in under the heading gender I have not seen male female or other
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The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 21:48 - Jan 31 with 4320 viewsmonytowbray

The fascists are finding their voice again. 38175 (local edition) on 21:25 - Jan 31 by Leaky

According to a lot paper work I fill in under the heading gender I have not seen male female or other


Sex is a scientific term in relation to your genitals. Gender is a social construct invented by humans to put people in a category.

That paperwork was also written by people who fell into the habit of using the word “gender” when they mean “sex”. And on top of that many forms are changing their wording/options in line with social norms as they progress. As is what should be happening.

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