| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way 11:42 - Mar 4 with 10804 views | SomethingBlue |
It's a delicate situation now, perhaps an existential one. People need to stay engaged, focused and angry — which I know isn't easy to do given the endless stream of kicks in the teeth. But articulated vocally and consistently — which hasn't ever happened yet — it will have an effect in time.
The best case scenario at this point is that Evans hands over to an owner who — even if not especially wealthy — is smart, engaged, understands how a club can maximise its every aspect in the 21st century, and gets the right football brains & voices in around him. I wonder what the Koeman/Bergkamp/Larsson/Kuyt consortium that's been looking around League One is up to at the moment ...
That is not definitely going to happen overnight, though, and the short-term ambition needs to be that ITFC's structure drags itself into the modern age. We will probably take £4-5m in transfers fees this summer and, honestly, if we see a small fraction of it reinvested in a dynamic chief executive (maybe just *a* chief executive for that matter ... !) and a couple of technical roles to take the heat off O'Neill it'll be money far better spent than on any players. We are not fit for purpose; we just lurch, and will continue to do so until the club has a structure both resilient and agile enough to maintain a vision & identity whoever the manager is and whatever is happening on the pitch.
All the fanbase can do is keep driving that message. Everyone probably feels helpless now but it's important to keep the noise up. Certain aspects will look after themselves. Lambert is a good guy, trust me on that, but it hasn't worked and he ought to be gone within the next seven days so that we can get things in place for next year. There is a bit room for optimism: KVY and Lankester have been out so long that nobody will take a punt on them at this stage; I'm not certain Championship clubs are quite convinced enough about Jackson while Norwood should be good for a better goal return if this absence sorts his issues out at last. We will lose players but still have a decent talent base to build on and at least make the play-offs in 2020-21 under the right management.
Overall, the next few games need to be used to hammer in the point, via any platform possible, that nothing about the way ITFC operates is good enough. It shouldn't be personal towards Evans the human being; his intentions are good, but he's just not been good enough in a way that goes way beyond how much cash he does or doesn't have. See it as an opportunity; inside the stadium it's only surfaced in dribs and drabs over the years, mainly because people understandably *want* to believe and there have been bones of various juiciness thrown. There is a way out of this but it will take time, energy and effort. It won't be easy but the alternative is unthinkable.
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| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 13:06 - Mar 4 with 2786 views | SomethingBlue |
| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 12:37 - Mar 4 by Ryorry |
"His intentions are good" ?
My impression has always been that he bought us to try & raise the profile of his other businesses and that he cares very little about us as a club or community. Yes he's not a crook & does show his face at games, but I've never understood how he got to be a "successful business owner".
For someone who's in the hospitality & PR business, to keep your shop front in a generally dirty, shabby & uncared for state, the catering & service poor, and to ignore what your most loyal return customers in increasing numbers are saying about staying away from the place - is strange.
Other than that, I totally agree with your OP, well said. |
We can debate that for sure. I'll level with you — what I'm really trying to do there is make sure the vocal, active representations that need to be made are channeled intelligently. | |
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| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 13:11 - Mar 4 with 2754 views | crossyitfc |
That's it. That's the post. |  | | |
| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 13:15 - Mar 4 with 2747 views | davblue |
You consistently put your points across in a well structured and sensible manner.
Top poster, I always look forward to one of your posts. |  | | |
| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 13:18 - Mar 4 with 2738 views | SomethingBlue |
| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 13:15 - Mar 4 by davblue |
You consistently put your points across in a well structured and sensible manner.
Top poster, I always look forward to one of your posts. |
Very kind (and flattering). I think we all have a role to play now, each of us in our small way. | |
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| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 13:23 - Mar 4 with 2712 views | Steve_M |
| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 12:41 - Mar 4 by bobbyramsey |
I thought O'Neill had been tasked with being the link between "the club" and Evans? If so, he's not doing a very good job. Nothing appears to be being relayed, unless Evans just chooses to ignore him....? |
The key issue is that Evans remains the decision maker, couple that with O'Neill doing about five jobs and his best efforts take more time than they should. He is having some impact but slowly.
That's a structural failing rather than one from O'Neill. |  |
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| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 13:25 - Mar 4 with 2708 views | davblue |
| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 13:18 - Mar 4 by SomethingBlue |
Very kind (and flattering). I think we all have a role to play now, each of us in our small way. |
Depends whether they the club want to take on board what we say or if they are going to stick their head in the sand.
They’ve listened before and said the right things but haven’t backed it up in anyway with actions or held accountable for the lack of action. | | | |
| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 13:47 - Mar 4 with 2678 views | SomethingBlue |
| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 13:25 - Mar 4 by davblue |
Depends whether they the club want to take on board what we say or if they are going to stick their head in the sand.
They’ve listened before and said the right things but haven’t backed it up in anyway with actions or held accountable for the lack of action. |
True but I'm not convinced people have been anywhere near vocal or constant enough, honestly.
Our wreck of a supporters' trust might take a lead. What has happened there is shameful. | |
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| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 14:30 - Mar 4 with 2637 views | itfcjoe |
| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 13:47 - Mar 4 by SomethingBlue |
True but I'm not convinced people have been anywhere near vocal or constant enough, honestly.
Our wreck of a supporters' trust might take a lead. What has happened there is shameful. |
They won't |  |
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| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 14:36 - Mar 4 with 2628 views | SomethingBlue |
| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 14:30 - Mar 4 by itfcjoe |
They won't |
I know we went over this a lot in 2017 but it's absolutely shameful. No problem if life gets in the way for people, that's totally fair — so stand aside and let others have a go. Absolutely shocking and inexplicable that they have done nothing since the "relaunch" that summer. Inactivity is as damaging as anything, if not more. | |
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| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 14:38 - Mar 4 with 2620 views | itfcjoe |
| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 14:36 - Mar 4 by SomethingBlue |
I know we went over this a lot in 2017 but it's absolutely shameful. No problem if life gets in the way for people, that's totally fair — so stand aside and let others have a go. Absolutely shocking and inexplicable that they have done nothing since the "relaunch" that summer. Inactivity is as damaging as anything, if not more. |
Yep, I'm embarrassed that my name is probably still on the website - there is no interest to do anything with it.
I don't understand that mentality | |
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| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 14:39 - Mar 4 with 2601 views | r2d2 |
Get Warnock in. You didnt need all that waffle. |  | | |
| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 15:20 - Mar 4 with 2582 views | JakeITFC |
| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 14:38 - Mar 4 by itfcjoe |
Yep, I'm embarrassed that my name is probably still on the website - there is no interest to do anything with it.
I don't understand that mentality |
Let’s try and sort it then. |  | | |
| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 15:24 - Mar 4 with 2578 views | itfcjoe |
| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 15:20 - Mar 4 by JakeITFC |
Let’s try and sort it then. |
I've tried to no avail, put a lot of time into doing so a couple of years back and won't be wasting any further time on it | |
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| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 15:27 - Mar 4 with 2555 views | BigManBlue |
Top, top post.
So reading between the lines.... Warnock in? |  |
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| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 15:35 - Mar 4 with 2537 views | monty_radio |
| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 12:46 - Mar 4 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I think its become a carbuncle.
Certainly dont think he'd regard it as a hobby. |
But, if you're right, and it's more central to his business thoughts then that 5-6 year long question remains: what is his endgame? As a sensible fellow I'm sure you don't swallow the five-point "we'll get better; and that will give us a springboard to being better still" guff that he wouldn't think of promoting in his larger empire. So, if it's not a hobby, what is it?
He clearly doesn't see it as a "carbuncle" as he even adds in his sponsorship upfront. | |
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| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 19:38 - Mar 4 with 2470 views | PhantomsBelievers |
| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 12:37 - Mar 4 by Ryorry |
"His intentions are good" ?
My impression has always been that he bought us to try & raise the profile of his other businesses and that he cares very little about us as a club or community. Yes he's not a crook & does show his face at games, but I've never understood how he got to be a "successful business owner".
For someone who's in the hospitality & PR business, to keep your shop front in a generally dirty, shabby & uncared for state, the catering & service poor, and to ignore what your most loyal return customers in increasing numbers are saying about staying away from the place - is strange.
Other than that, I totally agree with your OP, well said. |
"Yes he's not a crook"... so the international arrest warrant issued during the Rio 2016 Olympics was an oversight? | | | |
| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 19:44 - Mar 4 with 2460 views | stevieg |
More diplomatic than I would be but agree with you | | | |
| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 19:45 - Mar 4 with 2456 views | itfcjoe |
| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 19:38 - Mar 4 by PhantomsBelievers |
"Yes he's not a crook"... so the international arrest warrant issued during the Rio 2016 Olympics was an oversight? |
Was he ever arrested? He’s not exactly difficult to find is he | |
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| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 19:55 - Mar 4 with 2442 views | PhantomsBelievers |
| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 19:45 - Mar 4 by itfcjoe |
Was he ever arrested? He’s not exactly difficult to find is he |
Agreed  but there's no smoke without fire... and he was quite difficult to find in his first few years owning our club. | | | |
| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 19:59 - Mar 4 with 2436 views | Ryorry |
| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 19:38 - Mar 4 by PhantomsBelievers |
"Yes he's not a crook"... so the international arrest warrant issued during the Rio 2016 Olympics was an oversight? |
Funny you should mention that, because I was about to ask what had happened with that charge! - did it go ahead and if so, what was the outcome? |  |
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| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 20:21 - Mar 4 with 2424 views | Bluefish |
Your strange bias towards Shambert has been there from start to finish, it is admirable........clueless but admirable |  |
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| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 20:22 - Mar 4 with 2415 views | SpruceMoose |
| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 20:21 - Mar 4 by Bluefish |
Your strange bias towards Shambert has been there from start to finish, it is admirable........clueless but admirable |
Are all these upvoters of the original post clueless too Fishers?
ChiefXL
LankHenners
JakeITFC
Dyland
BrixtonBlue
Alexwaddell
Swansea_Blue
BrianTablet
Hullblue
Eireannach_gorm
Chambeau
Marshalls_Mullet
Steve_M
monty_radio
ellerblue
Ryorry
Superblue95
DanTheMan
Lightningboy
Darth_Koont
Pagan_Blue
JDB23
SouperJim
Ftnfwest
crossyitfc
OldTimer2
wrightsrightglove
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 20:32 - Mar 4 with 2394 views | Bluefish |
| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 20:22 - Mar 4 by SpruceMoose |
Are all these upvoters of the original post clueless too Fishers?
ChiefXL
LankHenners
JakeITFC
Dyland
BrixtonBlue
Alexwaddell
Swansea_Blue
BrianTablet
Hullblue
Eireannach_gorm
Chambeau
Marshalls_Mullet
Steve_M
monty_radio
ellerblue
Ryorry
Superblue95
DanTheMan
Lightningboy
Darth_Koont
Pagan_Blue
JDB23
SouperJim
Ftnfwest
crossyitfc
OldTimer2
wrightsrightglove
ernie
Dubtractor
J4ck22
Bent_double
26_Paz
Hciwspi
JackPITFC
BigManBlue
le2blue
brogansnose |
Everyone on this website is clueless except me, sitters and bloots. No one else was able to watch the dross from the entire Shambert era and make an independent assessment that it was awful.
As a point of order only massive whoppers look at up and down votes | |
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| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 20:34 - Mar 4 with 2390 views | SpruceMoose |
| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 20:32 - Mar 4 by Bluefish |
Everyone on this website is clueless except me, sitters and bloots. No one else was able to watch the dross from the entire Shambert era and make an independent assessment that it was awful.
As a point of order only massive whoppers look at up and down votes |
Two of those things are not like the other. Bloots is a AAA poster.
I do have a massive whopper though. Footers can vouch for that. Hung like a Pringles tube so I am. [Post edited 4 Mar 2020 20:35]
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| The way back from here will be long, but there is a way on 20:45 - Mar 4 with 2374 views | Oxford_Blue |
Sorry - what are you actually saying should be done? | | | |
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