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So, in effect, a lockdown under another name on 18:46 - Mar 16 by portmanking
Why? Who's to say Italy have gone about things the right way? Or China for that matter? If we can limit loss of life another way, why shouldn't we do that?
Learning from previous cases is the classic way we learn how to treat viruses (and pretty much anything). It’s widely accepted we have embarked on a high risk, unproven strategy. We don’t know we can limit loss of life our way, that’s the whole point: there’s no empirical evidence it’ll work, but there are real cases we can learn from (many countries are ahead of us on the curve).
We’re effectively guinea pigs for a psychological theory tested on things like changing people’s voting habits. It may be brilliant, it may be disastrous. It may make no difference one way or the other.
So, in effect, a lockdown under another name on 19:27 - Mar 16 by monytowbray
The science of backflips to trust our leaders.
We are considering the question of banning major public events such as sporting fixtures. The scientific advice as we’ve said over the last couple of weeks is that banning such events will have little effect on the spread. 4 days later, let’s scratch that, avoid going to pubs although we’re not telling them to shut.
So, in effect, a lockdown under another name on 19:43 - Mar 16 by WestStanderLaLaLa
We are considering the question of banning major public events such as sporting fixtures. The scientific advice as we’ve said over the last couple of weeks is that banning such events will have little effect on the spread. 4 days later, let’s scratch that, avoid going to pubs although we’re not telling them to shut.
Why can’t you trust the experts serving them on their payroll?
So, in effect, a lockdown under another name on 17:56 - Mar 16 by BrixtonBlue
Bit unfair to say they're "winging it." It's a new disease and they're reacting to how the situation changes. I'd have thought this approach was sensible if Labour had been doing it the same way.
Whilst putting in these measures earlier may have saved more lives, the hit to the economy would've been greater and the knock on effect might've been worse in the long run. Problem is, we just don't know.
Watching Boris and his chief sciences guys live just now, I think they're handling things as best as can be expected.
Quite. Whether they have called it right- we cant know (and they would not claim certainty).
But there is no reason to think that this is not part of a stepped and calculated plan of response.
The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett)
So, in effect, a lockdown under another name on 19:24 - Mar 16 by manchego
I'm not giving anyone any advice. But that bellend Boris is. Remember when herd immunity was a thing ? It's not any more.
Why are schools still open ? "all sorts of reasons" but he doesn't give one.
Isolate but we're not going to insist on it.
Work from home but schools open. Schools shut because no no at home to look after them except for all the people working from home.
Don't go out but no info on help for business owners.
We agree with WHO but doesn't explain the no testing policy.
Brave of you to trust that bellend.
He struggled today, no doubt about that imho. Even worse was the minister on c4news earlier, really unprepared and unable to answer a couple of simple pointed questions.
Having said that, he must be under incredible stress atm. Literally making decisions that could cost 1000s of lives if you get it wrong.
So, in effect, a lockdown under another name on 17:59 - Mar 16 by monytowbray
As of today they are. Perhaps they realised the NHS isn't a magical being that can summon resources from thin air.
Just last week the CSA said ''Things are going to get a lot more difficult. What we do next is going to have real-life consequences. There's potentially going to be significant disruption”.
Johnson, the CMO and the CSA all said the strategy would evolve as the pandemic progressed and the they would react accordingly.
But each time they up their response we get crap like "They're winging it! It's a shambles".
Some measures will be put in place sooner than predicted, others later. It's a fluid situation.
Whilst the experts are doing their very best to mange this situation and save as many lives as possible you are bitching, moaning and scoring political points on a football message board.
So, in effect, a lockdown under another name on 20:12 - Mar 16 by GlasgowBlue
Just last week the CSA said ''Things are going to get a lot more difficult. What we do next is going to have real-life consequences. There's potentially going to be significant disruption”.
Johnson, the CMO and the CSA all said the strategy would evolve as the pandemic progressed and the they would react accordingly.
But each time they up their response we get crap like "They're winging it! It's a shambles".
Some measures will be put in place sooner than predicted, others later. It's a fluid situation.
Whilst the experts are doing their very best to mange this situation and save as many lives as possible you are bitching, moaning and scoring political points on a football message board.
Who is scoring political points ?
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So, in effect, a lockdown under another name on 20:20 - Mar 16 with 1554 views
So, in effect, a lockdown under another name on 20:12 - Mar 16 by GlasgowBlue
Just last week the CSA said ''Things are going to get a lot more difficult. What we do next is going to have real-life consequences. There's potentially going to be significant disruption”.
Johnson, the CMO and the CSA all said the strategy would evolve as the pandemic progressed and the they would react accordingly.
But each time they up their response we get crap like "They're winging it! It's a shambles".
Some measures will be put in place sooner than predicted, others later. It's a fluid situation.
Whilst the experts are doing their very best to mange this situation and save as many lives as possible you are bitching, moaning and scoring political points on a football message board.
Why are they not doing exactly what countries ahead of us on this are doing.
They are giving us a blueprint but we don't appear to want to look at it.
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So, in effect, a lockdown under another name on 20:21 - Mar 16 with 1553 views
So, in effect, a lockdown under another name on 20:20 - Mar 16 by manchego
Why are they not doing exactly what countries ahead of us on this are doing.
They are giving us a blueprint but we don't appear to want to look at it.
They are giving a blueprint- which may or may not be the best.
If we are genuinely following the best scientific advice available- that is probably a sound decision. Not necessarily the best one (only time can confirm that), but nevertheless the best one available on the advice and information available. Its all about professional judgment which is inevitably not definitive nor perfect.
The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett)
So, in effect, a lockdown under another name on 20:04 - Mar 16 by GlasgowBlue
It applies to all members of the Household going into isolation rather than just the person who has the symptoms.
This was explained by the CSA.
I’d go with fudged rather than explained. Pretty remiss that they didn’t mention this 4 days ago.
“From tomorrow, if you have coronavirus symptoms, however mild — either a new continuous cough or a high temperature — then you should stay at home for at least 7 days to protect others and help slow the spread of the disease”
So, in effect, a lockdown under another name on 20:18 - Mar 16 by manchego
Who is scoring political points ?
Caliis for starters.
Edit. I'm out of here for the night. We have Callis trying to score political points out of this crisis and Banksy acting like a 6th form agitator.
Meanwhile in the real world I shall call in 15 members of staff tomorrow and lay them off before shutting my business down in the next few days until we are advised differently.
So, in effect, a lockdown under another name on 20:25 - Mar 16 by WestStanderLaLaLa
I’d go with fudged rather than explained. Pretty remiss that they didn’t mention this 4 days ago.
“From tomorrow, if you have coronavirus symptoms, however mild — either a new continuous cough or a high temperature — then you should stay at home for at least 7 days to protect others and help slow the spread of the disease”
There are at least two possibilities.
1- They got it wrong a few days back and said something unsicentific 2- The scientists suggested a stepped programme (as they have repeatedly suggested)
What is it that makes you assume the former?
The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett)
So, in effect, a lockdown under another name on 20:24 - Mar 16 by sparks
They are giving a blueprint- which may or may not be the best.
If we are genuinely following the best scientific advice available- that is probably a sound decision. Not necessarily the best one (only time can confirm that), but nevertheless the best one available on the advice and information available. Its all about professional judgment which is inevitably not definitive nor perfect.
Germany: 5813 COVID cases 13 dead
Norway 1356 COVID cases 3 dead.
UK 1391 COVID cases 35 dead.
Check out the measures France have announced today.
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So, in effect, a lockdown under another name on 20:36 - Mar 16 with 1502 views
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