| This is odd 18:03 - Apr 6 with 2180 views | GlasgowBlue |
Johnson is still running things from his hospital bed. Raab is deputising for him. But they haven't spoke with each other since Saturday.
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| This is odd on 18:05 - Apr 6 with 2146 views | WD19 |
Telepathy. |  | | |
| This is odd on 18:07 - Apr 6 with 2139 views | GlasgowBlue |
| This is odd on 18:05 - Apr 6 by WD19 |
Telepathy. |
Either Raab is being bypassed in the decision making process or Johnson is not doing as well as being made out. | |
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| This is odd on 18:08 - Apr 6 with 2119 views | Ace_High1 |
| This is odd on 18:05 - Apr 6 by WD19 |
Telepathy. |
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| This is odd on 18:13 - Apr 6 with 2095 views | homer_123 |
There is this insidious thing called email. |  |
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| This is odd on 18:16 - Apr 6 with 2082 views | Coastalblue |
Probably can't stand each other and avoid conversation at all costs, wouldn't you if you were either of them? |  |
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| This is odd on 18:20 - Apr 6 with 2070 views | Steve_M |
Dom has probably told both of them what to say. |  |
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| This is odd on 18:26 - Apr 6 with 2056 views | Ftnfwest |
Even more odd was why after two journalists asked the question Directly to him about the PMs health, With a sensible enough answer that Peston Then asked the same question (over the course of about 4 agonising minutes) |  | | |
| This is odd on 18:33 - Apr 6 with 2026 views | WD19 |
| This is odd on 18:26 - Apr 6 by Ftnfwest |
Even more odd was why after two journalists asked the question Directly to him about the PMs health, With a sensible enough answer that Peston Then asked the same question (over the course of about 4 agonising minutes) |
Peston makes Kuenssberg look competent. | | | |
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| This is odd on 18:33 - Apr 6 with 2030 views | GlasgowBlue |
| This is odd on 18:26 - Apr 6 by Ftnfwest |
Even more odd was why after two journalists asked the question Directly to him about the PMs health, With a sensible enough answer that Peston Then asked the same question (over the course of about 4 agonising minutes) |
Peston writes his questions in advance so even if a subject has been covered he sticks to his brief. He's been hopeless during this crisis. | |
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| This is odd on 18:36 - Apr 6 with 2011 views | Keno |
| This is odd on 18:33 - Apr 6 by GlasgowBlue |
Peston writes his questions in advance so even if a subject has been covered he sticks to his brief. He's been hopeless during this crisis. |
did you need to add the words "during this crisis"? |  |
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| This is odd on 18:41 - Apr 6 with 1993 views | itfcjoe |
He’s obviously really, really struggling - something needs to be sorted out |  |
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| This is odd on 18:41 - Apr 6 with 1991 views | WD19 |
| This is odd on 18:36 - Apr 6 by Keno |
did you need to add the words "during this crisis"? |
At least he hasn’t personally caused a run on a bank in this crisis......yet.
So in some respects he is having a relatively good crisis....by his standards. | | | |
| This is odd on 18:55 - Apr 6 with 1960 views | bluelagos |
Didnt watch earlier. R2 had a report that BJ had been given oxygen. Was that confirmed? |  |
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| This is odd on 10:18 - Apr 7 with 1735 views | BlueBadger |
| This is odd on 18:55 - Apr 6 by bluelagos |
Didnt watch earlier. R2 had a report that BJ had been given oxygen. Was that confirmed? |
It's pretty much standard treatment in covid-induced pneumonia, so highly likely. |  |
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| This is odd on 10:39 - Apr 7 with 1695 views | itfcjoe |
| This is odd on 10:18 - Apr 7 by BlueBadger |
It's pretty much standard treatment in covid-induced pneumonia, so highly likely. |
The Times seem to be only paper who have gone with any detail, apparently (and this will mean more to you than it does me) Johnson has had 5-6 litres of oxygen and hasn't been intubed, when normally for intensive care you'd have 15.
Which to them suggests they just wanted to get him in a position where he can be more heavily monitored, but maybe he wouldn't be in intensive care yet if he wasn't the PM.
Just as a personal opinion, I know some don't but I think it is right that the PM receives care at an earlier stage than Joe Public if deemed necessary by the Dr's | |
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| This is odd on 10:44 - Apr 7 with 1667 views | giant_stow |
Anyone else noticed oppertation 'put the public's mind at rest about physcho Rabb being in charge' this morning? |  |
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| This is odd on 10:45 - Apr 7 with 1671 views | BlueBadger |
| This is odd on 10:39 - Apr 7 by itfcjoe |
The Times seem to be only paper who have gone with any detail, apparently (and this will mean more to you than it does me) Johnson has had 5-6 litres of oxygen and hasn't been intubed, when normally for intensive care you'd have 15.
Which to them suggests they just wanted to get him in a position where he can be more heavily monitored, but maybe he wouldn't be in intensive care yet if he wasn't the PM.
Just as a personal opinion, I know some don't but I think it is right that the PM receives care at an earlier stage than Joe Public if deemed necessary by the Dr's |
Sounds just like 'close monitoring' to me(referrals for which tend to irk ITU consultants, particularly when they're busy, enormously).
Depending on what device you're using with it, 5-6L of O2 is roughly 40-45% O2(room is 21%) for reference.
That's not, in my trust, anywhere near ITU-level deterioration. I suspect the final sentence of your second paragraph is the key one is here, but I doubt it was an easy decision for whoever the admitting consultant was given their likely pressure on beds. [Post edited 7 Apr 2020 10:51]
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| This is odd on 12:02 - Apr 7 with 1571 views | ITFC_Forever |
| This is odd on 10:45 - Apr 7 by BlueBadger |
Sounds just like 'close monitoring' to me(referrals for which tend to irk ITU consultants, particularly when they're busy, enormously).
Depending on what device you're using with it, 5-6L of O2 is roughly 40-45% O2(room is 21%) for reference.
That's not, in my trust, anywhere near ITU-level deterioration. I suspect the final sentence of your second paragraph is the key one is here, but I doubt it was an easy decision for whoever the admitting consultant was given their likely pressure on beds. [Post edited 7 Apr 2020 10:51]
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Exactly what my paramedic wife said last night.... he's probably "in ICU as a precaution", but isn't as ill as most people would need to be to be admitted to ICU ward.
But as Joe says, as he is the Prime Minister of our country (whether you like it or not), he is always going to receive more care than the rest of us (whether you like it or not). |  |
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| This is odd on 12:30 - Apr 7 with 1488 views | BlueBadger |
| This is odd on 12:02 - Apr 7 by ITFC_Forever |
Exactly what my paramedic wife said last night.... he's probably "in ICU as a precaution", but isn't as ill as most people would need to be to be admitted to ICU ward.
But as Joe says, as he is the Prime Minister of our country (whether you like it or not), he is always going to receive more care than the rest of us (whether you like it or not). |
Admission criteria to ITU at [redacted] is, roughly speaking, '60% oxygen and starting to struggle'.
And in fairness, Johnson isn't the first person to receive preferential treatment from ITU consultants. They're quite often 'softer' with, for example, Trust employees. | |
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