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Is "following the science" 06:39 - Apr 18 with 7715 viewsbluelagos

an adequate defence to the charges / lost lives that will have occured due to our government's dithering?

We even had football authorities taking the tough decisions before our own politicians.

Or is it really acceptable that they wasted precious time when all around them the evidence was there for a need to act to reduce social contacts?

https://www.newstatesman.com/2020/04/eleven-days-may-have-tragically-cost-uk-fig
[Post edited 18 Apr 2020 6:51]

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Is on 19:15 - Apr 18 with 832 viewsStokieBlue

Is on 19:04 - Apr 18 by monytowbray

I know exactly how I’d react as this is the kind of drivel you post my way all the time and have done for years.

Why did I call you out in this thread? Probably because I’m bored of you and dislike you to be brutally honest. For the above reason mostly.

Do you a deal, if you can at least address my ventilator point you can ask me all the swerve-based questions you like. Until then, my advice is ignore me because it’s dull watching your switcheroo act when I can see through it.


"Why did I call you out in this thread? Probably because I’m bored of you and dislike you to be brutally honest. For the above reason mostly."

So you called me out to start an argument. I was minding my own business, leaving you alone and you admit to having a pop for no reason.

Glad we got there in the end.

Pretty hard to ignore you when, by your own admission, you call me out with unprovoked attacks.

SB
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Is on 19:27 - Apr 18 with 806 viewsMercian

There was no handbook on dealing with Covid 19, mistakes were always going to be made. The government however acted with no common sense. For me the tipping point of their early response was when they allowed the last day of The Cheltenham Festival to go ahead on 13 March after all other major sports had or were in the process of self postponement. I believe non League matches and smaller events still took place that weekend, these events being allowed were IMO idiotic. That was the date IMO when lockdown should have begun, not 10 days later. Precious time lost.
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Is on 19:29 - Apr 18 with 791 viewsmonytowbray

Is on 19:15 - Apr 18 by StokieBlue

"Why did I call you out in this thread? Probably because I’m bored of you and dislike you to be brutally honest. For the above reason mostly."

So you called me out to start an argument. I was minding my own business, leaving you alone and you admit to having a pop for no reason.

Glad we got there in the end.

Pretty hard to ignore you when, by your own admission, you call me out with unprovoked attacks.

SB


My favourite part is when you only address the part of the post you feel comfortable with.

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Is on 19:41 - Apr 18 with 764 viewsGlasgowBlue

Is on 19:29 - Apr 18 by monytowbray

My favourite part is when you only address the part of the post you feel comfortable with.

S U S S E D .


Callis. You are embarrassing yourself. You are lashing out at everyone who doesn't live in your black and white world.

Stokie is a top poster. Totally undeserving of the stick you are giving him.

Take a few days off mate. Let the board breathe again because you are suffocating it to the extent that I can't be arsed with it anymore.

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Is on 19:49 - Apr 18 with 752 viewsBloomBlue

Is on 19:29 - Apr 18 by monytowbray

My favourite part is when you only address the part of the post you feel comfortable with.

S U S S E D .


You're in full Corporal Jones tonight, you need to grow a pair
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Is on 19:56 - Apr 18 with 741 viewsNewcyBlue

Is on 08:32 - Apr 18 by BloomBlue

No it doesnt because you do not know when those people actually caught it.
If you torture the data long enough, it will confess to anything

If any mistake the Gov should have stop all immigration, travel in/out of the country from Nov last year that would have stopped it coming into the country.


November?! A complete closure of borders?! For how long would you have done this? How would Brits have gotten back into the U.K.?

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Is on 20:22 - Apr 18 with 714 viewssparks

Is on 19:56 - Apr 18 by NewcyBlue

November?! A complete closure of borders?! For how long would you have done this? How would Brits have gotten back into the U.K.?


It would also have been prior to knowledge of any issue!

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Is on 20:40 - Apr 18 with 691 viewsNewcyBlue

Is on 20:22 - Apr 18 by sparks

It would also have been prior to knowledge of any issue!


Sure, I just though Bloomer had a crystal ball or something!?

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Is on 20:56 - Apr 18 with 674 viewsBloomBlue

Is on 20:40 - Apr 18 by NewcyBlue

Sure, I just though Bloomer had a crystal ball or something!?


No Newcy and my point was more aimed at the poster I responded to who was going on about how the Gov could have reduced deaths here there and everywhere but to stop it spreading you would have to stop it getting here in the first place and the only way to do that you would have to cut the Country off completely. Then if it didn't get here nobody would die,

But no I wouldn't expect us to shut the Country, the comment was more tongue in cheek

Although I picked Nov because I truly believe it was in China then and if they had been open then the world would have known about it in Nov
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Is on 20:57 - Apr 18 with 674 viewsmonytowbray

Is on 19:41 - Apr 18 by GlasgowBlue

Callis. You are embarrassing yourself. You are lashing out at everyone who doesn't live in your black and white world.

Stokie is a top poster. Totally undeserving of the stick you are giving him.

Take a few days off mate. Let the board breathe again because you are suffocating it to the extent that I can't be arsed with it anymore.


If he was a genuine “top poster” he wouldn’t be desperately avoiding the fact he’s been rumbled.

I have no issue or embarrassment behind calling him out.

Now you, I think you’re a genuine bloke who has very different views to me and sometimes I think you can be a but of a tw@t (DW I know the feeling is mutual and I can own my part in that too as can you: D) but there is something deeper in the nuisance of SB.

Surely even you can read that thread from the other day and see you were one of a handful of posters who started talking about ventilators? I get it’s a nothing point and I’m going on about it, and it should be, so why he has to swerve something so small and stick to his fence sitting act and pretend it didn’t happen is weird. And from my personal experience of people there’s a deeper reason for that which I ain’t falling for.
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Is on 21:13 - Apr 18 with 657 viewsNewcyBlue

Is on 20:56 - Apr 18 by BloomBlue

No Newcy and my point was more aimed at the poster I responded to who was going on about how the Gov could have reduced deaths here there and everywhere but to stop it spreading you would have to stop it getting here in the first place and the only way to do that you would have to cut the Country off completely. Then if it didn't get here nobody would die,

But no I wouldn't expect us to shut the Country, the comment was more tongue in cheek

Although I picked Nov because I truly believe it was in China then and if they had been open then the world would have known about it in Nov


Ah I see.

Have you seen how Greece has dealt with it?

https://bylinetimes.com/2020/04/16/greece-teaches-the-uk-a-lesson-on-how-to-resp

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Is on 21:13 - Apr 18 with 658 viewsStokieBlue

Is on 20:57 - Apr 18 by monytowbray

If he was a genuine “top poster” he wouldn’t be desperately avoiding the fact he’s been rumbled.

I have no issue or embarrassment behind calling him out.

Now you, I think you’re a genuine bloke who has very different views to me and sometimes I think you can be a but of a tw@t (DW I know the feeling is mutual and I can own my part in that too as can you: D) but there is something deeper in the nuisance of SB.

Surely even you can read that thread from the other day and see you were one of a handful of posters who started talking about ventilators? I get it’s a nothing point and I’m going on about it, and it should be, so why he has to swerve something so small and stick to his fence sitting act and pretend it didn’t happen is weird. And from my personal experience of people there’s a deeper reason for that which I ain’t falling for.
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You are still casting aspersions on my character and divining some deep meaning that I am in some way trying to upset you.

The truth is callis, you are only this important in your own mind. I don't spend my time thinking up ways to annoy you.

Now I have asked politely three times. Stop besmirching my character and stop calling me out. You want me to ignore you but you continually post things about me which can't be allowed to pass.

Frankly, I've had enough of it.

SB
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Is on 21:27 - Apr 18 with 637 viewsmonytowbray

Is on 21:13 - Apr 18 by StokieBlue

You are still casting aspersions on my character and divining some deep meaning that I am in some way trying to upset you.

The truth is callis, you are only this important in your own mind. I don't spend my time thinking up ways to annoy you.

Now I have asked politely three times. Stop besmirching my character and stop calling me out. You want me to ignore you but you continually post things about me which can't be allowed to pass.

Frankly, I've had enough of it.

SB


I’ve given you a fairly reasonable offer to own your sh1t or ignore me.

If you continue to not own it and commit to the biggest SWERVE I’ve ever seen from a TWTD poster, I’m going to keep calling you up on it when you decide it’s time to have a pop at me and accuse me of ignoring stuff when it doesn’t fit into my world view as you usually do.

I had enough of you over a year ago. But keep pretending to be the innocent person and ignoring my request. I know you have a few people fooled but this one is in writing for all to see.

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Is on 21:33 - Apr 18 with 628 viewsgiant_stow

Is on 21:27 - Apr 18 by monytowbray

I’ve given you a fairly reasonable offer to own your sh1t or ignore me.

If you continue to not own it and commit to the biggest SWERVE I’ve ever seen from a TWTD poster, I’m going to keep calling you up on it when you decide it’s time to have a pop at me and accuse me of ignoring stuff when it doesn’t fit into my world view as you usually do.

I had enough of you over a year ago. But keep pretending to be the innocent person and ignoring my request. I know you have a few people fooled but this one is in writing for all to see.


This is getting pretty unpleasant now you know? Im sure Stokie is ik, but you're attacking and attacking like a dog with a bone!

Has anyone ever looked at their own postings for last day or so? Oh my... so sorry. Was Ullaa
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Is on 21:34 - Apr 18 with 623 viewsmonytowbray

Is on 21:33 - Apr 18 by giant_stow

This is getting pretty unpleasant now you know? Im sure Stokie is ik, but you're attacking and attacking like a dog with a bone!


He does it all the time, just in longer paragraphs whilst being less up front.

He’s dragging it out for himself by ignoring my request. And we both know why.

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Is on 21:36 - Apr 18 with 618 viewsmidastouch

Is on 21:33 - Apr 18 by giant_stow

This is getting pretty unpleasant now you know? Im sure Stokie is ik, but you're attacking and attacking like a dog with a bone!



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Is on 21:38 - Apr 18 with 610 viewsmonytowbray

Is on 21:36 - Apr 18 by midastouch



Ha! Well timed.

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Is on 21:39 - Apr 18 with 604 viewsmidastouch

Is on 21:38 - Apr 18 by monytowbray

Ha! Well timed.


Sorry, I couldn't resist it! :-)

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Is on 21:43 - Apr 18 with 594 viewsNewcyBlue

Is on 21:36 - Apr 18 by midastouch



Why have I just pictured Callis in his taco suit asking “do you want some taco sauce?”

That’s properly disturbing stuff....

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Is on 21:45 - Apr 18 with 588 viewsmonytowbray

Is on 21:43 - Apr 18 by NewcyBlue

Why have I just pictured Callis in his taco suit asking “do you want some taco sauce?”

That’s properly disturbing stuff....


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Is on 22:49 - Apr 18 with 565 viewsRyorry

Is on 21:13 - Apr 18 by StokieBlue

You are still casting aspersions on my character and divining some deep meaning that I am in some way trying to upset you.

The truth is callis, you are only this important in your own mind. I don't spend my time thinking up ways to annoy you.

Now I have asked politely three times. Stop besmirching my character and stop calling me out. You want me to ignore you but you continually post things about me which can't be allowed to pass.

Frankly, I've had enough of it.

SB


You've probably forgotten, but you yourself made some derogatory and entirely false comments about me last Sept when I asked what your science qualifications were, following a comment by another poster that you were a "chemistry expert" (which comment I eventually realised was a wind up!). We've since moved on I'm pleased to say :)

I write this only because most of the time when there is a spat going on between two individuals, unless there is overt name-calling and clear abuse (such as might be written by the more obvious trolls on the forum), the really hurtful comments are the more subtle ones designed to get under the skin of the recipient, which actually go completely unnoticed by the vast majority of other forum members. Only the two people concerned tend to *really* know what's going on.

I suppose it's refreshingly "normal" in these abnormal times for a personal shindig to be going on here! but it also seems such a waste of energy in the circumstances. I get that you both feel you've been dissed, but maybe take one end of the olive branch each? Just a thought.

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Is on 23:15 - Apr 18 with 545 viewsmonytowbray

Is on 22:49 - Apr 18 by Ryorry

You've probably forgotten, but you yourself made some derogatory and entirely false comments about me last Sept when I asked what your science qualifications were, following a comment by another poster that you were a "chemistry expert" (which comment I eventually realised was a wind up!). We've since moved on I'm pleased to say :)

I write this only because most of the time when there is a spat going on between two individuals, unless there is overt name-calling and clear abuse (such as might be written by the more obvious trolls on the forum), the really hurtful comments are the more subtle ones designed to get under the skin of the recipient, which actually go completely unnoticed by the vast majority of other forum members. Only the two people concerned tend to *really* know what's going on.

I suppose it's refreshingly "normal" in these abnormal times for a personal shindig to be going on here! but it also seems such a waste of energy in the circumstances. I get that you both feel you've been dissed, but maybe take one end of the olive branch each? Just a thought.


I’m glad you get it.

The most abusive stuff on here isn’t the blatant stuff.

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Is on 23:25 - Apr 18 with 540 viewsStokieBlue

Is on 22:49 - Apr 18 by Ryorry

You've probably forgotten, but you yourself made some derogatory and entirely false comments about me last Sept when I asked what your science qualifications were, following a comment by another poster that you were a "chemistry expert" (which comment I eventually realised was a wind up!). We've since moved on I'm pleased to say :)

I write this only because most of the time when there is a spat going on between two individuals, unless there is overt name-calling and clear abuse (such as might be written by the more obvious trolls on the forum), the really hurtful comments are the more subtle ones designed to get under the skin of the recipient, which actually go completely unnoticed by the vast majority of other forum members. Only the two people concerned tend to *really* know what's going on.

I suppose it's refreshingly "normal" in these abnormal times for a personal shindig to be going on here! but it also seems such a waste of energy in the circumstances. I get that you both feel you've been dissed, but maybe take one end of the olive branch each? Just a thought.


I've not forgotten and it wasn't abusive. You reported it and I still have the message from admin saying they didn't feel it was abusive and it was only removed to stop the issue escalating.

Multiple other posters in the thread said it wasn't abusive.

I am glad we are fine now and have moved on. I have absolutely nothing against you.

Callis literally called me out today for no reason, I was attempting to ignore him. He seems to have some weird obsession.

SB
[Post edited 18 Apr 2020 23:27]
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Is on 23:27 - Apr 18 with 536 viewsStokieBlue

Is on 23:15 - Apr 18 by monytowbray

I’m glad you get it.

The most abusive stuff on here isn’t the blatant stuff.


I love how, without even having any of the facts or reading the thread you jump on to agree on something against me.

Something which was deemed not to be abusive by admin and multiple posters. Something you have literally no idea about.

I guess it fits with your general style of not worrying about accuracy or evidence as long as you get to make your point.

Stop posting about me - it's becoming weird and I am getting worried about your obsessive nature.

SB
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Is on 23:28 - Apr 18 with 535 viewsmonytowbray

Is on 23:25 - Apr 18 by StokieBlue

I've not forgotten and it wasn't abusive. You reported it and I still have the message from admin saying they didn't feel it was abusive and it was only removed to stop the issue escalating.

Multiple other posters in the thread said it wasn't abusive.

I am glad we are fine now and have moved on. I have absolutely nothing against you.

Callis literally called me out today for no reason, I was attempting to ignore him. He seems to have some weird obsession.

SB
[Post edited 18 Apr 2020 23:27]


You simply don’t get it, do you?

If I’m wrong on my opinion of you then a self-awareness course would certainly be of benefit.

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