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4,300 new cases a day and 1,100 deaths in the last 7 days on 23:36 - Jun 23 by PhilTWTD
Regardless of the context which subsequently emerged re EG's circumstances, really no need for the surly manner of the response. Getting slightly fed up with the constant sniping and snappiness on here at the moment.
Hands up on this one. Was wrong. Apologise.
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4,300 new cases a day and 1,100 deaths in the last 7 days on 23:40 - Jun 23 with 2215 views
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country."
4,300 new cases a day and 1,100 deaths in the last 7 days on 23:40 - Jun 23 by SpruceMoose
I got a little bit excited at the thought of getting some semblance of normality back, coupled with a few beers inside me I lashed out at somebody who it seemed was pouring cold water on that. Didn’t engage brain before typing. I’ll apologise again.
The Paz Man
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4,300 new cases a day and 1,100 deaths in the last 7 days on 23:49 - Jun 23 with 2191 views
4,300 new cases a day and 1,100 deaths in the last 7 days on 23:48 - Jun 23 by 26_Paz
I got a little bit excited at the thought of getting some semblance of normality back, coupled with a few beers inside me I lashed out at somebody who it seemed was pouring cold water on that. Didn’t engage brain before typing. I’ll apologise again.
Cool story. Night Paz.
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country."
The 4,300 cases a day is an estimate from the University of Cambridge; it's based on a model and it'd be interesting to see how may they say other countries have in way of comparison. Certainly it's much lower than the rest.
I do feel we're lifting too much in one go but the two metre rule has always seemed slightly arbitrary when looking at the advise from the WHO.
4,300 new cases a day and 1,100 deaths in the last 7 days on 23:57 - Jun 23 by pointofblue
The 4,300 cases a day is an estimate from the University of Cambridge; it's based on a model and it'd be interesting to see how may they say other countries have in way of comparison. Certainly it's much lower than the rest.
I do feel we're lifting too much in one go but the two metre rule has always seemed slightly arbitrary when looking at the advise from the WHO.
It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. We entered Phase 2 over here this week, which means outdoor dining, offices, playgrounds, in-store retail, hair salons and barbershops, real estate services, houses of worship all opened to various degrees.
It may as well have been 'Phase Rona Is Over' though judging by what I saw on my way to the supermarket today. I really think as soon as you give some people an inch, they'll take a mile.
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country."
4,300 new cases a day and 1,100 deaths in the last 7 days on 23:14 - Jun 23 by blueblueburleymcgrew
Sorry couldn’t open the article originally.
The 4300 is just an estimate of the number of cases currently in the country it’s not new cases as you suggest - that’S 874 according to the official figure.
The second paragraph of the article reads
'They raised concerns over the halving of the 2-metre physical distancing rule at the same time as reopening venues, saying the country was currently experiencing up to 4,300 Covid-19 infections a day [my emphasis] and had no effective digital track-and-trace system, while highlighting research that showed transmission of the virus was more likely to happen indoors.'
Now, whilst I don't have any expertise myself in epidemiology and statistical modelling, I'm happy to respect the calculations of those who do, i.e. the experts in the article. Saying what they do is 'estimate' - as though they're cowboy builders - is a travesty.
4,300 new cases a day and 1,100 deaths in the last 7 days on 22:29 - Jun 23 by blueblueburleymcgrew
Just out of interest where did you get that 4,300 number from?
I thought today’s number was 874?
Think your number is those tested as positive. A fair few people will contract the virus without a test (some will be without symptoms). The figures in the article will be estimates from the mathematical models used by the scientists.
They go on to say, in the linked report, that they expect daily deaths to be between 60- 90 by the beginning of July
"Updated findings
We estimate that across England there are 4,300 (2,400—7,300, 95% credible interval) new infections arising each day We predict that the number of deaths each day is likely to fall to between 60 and 90 by the end of the first week of July. We estimate that it is very likely that Rt
is below 1 in each region of England. The South West has the highest probability (30%) that Rt is above 1 and a central estimate for Rt of 0.94. However, the numbers of new infections occurring in this region on a daily basis is relatively low. The data used are only weakly informative on Rt over the last two weeks. Therefore, the now-cast for current incidence and the forecast of deaths are quite uncertain."
And that is when the measures are being relaxed.
But anyway it is a balance of risks,lockdown is not risk free in itself, aside from the economic consequences there are real physical and mental consequences of it. The scientists are concerned with the epidemiological side of it and will provide good assessments of that risk, the politicians have to balance that with all the other risks.
From my point of view those at risk need to be protected, but those who aren't need to get back on with things.
4,300 new cases a day and 1,100 deaths in the last 7 days on 08:22 - Jun 24 by factual_blue
The second paragraph of the article reads
'They raised concerns over the halving of the 2-metre physical distancing rule at the same time as reopening venues, saying the country was currently experiencing up to 4,300 Covid-19 infections a day [my emphasis] and had no effective digital track-and-trace system, while highlighting research that showed transmission of the virus was more likely to happen indoors.'
Now, whilst I don't have any expertise myself in epidemiology and statistical modelling, I'm happy to respect the calculations of those who do, i.e. the experts in the article. Saying what they do is 'estimate' - as though they're cowboy builders - is a travesty.
Don’t be such a drama queen - “travesty”.
I’m just pointing out the difference is that one is an estimate the other the official figure. The article carries both so is inconsistent. The true position is probably somewhere between the two. The headline in the post suggests the 4,300 number is confirmed , it isn’t.
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4,300 new cases a day and 1,100 deaths in the last 7 days on 09:02 - Jun 24 with 1933 views
4,300 new cases a day and 1,100 deaths in the last 7 days on 08:41 - Jun 24 by bluelagos
Think your number is those tested as positive. A fair few people will contract the virus without a test (some will be without symptoms). The figures in the article will be estimates from the mathematical models used by the scientists.
Thanks that’s a fair point.
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4,300 new cases a day and 1,100 deaths in the last 7 days on 09:04 - Jun 24 with 1928 views
4,300 new cases a day and 1,100 deaths in the last 7 days on 23:48 - Jun 23 by 26_Paz
I got a little bit excited at the thought of getting some semblance of normality back, coupled with a few beers inside me I lashed out at somebody who it seemed was pouring cold water on that. Didn’t engage brain before typing. I’ll apologise again.
Look, you've just got a different political opinion and they can't handle it, they won't tolerate any dissent from their woke commie lefty views.
The worst thing about it all is that the people who claim they are the most tolerant, are the ones who are most intolerant of different views, the bl**dy hypocrites.
etc etc etc.
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4,300 new cases a day and 1,100 deaths in the last 7 days on 09:07 - Jun 24 with 1918 views
4,300 new cases a day and 1,100 deaths in the last 7 days on 08:55 - Jun 24 by blueblueburleymcgrew
Don’t be such a drama queen - “travesty”.
I’m just pointing out the difference is that one is an estimate the other the official figure. The article carries both so is inconsistent. The true position is probably somewhere between the two. The headline in the post suggests the 4,300 number is confirmed , it isn’t.
The 4,300 will be the best estimate given available data. As such the probability that the actual figure is over 4,300 will be 50% and the probability of it being below 4,300 will be 50%.
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As I often say, the truth is always somewhere in the middle..... on 09:13 - Jun 24 with 1902 views
4,300 new cases a day and 1,100 deaths in the last 7 days on 08:55 - Jun 24 by blueblueburleymcgrew
Don’t be such a drama queen - “travesty”.
I’m just pointing out the difference is that one is an estimate the other the official figure. The article carries both so is inconsistent. The true position is probably somewhere between the two. The headline in the post suggests the 4,300 number is confirmed , it isn’t.
4,300 new cases a day and 1,100 deaths in the last 7 days on 23:57 - Jun 23 by pointofblue
The 4,300 cases a day is an estimate from the University of Cambridge; it's based on a model and it'd be interesting to see how may they say other countries have in way of comparison. Certainly it's much lower than the rest.
I do feel we're lifting too much in one go but the two metre rule has always seemed slightly arbitrary when looking at the advise from the WHO.
Altho some of the early (and much quoted) WHO advice on distancing was based on a report upon which doubt has now been shed in the light of newer evidence. I've heard it said that for proper safety, five metres is about right.
But a lot of it is other factors, too, such as whether outdoors (much lower risk) or in an enclosed space and how long you spend in the proximity of a virus carrier.
4,300 new cases a day and 1,100 deaths in the last 7 days on 11:55 - Jun 24 by Guthrum
Altho some of the early (and much quoted) WHO advice on distancing was based on a report upon which doubt has now been shed in the light of newer evidence. I've heard it said that for proper safety, five metres is about right.
But a lot of it is other factors, too, such as whether outdoors (much lower risk) or in an enclosed space and how long you spend in the proximity of a virus carrier.
This is a useful resource regarding droplet exposure to the virus.
Why are you always....oh whoa there, i happened to read the thread this time.
I wish a speedy recovery to your wife and I retract all previous moans i've had about what i perceived as your negativity, but are actually genuine concerns.
Well not really, it says..... on 15:20 - Jun 24 by Bloots
….3,600 and it's from a week ago.
As Geoff pointed out,
order of magnitude â–º n. An estimate of size or magnitude expressed as a power of ten. n. A range of values between a designated lower value and an upper value ten times as large. n. The class of scale or magnitude of any amount, where each class contains values of a fixed ratio (most often 10) to the class preceding it.
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