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You mean to say that all those "professionals" betting on the Hawaiian table tennis and Belarusian football might not have the insight that they think they do?
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"Lockdown a disaster for problem gamblers" on 12:15 - Jun 29 with 2655 views
"Lockdown a disaster for problem gamblers" on 12:15 - Jun 29 by clive_baker
Wonder how our resident pro gambler J2 is getting on? Not seen him around here for a while.
I think last time I spoke to him he was one of the experts betting on obscure sporting events.
I sometimes make a couple of bets over the course of a season and usually have a bit of a punt when there's a major tournament on, but stories like this and others mean that I can't help but feel it'd be a lot better for society as a whole if we did away with online betting.
Fixed odds machines get a lot of attention, but in reality the fact that anyone can pick up their phone and lose their months pay/life savings/payday loan at a few clicks of a button really is dangerous. More regulation and safeguards are needed if online betting is going to carry on in the way it has been going for the last decade or so.
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"Lockdown a disaster for problem gamblers" on 12:35 - Jun 29 with 2593 views
"Lockdown a disaster for problem gamblers" on 12:27 - Jun 29 by Marshalls_Mullet
A ban on advertising in sports needs to be implemented, like tobacco and alcohol.
The advertising at matches, particularly the ads moving around pitch perimeters, should be first to go - there's no avoiding constantly noticing them, & many kids present of course.
"Lockdown a disaster for problem gamblers" on 12:27 - Jun 29 by Marshalls_Mullet
A ban on advertising in sports needs to be implemented, like tobacco and alcohol.
I am ordinarily loathe to ban anything - but am with you this. Gambling it seems to me does an awful lot more harm than good and the normalisation of gambling does little positive imho.
So yeah, I'd severely curtail the advertising and probably look to add more tax that could be directed at helping problem gamblers.
"Lockdown a disaster for problem gamblers" on 12:27 - Jun 29 by Marshalls_Mullet
A ban on advertising in sports needs to be implemented, like tobacco and alcohol.
What is most egregious is hte way in which TS include betting and related promotions as an integral part of coverage - as if it were just as much part of the process as getting the half time scores.
The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett)
I think last time I spoke to him he was one of the experts betting on obscure sporting events.
I sometimes make a couple of bets over the course of a season and usually have a bit of a punt when there's a major tournament on, but stories like this and others mean that I can't help but feel it'd be a lot better for society as a whole if we did away with online betting.
Fixed odds machines get a lot of attention, but in reality the fact that anyone can pick up their phone and lose their months pay/life savings/payday loan at a few clicks of a button really is dangerous. More regulation and safeguards are needed if online betting is going to carry on in the way it has been going for the last decade or so.
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Agree. It's the ease at which it can be done that makes it so dangerous. They're just numbers on a page, rather than putting your card in a machine or withdrawing the cash from the wall where it might feel more real and be the difference between walking away or not.
I tend to only have a bet if I'm at a game, and even that's not every time. £5 on a Chambers FGS or something to add a little interest until we inevitably concede.
I think last time I spoke to him he was one of the experts betting on obscure sporting events.
I sometimes make a couple of bets over the course of a season and usually have a bit of a punt when there's a major tournament on, but stories like this and others mean that I can't help but feel it'd be a lot better for society as a whole if we did away with online betting.
Fixed odds machines get a lot of attention, but in reality the fact that anyone can pick up their phone and lose their months pay/life savings/payday loan at a few clicks of a button really is dangerous. More regulation and safeguards are needed if online betting is going to carry on in the way it has been going for the last decade or so.
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I've said before and I'' say again - betting is the only vice that is made more convenient all the time.
Even if you were in a bookies, you would get better odds placing it on your phone than actually in shop.
Whereas if you want a beer brought to you on the sofa you won't get it at a discount delivered.
Everyone knows online gambling companies are morally wrong, if you win a few best your account will be blocked or limited.
"Lockdown a disaster for problem gamblers" on 12:45 - Jun 29 by sparks
What is most egregious is hte way in which TS include betting and related promotions as an integral part of coverage - as if it were just as much part of the process as getting the half time scores.
Youngsters in the pub get their phones out and bet at half time, happily chatting about their cash out options all through the second half. It seems they are as interested in the betting as much as the football. Has become so normalised it's scary.
Agree. It's the ease at which it can be done that makes it so dangerous. They're just numbers on a page, rather than putting your card in a machine or withdrawing the cash from the wall where it might feel more real and be the difference between walking away or not.
I tend to only have a bet if I'm at a game, and even that's not every time. £5 on a Chambers FGS or something to add a little interest until we inevitably concede.
I can't remember who it was against but I made my first ever bet aged just 17 in a kiosk that was in the concourse of an away ground. I fancied Richard Naylor to get a goal and he duly obliged, it paid for my day out and I felt like an absolute bloody king.
I chanced my arm because the kiosk was there, if when I went to a game next there was a similar kiosk you can bet that I'd have done it again, thankfully there was not, but with phones the kiosk is always open.
I can't remember who it was against but I made my first ever bet aged just 17 in a kiosk that was in the concourse of an away ground. I fancied Richard Naylor to get a goal and he duly obliged, it paid for my day out and I felt like an absolute bloody king.
I chanced my arm because the kiosk was there, if when I went to a game next there was a similar kiosk you can bet that I'd have done it again, thankfully there was not, but with phones the kiosk is always open.
"with phones the kiosk is always open". Libero, 2020.
"Lockdown a disaster for problem gamblers" on 12:52 - Jun 29 by bluelagos
Youngsters in the pub get their phones out and bet at half time, happily chatting about their cash out options all through the second half. It seems they are as interested in the betting as much as the football. Has become so normalised it's scary.
Fella in my local brings his two kids of 10 and 12 in to watch football of a Sunday afternoon. And they have a 'fiver each' on the fame(his account obviously, but the kids tell him when they want to cash out, etc.
Terrifying.
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I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
Fella in my local brings his two kids of 10 and 12 in to watch football of a Sunday afternoon. And they have a 'fiver each' on the fame(his account obviously, but the kids tell him when they want to cash out, etc.
Terrifying.
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Jesus wept, cannot get my head around a sensible adult enabling a child to gamble.
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"Lockdown a disaster for problem gamblers" on 20:22 - Jun 29 with 2014 views
"Lockdown a disaster for problem gamblers" on 12:37 - Jun 29 by Libero
"When the fun stops, stop"
I hadn't seen that before and he makes some good points but, being pedantic, football did not stop a war - it only paused it. And football did once, ostensibly, start a war:
There was an interesting speculation from racehorse trainer Martin Johnston in this week's 'Desert Island Discs' comparing people watching football mainly because of its sporting qualities and watching horse racing for the betting. Sounded like true frustration on his part that almost nobody got the skill involved in horse racing.
I can't remember who it was against but I made my first ever bet aged just 17 in a kiosk that was in the concourse of an away ground. I fancied Richard Naylor to get a goal and he duly obliged, it paid for my day out and I felt like an absolute bloody king.
I chanced my arm because the kiosk was there, if when I went to a game next there was a similar kiosk you can bet that I'd have done it again, thankfully there was not, but with phones the kiosk is always open.
Had a similar experience at Newmarket - won enough on the Guineas to pay for my day out, plus get drinks for everyone when we got back to Sudbury. Buss was amazing but terrifying - I can see how people get hooked on that buzz and decided not to go again, because I'd have been sore tempted to chase that buzz forever.
I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
"Lockdown a disaster for problem gamblers" on 12:35 - Jun 29 by Ryorry
The advertising at matches, particularly the ads moving around pitch perimeters, should be first to go - there's no avoiding constantly noticing them, & many kids present of course.
Absolutely agree. That and Ray fekkin Winstone imploring everyone to 'Have a bosh on that, soppy bollo*ks' during half time in every live football match on Virgin & Sky.
I think last time I spoke to him he was one of the experts betting on obscure sporting events.
I sometimes make a couple of bets over the course of a season and usually have a bit of a punt when there's a major tournament on, but stories like this and others mean that I can't help but feel it'd be a lot better for society as a whole if we did away with online betting.
Fixed odds machines get a lot of attention, but in reality the fact that anyone can pick up their phone and lose their months pay/life savings/payday loan at a few clicks of a button really is dangerous. More regulation and safeguards are needed if online betting is going to carry on in the way it has been going for the last decade or so.
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I hope he is well, I thought I saw him around the other day.
I do make some bets on football but it's pretty rare. I did use published odds to write a genetic algorithm to try and see where there bookies might be making mistakes in their odds based on previous match stats about the team but low and behold they were pretty accurate.
Who would have thought that....
Online better is insidious. With historical betting you at least had to make the journey to the shop with your internal debate ongoing all the way whether you should bet but with online betting it's instant, like many things in the world today. I don't think it would be missed but there are obviously people who will disagree heavily with that statement even on this board,
SB
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"Lockdown a disaster for problem gamblers" on 08:39 - Jun 30 with 1829 views
One reason for not buying a Town shirt Bet Vegas. Also can some one explain why advertising for online casino's are rightly not allowed before the 9 o'clock watershed. However online bingo can.
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"Lockdown a disaster for problem gamblers" on 09:37 - Jun 30 with 1778 views
"Lockdown a disaster for problem gamblers" on 08:39 - Jun 30 by Leaky
One reason for not buying a Town shirt Bet Vegas. Also can some one explain why advertising for online casino's are rightly not allowed before the 9 o'clock watershed. However online bingo can.
Those online bingo typo ads are absolutely painful. Making out that online gambling is somehow a kind of virtuous social activity that makes you have fun and feel great with your mates...
The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett)
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