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This will upset some.... 10:57 - Jul 16 with 19039 viewsHerbivore

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Clearly the right decision for me though, and if she has committed crimes she should be tried under UK law when she returns.

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This will upset some.... on 21:07 - Jul 16 with 1125 viewsjeera

This will upset some.... on 21:04 - Jul 16 by LittleBoyBlue

This is the main issue in point. She revoked her British national status herself in an interview when she was in ISIS, which is why when she was discovered in the refugee camp last year, after she was presumed dead, that UK revoked her status as well. That is what her lawyers are arguing against, she hasn't been made nationless yet, as she still has the option at any point in her life of becoming a Bangladeshi citizen.
There are plenty of other non violent people, and kids, that are truly nationless that deserve the chance more than she does, why don't the lawyers and solicitors choose to help them, oh right I forgot, unknown people wouldn't earn them any money or fame to help their personal careers, so aren't worthy of helping.
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All of this has been addressed in detail time and again and to some extent on this thread too.

You either haven't bothered to read a word or you're just joining your mate there in trying to troll.

You have not said a single thing that hasn't been covered a zillion times.

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This will upset some.... on 21:07 - Jul 16 with 1117 viewsSpruceMoose

This will upset some.... on 21:04 - Jul 16 by LittleBoyBlue

This is the main issue in point. She revoked her British national status herself in an interview when she was in ISIS, which is why when she was discovered in the refugee camp last year, after she was presumed dead, that UK revoked her status as well. That is what her lawyers are arguing against, she hasn't been made nationless yet, as she still has the option at any point in her life of becoming a Bangladeshi citizen.
There are plenty of other non violent people, and kids, that are truly nationless that deserve the chance more than she does, why don't the lawyers and solicitors choose to help them, oh right I forgot, unknown people wouldn't earn them any money or fame to help their personal careers, so aren't worthy of helping.
[Post edited 16 Jul 2020 21:06]


"She revoked her British national status herself in an interview when she was in ISIS"

Not legally. If I go out in the street and scream "I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY!!" do you think that makes me bankrupt?

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This will upset some.... on 21:08 - Jul 16 with 1114 viewsSpruceMoose

This will upset some.... on 21:06 - Jul 16 by 26_Paz

Your opinion mate. I actually think you’re alright. You’re very passionate in what you believe in and this makes you go too far. You’re very keen to defend your values, which is admirable but sometimes this makes you too eager and you wade in and accuse people of things too hastily. You only see black and white. Either someone’s views align identically to yours or they are an evil racist nasty. The 14 million people who voted Tory can’t all be nasty racist homophobes.
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Paz, let's keep this simple for you. You voted for a party led by a massive racist. Why?

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This will upset some.... on 21:09 - Jul 16 with 1118 viewsjeera

This will upset some.... on 21:07 - Jul 16 by SpruceMoose

"She revoked her British national status herself in an interview when she was in ISIS"

Not legally. If I go out in the street and scream "I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY!!" do you think that makes me bankrupt?


"I CAN FLY"

"I'm a multimillionaire married to 7 stunning Swedish women!"

Damn, why isn't this working?

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This will upset some.... on 21:09 - Jul 16 with 1113 views26_Paz

This will upset some.... on 21:08 - Jul 16 by SpruceMoose

Paz, let's keep this simple for you. You voted for a party led by a massive racist. Why?


I don’t believe that I did.

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This will upset some.... on 21:10 - Jul 16 with 1110 viewsSouthBucksBlue

This will upset some.... on 17:54 - Jul 16 by Herbivore

I am still entirely unclear as to what your argument is here. People don't like her so she shouldn't be allowed back? I'm not sure how well that will stand up in court.


People don’t like her?
She at least indirectly contributed to terrorist murders and doesn’t seem repentant.
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This will upset some.... on 21:12 - Jul 16 with 1106 viewsfooters

This will upset some.... on 21:10 - Jul 16 by SouthBucksBlue

People don’t like her?
She at least indirectly contributed to terrorist murders and doesn’t seem repentant.


And she's going to be dealt with. That's British law, and I guess if you don't like it you can leave :)

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This will upset some.... on 21:13 - Jul 16 with 1094 viewsSpruceMoose

This will upset some.... on 21:09 - Jul 16 by 26_Paz

I don’t believe that I did.


How convenient for you.

Wrong. But convenient.

But Paz... What if you're wrong, and you did?
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This will upset some.... on 21:13 - Jul 16 with 1101 viewsjeera

This will upset some.... on 21:10 - Jul 16 by SouthBucksBlue

People don’t like her?
She at least indirectly contributed to terrorist murders and doesn’t seem repentant.


That's your answer to dealing with criminals?

They perform a criminal act so transportation is the answer?

We did that and actually long term it didn't turn out so bad for some of them.

You don't just decide someone isn't British because they commit a criminal act.

Why is this hard?

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This will upset some.... on 21:15 - Jul 16 with 1092 viewsjeera

This will upset some.... on 21:01 - Jul 16 by 26_Paz

My views are my own. I’m as entitled to them as you are to yours.


No, you are not as it goes.

You don't just get to say something is true if it isn't.

That's not how it works.

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This will upset some.... on 21:15 - Jul 16 with 1090 viewsLittleBoyBlue

This will upset some.... on 21:07 - Jul 16 by jeera

All of this has been addressed in detail time and again and to some extent on this thread too.

You either haven't bothered to read a word or you're just joining your mate there in trying to troll.

You have not said a single thing that hasn't been covered a zillion times.


I've read and followed it for a few years as the subject of radicalisation is an area of psychology which I have studied. So yes I am far more aware of the facts than you seem to be, you have once again only read the 'soundbites' that interest you and accepted it as fact, without checking or fully reading the whole article, which mentions the fact she isn't nationless as she is still allowed to challenge it here and always has the option of becoming a Bangladeshi citizen.

I told you before, personal insults don't affect me and as you never seem to be able to read more than the first 10 sentences of an article, shows how reliable your opinion of facts and truth really is. You comment on things to twist the world onto your own disgusting viewpoint, not to learn, understand and grow as a person.

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This will upset some.... on 21:16 - Jul 16 with 1086 viewsjeera

This will upset some.... on 21:09 - Jul 16 by 26_Paz

I don’t believe that I did.


"All of this has been addressed in detail time and again and to some extent on this thread too.

You either haven't bothered to read a word or you're just joining your mate there in trying to troll.

You have not said a single thing that hasn't been covered a zillion times."

Show me which part of this post is wrong. Literally, in words.

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This will upset some.... on 21:19 - Jul 16 with 1079 views26_Paz

This will upset some.... on 21:16 - Jul 16 by jeera

"All of this has been addressed in detail time and again and to some extent on this thread too.

You either haven't bothered to read a word or you're just joining your mate there in trying to troll.

You have not said a single thing that hasn't been covered a zillion times."

Show me which part of this post is wrong. Literally, in words.


What are you talking about?

The Paz Man

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This will upset some.... on 21:19 - Jul 16 with 1079 viewsfooters

This will upset some.... on 21:15 - Jul 16 by LittleBoyBlue

I've read and followed it for a few years as the subject of radicalisation is an area of psychology which I have studied. So yes I am far more aware of the facts than you seem to be, you have once again only read the 'soundbites' that interest you and accepted it as fact, without checking or fully reading the whole article, which mentions the fact she isn't nationless as she is still allowed to challenge it here and always has the option of becoming a Bangladeshi citizen.

I told you before, personal insults don't affect me and as you never seem to be able to read more than the first 10 sentences of an article, shows how reliable your opinion of facts and truth really is. You comment on things to twist the world onto your own disgusting viewpoint, not to learn, understand and grow as a person.


Hahaha. Nice fabrication of a specialisation there. Bravo, professor.

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This will upset some.... on 21:20 - Jul 16 with 1076 views26_Paz

This will upset some.... on 21:13 - Jul 16 by SpruceMoose

How convenient for you.

Wrong. But convenient.

But Paz... What if you're wrong, and you did?
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If I’m wrong then me and 14 million others have made a mistake

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This will upset some.... on 21:21 - Jul 16 with 1074 views26_Paz

This will upset some.... on 21:15 - Jul 16 by jeera

No, you are not as it goes.

You don't just get to say something is true if it isn't.

That's not how it works.


I am entitled to my opinion.
I’ve never said any of my opinions are ‘right’. I’ve just given them. They are in contrast to yours. I can deal with that. You clearly can’t.

The Paz Man

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This will upset some.... on 21:31 - Jul 16 with 1045 viewsSpruceMoose

This will upset some.... on 21:20 - Jul 16 by 26_Paz

If I’m wrong then me and 14 million others have made a mistake


Or you and 14 million others are racist at worst, lazily dismissive of others at best.

I don't know what to tell you buddy. If you think shïtty mean things, say shïtty mean things, support a shïtty mean political party and don't condemn the shïtty and mean statements of the people you claim to support, then I don't know why you're surprised that people think you yourself might be, I dunno, shïtty and mean.

In an ideal world other supposed 'anti racists' on this forum would be condemning you too and not just leaving it to me and a handful of others, but I guess that doesn't fit with their political game plan.
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This will upset some.... on 21:32 - Jul 16 with 1047 viewsSwansea_Blue

This will upset some.... on 21:07 - Jul 16 by SpruceMoose

"She revoked her British national status herself in an interview when she was in ISIS"

Not legally. If I go out in the street and scream "I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY!!" do you think that makes me bankrupt?


I'll take your antlers

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This will upset some.... on 21:32 - Jul 16 with 1045 viewsLittleBoyBlue

This will upset some.... on 21:19 - Jul 16 by footers

Hahaha. Nice fabrication of a specialisation there. Bravo, professor.


I have mentioned it only a few dozen times before over the years in several different topics, you must have been absent at those times or just never bothered to read.
Sorry it upsets you I'm a psychologist by trade, I know it makes most people uncomfortable if I bring it up, as they think I'm constantly analysing them.
What can I say, I currently work with people that gave been abused, that includes people who have been trafficked for the sex trade, which means I have had to learn about the radicalisation of people as it can often be part of the reason someone ends up in that life, not just because they were kidnapped or exploited.
It's not a speciality, it's just where I chose to focus my efforts and for that reason I study everything I can to grow as a person and understand more.
I'm sorry you are obviously incapable of understanding that some people like to learn and have other interests that you don't, now I've told you, maybe you can learn something new and grow as a person too.

Edit: I will add, I never once said I was an expert at all, it's an interest in my chosen field. That was your choice of words, and from the aggressive way you posted you dislike people that are more knowledgeable in a subject than you. Do you try to ridicule a plumber just because he knows how to fix a drain, and you only know how to turn a tap on, my inkling say yes as you often feel inferior to others so use antagonism types of humor to deflect your own inadequacies onto the other person.
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This will upset some.... on 21:33 - Jul 16 with 1042 views26_Paz

This will upset some.... on 21:31 - Jul 16 by SpruceMoose

Or you and 14 million others are racist at worst, lazily dismissive of others at best.

I don't know what to tell you buddy. If you think shïtty mean things, say shïtty mean things, support a shïtty mean political party and don't condemn the shïtty and mean statements of the people you claim to support, then I don't know why you're surprised that people think you yourself might be, I dunno, shïtty and mean.

In an ideal world other supposed 'anti racists' on this forum would be condemning you too and not just leaving it to me and a handful of others, but I guess that doesn't fit with their political game plan.
[Post edited 16 Jul 2020 21:32]


Game plan? I didn’t realise we were playing a game, I thought we were just posting our thoughts on a forum ...
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This will upset some.... on 21:33 - Jul 16 with 1038 viewsSpruceMoose

This will upset some.... on 21:32 - Jul 16 by Swansea_Blue

I'll take your antlers


Friend to friend, you're better off bidding on my sweet meats.

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This will upset some.... on 21:40 - Jul 16 with 1022 viewsfooters

This will upset some.... on 21:32 - Jul 16 by LittleBoyBlue

I have mentioned it only a few dozen times before over the years in several different topics, you must have been absent at those times or just never bothered to read.
Sorry it upsets you I'm a psychologist by trade, I know it makes most people uncomfortable if I bring it up, as they think I'm constantly analysing them.
What can I say, I currently work with people that gave been abused, that includes people who have been trafficked for the sex trade, which means I have had to learn about the radicalisation of people as it can often be part of the reason someone ends up in that life, not just because they were kidnapped or exploited.
It's not a speciality, it's just where I chose to focus my efforts and for that reason I study everything I can to grow as a person and understand more.
I'm sorry you are obviously incapable of understanding that some people like to learn and have other interests that you don't, now I've told you, maybe you can learn something new and grow as a person too.

Edit: I will add, I never once said I was an expert at all, it's an interest in my chosen field. That was your choice of words, and from the aggressive way you posted you dislike people that are more knowledgeable in a subject than you. Do you try to ridicule a plumber just because he knows how to fix a drain, and you only know how to turn a tap on, my inkling say yes as you often feel inferior to others so use antagonism types of humor to deflect your own inadequacies onto the other person.
[Post edited 16 Jul 2020 21:42]


Very nice story.

Edit: Mate, you can't even use a full stop properly, let alone understand the human psyche. Lolarama.
[Post edited 16 Jul 2020 21:44]

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This will upset some.... on 21:43 - Jul 16 with 1015 viewsSpruceMoose

This will upset some.... on 21:33 - Jul 16 by 26_Paz

Game plan? I didn’t realise we were playing a game, I thought we were just posting our thoughts on a forum ...
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You were lolling about racism a few posts ago...

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This will upset some.... on 21:46 - Jul 16 with 1007 views26_Paz

This will upset some.... on 21:43 - Jul 16 by SpruceMoose

You were lolling about racism a few posts ago...


That’s not what I was doing, as you well know.

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This will upset some.... on 21:49 - Jul 16 with 996 viewsSpruceMoose

This will upset some.... on 21:46 - Jul 16 by 26_Paz

That’s not what I was doing, as you well know.


I'm just judging you by your own words Paz. It's not complicated.

The result of that is the impression that you seem like a poor quality sort.

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