| Jackson's off then 09:09 - Jul 30 with 23104 views | portmanking |
Explains the interest in Jonson Clarke-Harris too.
Sell Jackson for £2m and buy Clarke-Harris (£500-600k) and Charlie Wyke (£300k) and pocket the rest. We get a like-for-like replacement who is perhaps even more prolific than Jackson, as well as an additional physical presence up top. Seems like good business to me. |  | | |  |
| Jackson's off then on 09:56 - Jul 30 with 7670 views | Libero |
| Jackson's off then on 09:54 - Jul 30 by clive_baker |
Armand Gnaduillet would give me a massive stiffy, not just because I really rate him but he's exactly what we need IMO. If we're going to play that system with him spearheading, and get some busy kids off him in Lankester, Dobra, El Mizouni etc. The likes of Downes / Bishop / Dozzell behind them.
That starts to look naughty. |
I've seen you and others band his name around, is there any indication that the club are looking at him? Or is it just a case of the supporters fancying him? |  | | |
| Jackson's off then on 09:58 - Jul 30 with 7664 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Joint top goal scorer and top assists.
Keep him for another year, on his current wages. Then sell at the end of the season.
We don't really want to lose someone who was involved in 20 goals last season. |  |
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| Jackson's off then on 09:58 - Jul 30 with 7662 views | clive_baker |
| Jackson's off then on 09:56 - Jul 30 by Libero |
I've seen you and others band his name around, is there any indication that the club are looking at him? Or is it just a case of the supporters fancying him? |
I can't see it, to be fair.
I would imagine he'll have offers from elsewhere, whether abroad or Championship. |  |
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| Jackson's off then on 09:58 - Jul 30 with 7655 views | homer_123 |
| Jackson's off then on 09:54 - Jul 30 by clive_baker |
Armand Gnaduillet would give me a massive stiffy, not just because I really rate him but he's exactly what we need IMO. If we're going to play that system with him spearheading, and get some busy kids off him in Lankester, Dobra, El Mizouni etc. The likes of Downes / Bishop / Dozzell behind them.
That starts to look naughty. |
No chance we'd sign him. |  |
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| Jackson's off then on 09:59 - Jul 30 with 7655 views | Herbivore |
| Jackson's off then on 09:47 - Jul 30 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
I have no issue with Jackson leaving. We paid over the odds for him from Accrington, would imagine you are more likely to get a higher six figure sum than anywhere near the £2m mark.
Can see him replacing Ivan Toney at Posh when he leaves.
I wouldn't mind him going if get Armand Gnaduillet on a free, now that would be good business. |
And watch when Peterborough flog him next summer for £4m plus after a 20 goal season. Cracking business that would be. |  |
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| Jackson's off then on 09:59 - Jul 30 with 7655 views | homer_123 |
| Jackson's off then on 09:58 - Jul 30 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Joint top goal scorer and top assists.
Keep him for another year, on his current wages. Then sell at the end of the season.
We don't really want to lose someone who was involved in 20 goals last season. |
Oh come on...it's the Ipswich way. | |
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| Jackson's off then on 09:59 - Jul 30 with 7656 views | Horsham |
| Jackson's off then on 09:28 - Jul 30 by PhilTWTD |
I think 4-2-3-1 is PL's preferred system and I agree that Jackson doesn't obviously fit into that being neither an out-and-out number nine or someone who has regularly played wide, although I think that may be how he will be used more in the future. I don't think there's any hurry to move him on and he's happy here, I believe. |
Cheers. Interesting re the preferred formation comments. Heard people quote this 4-3-3 thing a lot. Just an interpretation issue and assumption the two systems are the same thing? |  | | |
| Jackson's off then on 10:00 - Jul 30 with 7651 views | Herbivore |
| Jackson's off then on 09:48 - Jul 30 by portmanking |
Would tend to agree that a front three of Lankester-Norwood-Jackson is the best we've got at present in that system. |
Rotate Lankester and Dobra to keep them both fit and help them develop. I'd not be against replacing Norwood but that would likely involve shifting him first and I can't see that happening. | |
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| Jackson's off then on 10:04 - Jul 30 with 7627 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
| Jackson's off then on 09:59 - Jul 30 by Horsham |
Cheers. Interesting re the preferred formation comments. Heard people quote this 4-3-3 thing a lot. Just an interpretation issue and assumption the two systems are the same thing? |
I think Lambert wanted to go 4-2-3-1 last I believe, but do to injuries, felt he didn't have the right personnel last year to do it.
I think Lankester/Bishop/Sears injuries played a big part in that, and then Judge started to the season like a geezer turning up to games after he'd been on the p*ss.
I think this year there is real potential and possibility for an exciting 4-2-3-1 system to be built, IF the right players stay fit. |  |
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| Jackson's off then on 10:05 - Jul 30 with 7627 views | Horsham |
| Jackson's off then on 09:58 - Jul 30 by clive_baker |
I can't see it, to be fair.
I would imagine he'll have offers from elsewhere, whether abroad or Championship. |
Not saying he will come here but I don’t think we’re really beneath his level in the grand scheme of things. We’re a top team in the league he’s been playing in and realistically how many teams from the championship will come calling?
We apparently beat championship teams to sign Norwood. I think we’ve proved we can push fairly hard when we really want to try. | | | |
| Jackson's off then on 10:06 - Jul 30 with 7625 views | TractorCam |
Would be more like 1 million each way for Jackson and Clarke-Harris. |  |
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| Jackson's off then on 10:06 - Jul 30 with 7614 views | Darth_Koont |
| Jackson's off then on 09:17 - Jul 30 by PhilTWTD |
Think it's just the usual knockabout on the contract with Jackson and would be very surprised if we were after Clarke-Harris. Re Wyke, it's reported that Sunderland have said he's going nowhere. |
Yep. I'd also imagine there'll be lots of similar stories around at this particular time. There's probably never been a time where clubs will be less eager to improve or even maintain terms with the current loss in revenue and the uncertainty about next year's revenue.
Players and agents will of course hold out for the best deal but their options look as bad if not worse on the open market.
Hope both parties can come to some agreement. While we can't be held to ransom given the financial situation, there's also little doubt that Jackson has been our most effective striker and really quite good in that wide forward role. |  |
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| Jackson's off then on 10:07 - Jul 30 with 7607 views | portmanking |
| Jackson's off then on 09:58 - Jul 30 by clive_baker |
I can't see it, to be fair.
I would imagine he'll have offers from elsewhere, whether abroad or Championship. |
He strikes me as the kind of player that will have suitors in leagues like Qatar, UAE and even the Chinese Super League, don't ask me why. | | | |
| Jackson's off then on 10:08 - Jul 30 with 7602 views | NthQldITFC |
| Jackson's off then on 09:54 - Jul 30 by clive_baker |
Armand Gnaduillet would give me a massive stiffy, not just because I really rate him but he's exactly what we need IMO. If we're going to play that system with him spearheading, and get some busy kids off him in Lankester, Dobra, El Mizouni etc. The likes of Downes / Bishop / Dozzell behind them.
That starts to look naughty. |
I hope that's not more dog-related coded language in there, Mr Baker - 'massive stiffy' could be interpreted as mastiff. |  |
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| Jackson's off then on 10:09 - Jul 30 with 7592 views | clive_baker |
| Jackson's off then on 10:05 - Jul 30 by Horsham |
Not saying he will come here but I don’t think we’re really beneath his level in the grand scheme of things. We’re a top team in the league he’s been playing in and realistically how many teams from the championship will come calling?
We apparently beat championship teams to sign Norwood. I think we’ve proved we can push fairly hard when we really want to try. |
Top team in the league? The table would suggest otherwise.
I don't doubt we can pay him a bit more than he was on at B'pool, but I think there will be a decent amount of interest in him from the league above tbh. Don't get me wrong, he's not off to Barcelona any time soon but a Championship club will take a punt. | |
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| Jackson's off then on 10:14 - Jul 30 with 7561 views | Horsham |
| Jackson's off then on 10:04 - Jul 30 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
I think Lambert wanted to go 4-2-3-1 last I believe, but do to injuries, felt he didn't have the right personnel last year to do it.
I think Lankester/Bishop/Sears injuries played a big part in that, and then Judge started to the season like a geezer turning up to games after he'd been on the p*ss.
I think this year there is real potential and possibility for an exciting 4-2-3-1 system to be built, IF the right players stay fit. |
It doesn’t all scan quite right for me. Even down to signing Garbutt who lets face it isn’t a quality left back but fits nicely on the left on a 4-4-2 yet somehow doesn’t seem quite left of 3 in a 4-2-3-1 for me...not really enough of a forward or a defender yet he made a lot more of reference to a specific role Lambert brought him in to do. Presumably that role wasn’t wing back or indeed left back. Find that recruitment puzzling in the context of Lambert’s tactical action preferences. FWIW I like Garbutt and think he’s a good player but wouldn’t be rushing to sign him if I’m trying to build around a system that doesn’t suit him. | | | |
| Jackson's off then on 10:17 - Jul 30 with 7546 views | PhilTWTD |
| Jackson's off then on 09:59 - Jul 30 by Horsham |
Cheers. Interesting re the preferred formation comments. Heard people quote this 4-3-3 thing a lot. Just an interpretation issue and assumption the two systems are the same thing? |
Probably, 4-2-3-1 is essentially a variation on 4-3-3, as are other systems. |  | | |
| Jackson's off then on 10:21 - Jul 30 with 7527 views | portmanking |
| Jackson's off then on 10:09 - Jul 30 by clive_baker |
Top team in the league? The table would suggest otherwise.
I don't doubt we can pay him a bit more than he was on at B'pool, but I think there will be a decent amount of interest in him from the league above tbh. Don't get me wrong, he's not off to Barcelona any time soon but a Championship club will take a punt. |
Gnanduillet would be absolutely perfect for Wycombe. | | | |
| Jackson's off then on 10:23 - Jul 30 with 7526 views | Horsham |
| Jackson's off then on 10:09 - Jul 30 by clive_baker |
Top team in the league? The table would suggest otherwise.
I don't doubt we can pay him a bit more than he was on at B'pool, but I think there will be a decent amount of interest in him from the league above tbh. Don't get me wrong, he's not off to Barcelona any time soon but a Championship club will take a punt. |
Ok we’re a big team in this league. A championship team may take a punt as you say but he might prefer to be our marquee signing rather than QPR’s 4th striker who’ll be the first out the door if Warbuton gets the boot for example . | | | |
| Jackson's off then on 10:23 - Jul 30 with 7525 views | Darth_Koont |
| Jackson's off then on 10:14 - Jul 30 by Horsham |
It doesn’t all scan quite right for me. Even down to signing Garbutt who lets face it isn’t a quality left back but fits nicely on the left on a 4-4-2 yet somehow doesn’t seem quite left of 3 in a 4-2-3-1 for me...not really enough of a forward or a defender yet he made a lot more of reference to a specific role Lambert brought him in to do. Presumably that role wasn’t wing back or indeed left back. Find that recruitment puzzling in the context of Lambert’s tactical action preferences. FWIW I like Garbutt and think he’s a good player but wouldn’t be rushing to sign him if I’m trying to build around a system that doesn’t suit him. |
Agreed re: Garbutt. He really was valuable as a LM or as a LWB and he and the team seemed much worse with him stuck deep in a LB role.
Lambert seemed to spend most of the season trying and failing to find a position for Judge and that was the main reason for us being so disjointed in attack. Nothing against Judge who has a lot of great attributes but he just doesn't seem to fit the players around him. And ends up wandering around the pitch in search of the ball and trying to do far too much on his own.
Still not sure how we're going to solve that conundrum. | |
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| Jackson's off then on 10:25 - Jul 30 with 7508 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
"Sell Jackson for £2m"
Do you believe in fairies, too? |  |
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| Jackson's off then on 10:34 - Jul 30 with 7479 views | Horsham |
| Jackson's off then on 10:23 - Jul 30 by Darth_Koont |
Agreed re: Garbutt. He really was valuable as a LM or as a LWB and he and the team seemed much worse with him stuck deep in a LB role.
Lambert seemed to spend most of the season trying and failing to find a position for Judge and that was the main reason for us being so disjointed in attack. Nothing against Judge who has a lot of great attributes but he just doesn't seem to fit the players around him. And ends up wandering around the pitch in search of the ball and trying to do far too much on his own.
Still not sure how we're going to solve that conundrum. |
Think with Judge he’s fine wondering about like he does if he can also hold the shape of the team otherwise he’s just a luxury player and the assists and goals he has provided don’t really justify him being allowed to disrupt the shape of the team. | | | |
| Jackson's off then on 10:43 - Jul 30 with 7445 views | Parky |
| Jackson's off then on 09:45 - Jul 30 by StokieBlue |
You seem to be confirming the point in my original post.
Can you give your reasoning?
SB |
Pardon? I’m not disputing he’s one of our best players, evidenced by his contributions last season.
However, we are a slightly above average League One club, if anybody was to offer anything in excess of £750,000 for Jackson, I think the club would take it.
Jackson hasn’t proven to be anywhere near a £2m player, especially with the free agent market this season. | | | |
| Jackson's off then on 10:48 - Jul 30 with 7419 views | Herbivore |
| Jackson's off then on 10:43 - Jul 30 by Parky |
Pardon? I’m not disputing he’s one of our best players, evidenced by his contributions last season.
However, we are a slightly above average League One club, if anybody was to offer anything in excess of £750,000 for Jackson, I think the club would take it.
Jackson hasn’t proven to be anywhere near a £2m player, especially with the free agent market this season. |
Being involved in circa 20 goals in three quarters of a season in League 1 makes you worth £2m, especially when you factor in that he's still mid 20s, has ridiculous pace, and has 2 years left to run on his contract here. We'd be stupid to let him go for six figures. | |
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| Jackson's off then on 10:48 - Jul 30 with 7418 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
| Jackson's off then on 10:14 - Jul 30 by Horsham |
It doesn’t all scan quite right for me. Even down to signing Garbutt who lets face it isn’t a quality left back but fits nicely on the left on a 4-4-2 yet somehow doesn’t seem quite left of 3 in a 4-2-3-1 for me...not really enough of a forward or a defender yet he made a lot more of reference to a specific role Lambert brought him in to do. Presumably that role wasn’t wing back or indeed left back. Find that recruitment puzzling in the context of Lambert’s tactical action preferences. FWIW I like Garbutt and think he’s a good player but wouldn’t be rushing to sign him if I’m trying to build around a system that doesn’t suit him. |
I tend to agree, I like Garbutt as well, and technically he's obviously a good footballer, I think his best position is actually a wing back. I think he does well at LM in that 4-4-2, but when you move to a 4-2-3-1 for example, that front 3 in behind the striker have to have some flair and creative spark and I'm not so sure he's in that mould, same with the 4-3-3.
Would be in no rush to sign him permanently, especially as I think he'll be on good money.
I would much rather sign players that fit the system, rather than fit the system around players, almost shoehorn players into a system. Probably why I wouldn't begrudge if Jackson were to leave, I don't think he fits into Lambert's long term system preference. | |
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