| Chances of the young displacing the old? 16:56 - Aug 19 with 2292 views | groovyASH |
What do you think are the chances players like El Mizouni and Dobra will be starting ahead of folk like Nolan, Skuse and Huws?
The talent is there for all to see, I think the genuine advantage they have over the Nolans of this world is that they are more likely to take positive risks and play to their talents, as they have not been a part of the mess that is the last two years.
Their attitudes and approach are also more likely to warm the crowd up and get appreciation from the fans, which is more important than ever before. |  |
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| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 17:00 - Aug 19 with 1976 views | hype313 |
Huws is 26, bit early to be binning him to the scrapheap don't you think, Nolan isn't much older. |  |
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| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 17:21 - Aug 19 with 1917 views | StokieBlue |
| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 17:00 - Aug 19 by hype313 |
Huws is 26, bit early to be binning him to the scrapheap don't you think, Nolan isn't much older. |
Nolan has other issues, such as an inability to look and pass forwards.
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| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 17:36 - Aug 19 with 1888 views | Illinoisblue |
| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 17:21 - Aug 19 by StokieBlue |
Nolan has other issues, such as an inability to look and pass forwards.
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He’s been the biggest letdown of the Hurst signings. Genuinely thought we were getting a forward-thinking goal-scoring midfielder. |  |
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| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 17:44 - Aug 19 with 1859 views | Herbivore |
| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 17:36 - Aug 19 by Illinoisblue |
He’s been the biggest letdown of the Hurst signings. Genuinely thought we were getting a forward-thinking goal-scoring midfielder. |
I thought the same when we signed Judge. |  |
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| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 18:00 - Aug 19 with 1842 views | itfcjoe |
El Mizouni is the one this year, he just has that absolute swagger that you need - so confident in his own skin and offers so much. He looks like he has what it takes to grab a shirt and not give it up. |  |
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| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 18:05 - Aug 19 with 1822 views | IpswichKnight |
| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 18:00 - Aug 19 by itfcjoe |
El Mizouni is the one this year, he just has that absolute swagger that you need - so confident in his own skin and offers so much. He looks like he has what it takes to grab a shirt and not give it up. |
Totally agree he has something that makes you excited to see him play, however where do we play him and who makes way?
Nolan at times in the relegation season looked a decent player Derby at home for example but last season he looked totally lost probably not helped by constant formation changes though. |  | | |
| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 18:12 - Aug 19 with 1796 views | Herbivore |
| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 18:00 - Aug 19 by itfcjoe |
El Mizouni is the one this year, he just has that absolute swagger that you need - so confident in his own skin and offers so much. He looks like he has what it takes to grab a shirt and not give it up. |
Agreed. Play a midfield three and give him a run. Downes and one of Huws/Skuse/Nolan/even Bishop alongside him. The kid clearly has a lot of ability and your right about the swagger he has that means he's not likely to be phased by the step up. Bishop had it when he broke through, as did Lankester. I think it's there in Dobra too. | |
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| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 18:26 - Aug 19 with 1760 views | Illinoisblue |
| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 17:44 - Aug 19 by Herbivore |
I thought the same when we signed Judge. |
He too has been massively underwhelming. Let’s hope injuries and personal issues are behind him and he can dominate L1 | |
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| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 18:46 - Aug 19 with 1700 views | textbackup |
| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 18:26 - Aug 19 by Illinoisblue |
He too has been massively underwhelming. Let’s hope injuries and personal issues are behind him and he can dominate L1 |
I just hope they've all learnt their lesson not to take l1 and the opposition for granted.
they are fcking lucky covid hit and things didn't turn nasty on them, as it would have. they got off lightly |  |
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| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 18:50 - Aug 19 with 1683 views | groovyASH |
| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 17:00 - Aug 19 by hype313 |
Huws is 26, bit early to be binning him to the scrapheap don't you think, Nolan isn't much older. |
I didn't mean old as in age, I meant as in the established | |
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| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 18:51 - Aug 19 with 1680 views | groovyASH |
| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 17:21 - Aug 19 by StokieBlue |
Nolan has other issues, such as an inability to look and pass forwards.
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Exactly, these apparently talented midfielders have huffed, puffed and struggled their way through the supposedly best years of their footballing careers | |
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| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 18:52 - Aug 19 with 1677 views | groovyASH |
| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 18:00 - Aug 19 by itfcjoe |
El Mizouni is the one this year, he just has that absolute swagger that you need - so confident in his own skin and offers so much. He looks like he has what it takes to grab a shirt and not give it up. |
That's exactly it, the pomp and swagger is what we have missed in our squad, a genuine primal belief in their ability. | |
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| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 19:12 - Aug 19 with 1630 views | TieDyedIn95 |
I think we shouldn't read too much into a set of practice matches with Colchester in which Colchester only really showed up for one. The gulf between the two teams in the first game made it a walk over, the second game we went back to our own ways and although won didn't really impress against such poor opposition. Both Dobra and El Miz looked alright but Drinan deserves a bit more praise than he's been getting for the first game. We want everyone to be firing for places really but I wouldn't bet on much change next season with PRP at the helm. |  |
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| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 20:15 - Aug 19 with 1515 views | BlueBadger |
| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 18:05 - Aug 19 by IpswichKnight |
Totally agree he has something that makes you excited to see him play, however where do we play him and who makes way?
Nolan at times in the relegation season looked a decent player Derby at home for example but last season he looked totally lost probably not helped by constant formation changes though. |
Central in a 3, coming on for Norwood/Hawkins with about 20 to go. |  |
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| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 21:10 - Aug 19 with 1444 views | Westcountryblue |
I think Bishop and Downes are guaranteed starters if fit, probably alongside Skuse.
Although Dobra is a 10, i can see him being used an inside forward/winger in the later stages of games. He is super talented and it is only a matter of time before he gets a prolonged run of games in the team.
I think the same will happen for El Mizouni. Unfortunately for him we have a glut of CM's and he might struggle to displace Bishop and Judge who offer similar qualities. Maybe Downes will take a deeper role and replace Skuse though as the season progresses, opening up a space for him. | | | |
| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 06:36 - Aug 20 with 1284 views | Libero |
| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 21:10 - Aug 19 by Westcountryblue |
I think Bishop and Downes are guaranteed starters if fit, probably alongside Skuse.
Although Dobra is a 10, i can see him being used an inside forward/winger in the later stages of games. He is super talented and it is only a matter of time before he gets a prolonged run of games in the team.
I think the same will happen for El Mizouni. Unfortunately for him we have a glut of CM's and he might struggle to displace Bishop and Judge who offer similar qualities. Maybe Downes will take a deeper role and replace Skuse though as the season progresses, opening up a space for him. |
Bishop really isn’t a guaranteed starter, he has it all to prove. |  | | |
| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 06:40 - Aug 20 with 1272 views | textbackup |
| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 06:36 - Aug 20 by Libero |
Bishop really isn’t a guaranteed starter, he has it all to prove. |
If fit hes one of, if not the first, name down for me. | |
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| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 06:52 - Aug 20 with 1242 views | Libero |
| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 06:40 - Aug 20 by textbackup |
If fit hes one of, if not the first, name down for me. |
Thing is mate, it’s been half a decade since he put a proper run of games together!
He was a teenager back then, now he’s in his mid-twenties, reality is that we don’t know what kind of player Teddy Bishop is these days, we just know that when he broke into the side he looked a great prospect and had a high level of natural ability.
If it wasn’t for that high level of ability/potential he wouldn’t have got his last contract extension, it’s a do or die season For Teddy.
Despite only being around for five minutes, Downes is very close to catching Bishop up in appearances, he’s already over taken and lapped him multiple times for 90 minutes completed.
I expect El Mizouni will do the same over the next couple of seasons.
Teddy Bishop from his breakthrough season would walk into our midfield and be the best player in the team currently, but it’s been a long while since we’ve seen that Teddy Bishop.
Since that debut season he’s made 50 odd appearances in 5 seasons, I’d be interested to know if there has ever been a player that has suffered such serious set back upon set back that has overcome them to play week-in-week-out. [Post edited 20 Aug 2020 6:58]
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| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 08:25 - Aug 20 with 1162 views | textbackup |
| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 06:52 - Aug 20 by Libero |
Thing is mate, it’s been half a decade since he put a proper run of games together!
He was a teenager back then, now he’s in his mid-twenties, reality is that we don’t know what kind of player Teddy Bishop is these days, we just know that when he broke into the side he looked a great prospect and had a high level of natural ability.
If it wasn’t for that high level of ability/potential he wouldn’t have got his last contract extension, it’s a do or die season For Teddy.
Despite only being around for five minutes, Downes is very close to catching Bishop up in appearances, he’s already over taken and lapped him multiple times for 90 minutes completed.
I expect El Mizouni will do the same over the next couple of seasons.
Teddy Bishop from his breakthrough season would walk into our midfield and be the best player in the team currently, but it’s been a long while since we’ve seen that Teddy Bishop.
Since that debut season he’s made 50 odd appearances in 5 seasons, I’d be interested to know if there has ever been a player that has suffered such serious set back upon set back that has overcome them to play week-in-week-out. [Post edited 20 Aug 2020 6:58]
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From glimpses I’ve seen of him it’s clear to see he still has that quality
I feel gutted for him, and us, that he’s missed so much football | |
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| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 09:12 - Aug 20 with 1119 views | Libero |
| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 08:25 - Aug 20 by textbackup |
From glimpses I’ve seen of him it’s clear to see he still has that quality
I feel gutted for him, and us, that he’s missed so much football |
Aye, that will never leave, the question marks are about his physical ability to deal with the rigours of playing professional football week-in-week-our.
Yeah, can’t imagine how frustrating it is for him as an individual. | | | |
| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 09:27 - Aug 20 with 1107 views | Devereuxxx |
| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 21:10 - Aug 19 by Westcountryblue |
I think Bishop and Downes are guaranteed starters if fit, probably alongside Skuse.
Although Dobra is a 10, i can see him being used an inside forward/winger in the later stages of games. He is super talented and it is only a matter of time before he gets a prolonged run of games in the team.
I think the same will happen for El Mizouni. Unfortunately for him we have a glut of CM's and he might struggle to displace Bishop and Judge who offer similar qualities. Maybe Downes will take a deeper role and replace Skuse though as the season progresses, opening up a space for him. |
There's a lot of suggestions on this thread that Downes will naturally be the successor to Skuse this season, but I think that's actually underplaying his skill set. Last season he played his best games when he was a forward-thinking box-to-box midfielder and playing far further up the pitch than Skuse.
I actually think a midfield 3 of Skuse - Downes - El Mizouni has a nice balance to it. Then with Bishop, Huws and Judge rotating in when needed. I'm not saying this is what we will start the season with, but i'd like to see it at some point.
I don't see where Nolan fits in at all. He's far too one dimensional and I'd actually say in my book he's our 7th choice central midfielder. |  | | |
| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 09:37 - Aug 20 with 1090 views | Libero |
| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 09:27 - Aug 20 by Devereuxxx |
There's a lot of suggestions on this thread that Downes will naturally be the successor to Skuse this season, but I think that's actually underplaying his skill set. Last season he played his best games when he was a forward-thinking box-to-box midfielder and playing far further up the pitch than Skuse.
I actually think a midfield 3 of Skuse - Downes - El Mizouni has a nice balance to it. Then with Bishop, Huws and Judge rotating in when needed. I'm not saying this is what we will start the season with, but i'd like to see it at some point.
I don't see where Nolan fits in at all. He's far too one dimensional and I'd actually say in my book he's our 7th choice central midfielder. |
Yup, Downes is a dynamic ball winning midfielder and would be wasted in a water carrier role. I actually think he’s a lot like Mark Noble when he came here on loan! [Post edited 20 Aug 2020 9:41]
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| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 09:44 - Aug 20 with 1069 views | PhilTWTD |
| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 18:00 - Aug 19 by itfcjoe |
El Mizouni is the one this year, he just has that absolute swagger that you need - so confident in his own skin and offers so much. He looks like he has what it takes to grab a shirt and not give it up. |
I think you're right, is doing well but a lot of competition in that area of the field. Am hearing good reports of McGavin in pre-season training as well, might be another to make his mark. |  | | |
| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 09:57 - Aug 20 with 1038 views | Mullet |
| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 09:44 - Aug 20 by PhilTWTD |
I think you're right, is doing well but a lot of competition in that area of the field. Am hearing good reports of McGavin in pre-season training as well, might be another to make his mark. |
It would be nice to think McGavin, Dobra, Folami et al. get 10-15 good appearances under their belt across the league and cups and maybe the ones further ahead are keeping out the old guard once we've won the league by February. |  |
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| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 09:58 - Aug 20 with 1036 views | itfcjoe |
| Chances of the young displacing the old? on 09:37 - Aug 20 by Libero |
Yup, Downes is a dynamic ball winning midfielder and would be wasted in a water carrier role. I actually think he’s a lot like Mark Noble when he came here on loan! [Post edited 20 Aug 2020 9:41]
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He sat deep in the same role Skuse had on Tuesday night, but still got forward to have a header cleared off the line and another diving header drop just wide - so whilst he sat deep and dropped in when full backs pushed on he still got up and down.
Dozzell didn't do a huge amount, but was bright enough and switched on enough to drop in when Downes did push on | |
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