| Well done Brexit voters 06:04 - Jan 7 with 7906 views | BryanPlug |
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| Well done Brexit voters on 13:45 - Jan 7 with 865 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Well done Brexit voters on 13:32 - Jan 7 by Herbivore |
I've posted links on here previously to a number of studies that show no evidence of EU migration driving down wages. |
I'm sure you have. Many will not be objective.
Bear in mind LSE is actually pro EU/anti-Brexit, it has no agenda here. There are others too, I actually did a lot of research on my dissertation on the economic impact of the Eu expansion (went it went to 25 countries).
Although the labour market is complex, supply and demand are big factors, and a near unlimited supply of labour will of course suppress wages for un-skilled workers. Indeed with the Eastern European nations joining, it was never going to be a level playing field.
I have no agenda, I'm not lower paid so I won't benefit from any shortage of labour. I just couldn't square why those to the left were (mostly) pro free movement of labour, and I believe this is one of the reasons Corbyn was no EU fan. |  | | |
| Well done Brexit voters on 13:59 - Jan 7 with 834 views | Moriarty |
| Well done Brexit voters on 12:56 - Jan 7 by Lord_Lucan |
There is no way we will end up with a worse trade deal than we already have.
Absolutely no way. |
Yes way, unfortunately. Very much yes way.
US negotiators will be notoriously difficult to deal with, much more difficult than the EU negotiators. |  |
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| Well done Brexit voters on 14:31 - Jan 7 with 800 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Well done Brexit voters on 13:59 - Jan 7 by Moriarty |
Yes way, unfortunately. Very much yes way.
US negotiators will be notoriously difficult to deal with, much more difficult than the EU negotiators. |
Heard it all before.
I'll bet you a cyber £1 |  |
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| Well done Brexit voters on 14:49 - Jan 7 with 782 views | Eireannach_gorm |
| Well done Brexit voters on 13:45 - Jan 7 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
I'm sure you have. Many will not be objective.
Bear in mind LSE is actually pro EU/anti-Brexit, it has no agenda here. There are others too, I actually did a lot of research on my dissertation on the economic impact of the Eu expansion (went it went to 25 countries).
Although the labour market is complex, supply and demand are big factors, and a near unlimited supply of labour will of course suppress wages for un-skilled workers. Indeed with the Eastern European nations joining, it was never going to be a level playing field.
I have no agenda, I'm not lower paid so I won't benefit from any shortage of labour. I just couldn't square why those to the left were (mostly) pro free movement of labour, and I believe this is one of the reasons Corbyn was no EU fan. |
I was under the impression that one of the reasons for Brexit was to allow the UK to decide their own labour laws. You can have no minimum wage now if you choose for example. |  | | |
| Well done Brexit voters on 14:56 - Jan 7 with 773 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Well done Brexit voters on 14:49 - Jan 7 by Eireannach_gorm |
I was under the impression that one of the reasons for Brexit was to allow the UK to decide their own labour laws. You can have no minimum wage now if you choose for example. |
I think it's probably unlikely to happen under a Conservative government - they will allow wages to be driven by the free market. | | | |
| Well done Brexit voters on 14:58 - Jan 7 with 766 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Well done Brexit voters on 08:13 - Jan 7 by tiptreeblue |
Then there must be an opportunity for a young entrepreneur, or an established company to start producing these things? |
Tiptree, we're not in Kansa anymore |  | | |
| Well done Brexit voters on 14:58 - Jan 7 with 762 views | Leaky |
| Well done Brexit voters on 13:30 - Jan 7 by Herbivore |
Not sure that'd work, mate. A lot of job losses will result from manufacturing companies moving operations out of the UK so we will need to replace those as well as having this manufacturing boom so we don't have to import so much anymore. I'm not entirely convinced you've thought this through. |
I guess time will tel. |  | | |
| Well done Brexit voters on 15:01 - Jan 7 with 756 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Well done Brexit voters on 14:58 - Jan 7 by Leaky |
I guess time will tel. |
Already has in some areas. Jobs have gone overseas, companies and organisations have relocated, investment has been moved away from the UK. |  |
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| Well done Brexit voters on 15:05 - Jan 7 with 751 views | BlueBadger |
| Well done Brexit voters on 12:56 - Jan 7 by Leaky |
The labour gap could be filled by the mass unemployment, that project fear told us would result from Brexit |
We're nearly five years down the line from the vote and we're yet to show signs of recovering nursing(and other AHP) numbers post 2016 when huge swathes of EU staff left and stopped being replaced. I fear your optimism may be misplaced here. |  |
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| Well done Brexit voters on 15:21 - Jan 7 with 713 views | Cotty |
| Well done Brexit voters on 08:10 - Jan 7 by Keaneish |
I’d like to think an entrepreneur would look at this situation and see opportunity to make the parts in England and capitalise on the situation. Think we’ll see lots of pragmatism like this in the upcoming months and years... |
The pragmatic thing to do would've have been to stay in the EU. |  | | |
| Well done Brexit voters on 15:22 - Jan 7 with 710 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Well done Brexit voters on 15:05 - Jan 7 by BlueBadger |
We're nearly five years down the line from the vote and we're yet to show signs of recovering nursing(and other AHP) numbers post 2016 when huge swathes of EU staff left and stopped being replaced. I fear your optimism may be misplaced here. |
Universities are Donald Ducked from drop in EU students too. And then throw on top the loss of some big hitters who've moved overseas, and the loss of of Structural Funds for those areas that used to qualify and we're doubly screwed. Includes nursing courses of course too, which had the double whammy of both the bursaries being taken away and the xenophobic outlook on the world.
Fk this Tory government, etc... | |
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| Well done Brexit voters on 15:24 - Jan 7 with 708 views | Cotty |
| Well done Brexit voters on 12:56 - Jan 7 by Leaky |
The labour gap could be filled by the mass unemployment, that project fear told us would result from Brexit |
You seem to be under the misapprehension that nursing is not a skilled profession. | | | |
| Well done Brexit voters on 15:30 - Jan 7 with 694 views | jeera |
| Well done Brexit voters on 12:56 - Jan 7 by Leaky |
The labour gap could be filled by the mass unemployment, that project fear told us would result from Brexit |
This Project Fear thing became dull a very long time ago.
Publishing a list of likely/possible outcomes from a potentially life-changing decisions is not there to inflict fear, but to inform. That so many people have treated it in the way you describe it has been part of the problem. It's called not listening.
But, putting that to one side, didn't the more extreme version of that come directly from Cameron himself? |  |
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| Well done Brexit voters on 16:21 - Jan 7 with 670 views | Herbivore |
| Well done Brexit voters on 13:35 - Jan 7 by Lord_Lucan |
That must have took you a while. |
Not really, no. |  |
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| Well done Brexit voters on 19:24 - Jan 7 with 620 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| Well done Brexit voters on 09:41 - Jan 7 by jeera |
Really?
So when do you open your first factory then? |
Gutesei plc..... |  |
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| Well done Brexit voters on 20:01 - Jan 7 with 601 views | Herbivore |
| Well done Brexit voters on 13:45 - Jan 7 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
I'm sure you have. Many will not be objective.
Bear in mind LSE is actually pro EU/anti-Brexit, it has no agenda here. There are others too, I actually did a lot of research on my dissertation on the economic impact of the Eu expansion (went it went to 25 countries).
Although the labour market is complex, supply and demand are big factors, and a near unlimited supply of labour will of course suppress wages for un-skilled workers. Indeed with the Eastern European nations joining, it was never going to be a level playing field.
I have no agenda, I'm not lower paid so I won't benefit from any shortage of labour. I just couldn't square why those to the left were (mostly) pro free movement of labour, and I believe this is one of the reasons Corbyn was no EU fan. |
The link you posted is a blog, it's not empirical research undertaken by LSE. It quotes one piece of empirical research that shows a small impact on wages, there are other studies that show slightly different. It's easy to write stuff off as not being objective when you don't agree with it, but it's also very lazy. The link you posted is literally an opinion piece, albeit from someone with an interest in and some expertise in the field. [Post edited 7 Jan 2021 20:14]
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