| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown 13:44 - Jan 25 with 12300 views | ipswich_away |
Hi everyone,
Hope you're doing well. I occasionally write for Cardiff blogs etc.
To say we are underwhelmed with the appointment of big Mick would be an understatement. However some have been romanced by his direct Yorkshire accent.
Would love to get Town fans thoughts as you guys would know more than anyone:
> What can we expect from him? Hoof and hope?
> Is he really a dinosaur?
> What's his team setup and preferred formation/style of play?
> Is he tactically astute?
> Transfer wise, does he have a 'type'?
> Finally, how long before the Northern charm wears off?
Would love to get your thoughts and off topic, how's Emyr Huws doing? seems to have fallen off the face of the earth after a period out with injury.
All the best!
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| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 13:45 - Jan 25 with 4297 views | FrimleyBlue |
Quite simply
Will win games, win the fans over - its not exciting, it's direct, hard to beat and will mainly be 1-0 or 2-1 wins.
Then will continue to win games, slowly begin to bore fans
then he will start losing whilst boring fans
then tell fans to fk off and then storm out of a press conference
All in all, enjoy the beginning Oh and his last 3 clubs all got relegated after he left. [Post edited 25 Jan 2021 13:46]
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| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 13:48 - Jan 25 with 4236 views | OsborneOneNil |
Huws.......real shame, hasn't come back to anywhere close to his pre-injury form. |  | | |
| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 13:48 - Jan 25 with 4233 views | ipswich_away |
| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 13:45 - Jan 25 by FrimleyBlue |
Quite simply
Will win games, win the fans over - its not exciting, it's direct, hard to beat and will mainly be 1-0 or 2-1 wins.
Then will continue to win games, slowly begin to bore fans
then he will start losing whilst boring fans
then tell fans to fk off and then storm out of a press conference
All in all, enjoy the beginning Oh and his last 3 clubs all got relegated after he left. [Post edited 25 Jan 2021 13:46]
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Essentially a replica of our previous two managers then. Thanks FrimleyBlue. | | | |
| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 13:50 - Jan 25 with 4199 views | Herbivore |
You will get a whole host of different responses to those questions I expect.
From my point of view Mick did a good job here overall, for 3 years or so he did an excellent job. His main strength is his ability to make the team greater than the sum of its parts. He achieved that fairly consistently here. The football isn't always great, it's functional, but it also depends on the players available. When our best attacking flair players were fit we played some nice stuff, when they were injured it was pretty turgid. But we were almost always well organised and hard to play against.
Tactically, he is astute though some will say otherwise. He knows how the opposition play and is good at setting a side up to make things hard for them. He's not wedded to one formation, 4-4-2 was our most used formation under him but we played 3-5-2 a fair bit at times as well, also used 4-3-3 fairly often and 4-2-3-1 less often. We even played 4-2-4 for a few games when the only fit players we had were strikers and full backs.
His charm will last as long as results do. If he comes in and galvanises you, which he's very good at, and you start winning games then you'll love him. That starts to wear off when the results aren't great. [Post edited 25 Jan 2021 13:52]
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| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 13:52 - Jan 25 with 4155 views | artsbossbeard |
| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 13:45 - Jan 25 by FrimleyBlue |
Quite simply
Will win games, win the fans over - its not exciting, it's direct, hard to beat and will mainly be 1-0 or 2-1 wins.
Then will continue to win games, slowly begin to bore fans
then he will start losing whilst boring fans
then tell fans to fk off and then storm out of a press conference
All in all, enjoy the beginning Oh and his last 3 clubs all got relegated after he left. [Post edited 25 Jan 2021 13:46]
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People still getting panties bunched about the F*** off thing?
Sake. |  |
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| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 13:52 - Jan 25 with 4127 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 13:52 - Jan 25 by artsbossbeard |
People still getting panties bunched about the F*** off thing?
Sake. |
? he asked so I gave him a quick summary, which is exactly how it went. | |
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| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 13:53 - Jan 25 with 4134 views | Weekender |
To answer your q's...
>Direct and very pragmatic football - fine if the results come
>Arguably but he was effective with us for 2/3 seasons
>442, direct, picked his favourites at times, loved to have "proper blokes" in the team
>Not particularly
>He can pick a player to his credit
>Never much charm to loose but fine if you're winning.
Huws is an absolute shadow of the player we had on loan, injury really took its toll by the looks of think but then again none of our current squad look much good at the moment. [Post edited 25 Jan 2021 13:55]
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| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 13:53 - Jan 25 with 4126 views | nodge_blue |
I think you know the answers to most of those questions.
The football got very, very dull at Ipswich. We had a game at home against bottom of the league Burton where by half time we had failed to even have a shot on goal. And only about 2 by full time.
Its channel balls. Football by pragmatics.
I think Mick himself is a decent guy. He's probably someone as a player i'd have time for.
But I think he needs money to buy good players to suit his system.
With us the money plug was pulled and he just got more and more pragmatic, determined not to lose games rather than go out and be entertaining.
He could do ok. I suspect he won't wow you though. |  |
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| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 13:54 - Jan 25 with 4100 views | footers |
One thing I'll say about Mick is that he knows the market well, can usually spot a player and is very good with finding a bargain or two.
(Can anyone remember how much we paid for Waggy and Garner? Was less than £500k, wasn't it?)
He'll build a solid squad and root out any bad eggs. His man management is excellent, even if fans want him to come out and bollck the players, he won't. |  |
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| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 13:55 - Jan 25 with 4077 views | Hipsterectomy |
As a short-term option he will keep you up. Other than that, there's nothing to look forward to imho |  |
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| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 13:55 - Jan 25 with 4070 views | itfcjoe |
> What can we expect from him? Hoof and hope?
Honesty, players running through brick walls for him. Getting the best out of what you have
> Is he really a dinosaur?
He is very adpatable, but it will be a case of getting basics right in first instance
> What's his team setup and preferred formation/style of play?
Was a 442 mainly, pretty standard one, but wasn't tied to it
> Is he tactically astute?
Yes, he is one of the best touchline game managers I've seen, he is very good at staying one step ahead of opposition
> Transfer wise, does he have a 'type'?
British
> Finally, how long before the Northern charm wears off?
About 4 years here |  |
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| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 13:55 - Jan 25 with 4051 views | Darth_Koont |
Man-manager who together with Terry Connor gets more than most out of the available players.
So a lot depends on the existing players and addressing the problems you’re facing.
Tactically, he keeps it simple and isn’t afraid to get his best players on the pitch and make it work.
Clearly all the above can be an issue if it’s about taking the club to another level but should get you moving in the right direction.
His signings and faith in younger players were pretty good overall - and he made our squad much more valuable, more sustainable and a lot younger as time went on. So even if he can’t achieve what you want, he’ll likely not take the club backwards. Which in this day and age is an underrated positive. |  |
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| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 13:55 - Jan 25 with 4048 views | J4ck22 |
He will play solid, hard to beat football that will probably bore you guys. However he will most likely get you results. Expect some excellent bargain signings mixed with plenty of ones that don't amount to much. Dinosaur is harsh though, many fans here are still bitter because he rightly told them to F off once and we've amounted to nothing since we moved on.
Give him a bit of cash to play with and I think he'll get you promoted. That's the one thing he never had with us. | | | |
| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 13:55 - Jan 25 with 4051 views | BelsteadCav |
You’ll get lots of “top” blokes. They will put a shift in and must have a nickname. And they will probably be Irish.
Huws since his injury has been a massive let down. He may possibly be finished. |  |
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| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 13:56 - Jan 25 with 4032 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 13:55 - Jan 25 by itfcjoe |
> What can we expect from him? Hoof and hope?
Honesty, players running through brick walls for him. Getting the best out of what you have
> Is he really a dinosaur?
He is very adpatable, but it will be a case of getting basics right in first instance
> What's his team setup and preferred formation/style of play?
Was a 442 mainly, pretty standard one, but wasn't tied to it
> Is he tactically astute?
Yes, he is one of the best touchline game managers I've seen, he is very good at staying one step ahead of opposition
> Transfer wise, does he have a 'type'?
British
> Finally, how long before the Northern charm wears off?
About 4 years here |
Will be interesting to see if Keifer Moore becomes his Daryl Murphy. |  |
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| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 13:56 - Jan 25 with 4037 views | Wacko |
> What can we expect from him? Hoof and hope?
15th position.
> Is he really a dinosaur?
Yes. Of the Triassic period.
> What's his team setup and preferred formation/style of play?
He likes a big target man. Under McCarthy was the first time I remember not enjoying a game we won. In theory 442 with fast wingers but I think that was his Wolves legend preceding him
> Is he tactically astute?
He made us difficult to beat, if that's the same thing
> Transfer wise, does he have a 'type'?
He's definitely astute in the transfer market, I'll give him that. Can unearth some (very) lower league gems and always looked to bring in a flair player from the Prem (Ryan Fraser or Bersant Celina for example). Other than that he loves a workhorse
> Finally, how long before the Northern charm wears off?
A year or two, when you realise he's not taking you anywhere. Think of it like building a very well-oiled and functional machine that only he can operate. Once he goes, anyone else who tries to work it is f*ked | |
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| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 13:58 - Jan 25 with 3960 views | WD19 |
Depends if Cardiff fans appreciate a manager overachieving with the hand he has been dealt. If you don't, it might go sour after about 4 years of relative success.
Enjoy the play-offs next year. |  | | |
| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 13:58 - Jan 25 with 3956 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 13:56 - Jan 25 by Wacko |
> What can we expect from him? Hoof and hope?
15th position.
> Is he really a dinosaur?
Yes. Of the Triassic period.
> What's his team setup and preferred formation/style of play?
He likes a big target man. Under McCarthy was the first time I remember not enjoying a game we won. In theory 442 with fast wingers but I think that was his Wolves legend preceding him
> Is he tactically astute?
He made us difficult to beat, if that's the same thing
> Transfer wise, does he have a 'type'?
He's definitely astute in the transfer market, I'll give him that. Can unearth some (very) lower league gems and always looked to bring in a flair player from the Prem (Ryan Fraser or Bersant Celina for example). Other than that he loves a workhorse
> Finally, how long before the Northern charm wears off?
A year or two, when you realise he's not taking you anywhere. Think of it like building a very well-oiled and functional machine that only he can operate. Once he goes, anyone else who tries to work it is f*ked |
That last analogy was superb!! | |
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| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 13:58 - Jan 25 with 3954 views | usm |
You can expect a lot of "I dont give a flying one" during press conferences.
He'll get you playing effective football, hard to beat and boring. He loves a 1-0 win and an away draw (preferably 0-0). He'll make you competitive but dont expect to be entertained. |  |
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| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 14:00 - Jan 25 with 3908 views | footers |
Oh yeah, I hope you're not too keen on cup runs... | |
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| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 14:01 - Jan 25 with 3870 views | MattinLondon |
You can expect no nonsense defending with the midfield being bypassed. To be fair to Mick, whilst here, he always had exciting players upfront like McGoldrick, Murphy, Tom Lawarance. He values players with a very high work rate who are consistent.
He isn’t a dinosaur as such but his style isn’t fashionable - again, being fair to him, in the final third of the pitch we did knock it around a fair bit but do not expect free-flowing football.
Tactically astute, not easy to say yes or no to this. He’ll tend to beat a team managed by another old school manager. But when faced with someone more dynamic he’ll tend to come unstuck.
His charm will wear off - for someone who prides himself as a no-nonsense northerner he is quite thin skinned. At all his previous clubs, he will leave and because few managers play his way or favour his type of player then the incoming manager will struggle.
He does inspire huge amounts of loyality amongst his players who play much better than what their past form suggests. |  | | |
| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 14:02 - Jan 25 with 3862 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
> What can we expect from him? Hoof and hope?
Championship version of Big Sam.
> Is he really a dinosaur?
Championship version of Big Sam.
> What's his team setup and preferred formation/style of play?
Championship version of Big Sam.
> Is he tactically astute?
Championship version of Big Sam.
> Transfer wise, does he have a 'type'?
Championship version of Big Sam.
> Finally, how long before the Northern charm wears off?
Championship version of Big Sam.
Would love to get your thoughts and off topic, how's Emyr Huws doing? seems to have fallen off the face of the earth after a period out with injury. Permanently injured is probably more accurate. | |
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| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 14:05 - Jan 25 with 3804 views | Darth_Koont |
| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 13:58 - Jan 25 by Marshalls_Mullet |
That last analogy was superb!! |
But completely wrong.
McCarthy left a well-balanced, sustainable, young and even pretty valuable squad. Never going to be easy at the budget end of Championship spending for a new manager to come in and easily replicate our comfortable upper mid-table level under Mick. But in a combination of quality and football finances, he left the squad in the best place it’s been in since Prem relegation I’d say. | |
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| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 14:08 - Jan 25 with 3711 views | Bluefish |
He is the most beautiful man that has ever lived and a true gentleman.
Believe in him and he will perform heroics for you like he did for us. If you don't believe in him then it will go sour |  |
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| Cardiff Fan looking for the lowdown on 14:10 - Jan 25 with 3697 views | OsborneOneNil |
If a fans favourite player is on the bench, don't for heavens sake chant his name, MM will not bring him on just to pi55 everyone off.
MM likes to not lose. If you nick a winner then all the better. | | | |
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