| Neil Harris on the shortlist 12:33 - Feb 18 with 7949 views | chrismakin |
That's worse than Lambert. |  |
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| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:34 - Feb 18 with 4294 views | hype313 |
That really would be the kiss of death for any potential ST renewals. |  |
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| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:34 - Feb 18 with 4285 views | Herbivore |
When did you see the shortlist? Who else is on it?
I'm hoping we don't go for Neil Harris. Seems a decent guy but has done nothing as a manager. |  |
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| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:37 - Feb 18 with 4245 views | chrismakin |
| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:34 - Feb 18 by Herbivore |
When did you see the shortlist? Who else is on it?
I'm hoping we don't go for Neil Harris. Seems a decent guy but has done nothing as a manager. |
Just seen Philip mention hes been spoke to.
Sorry but if he got the job.. my word that's a bad time | |
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| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:38 - Feb 18 with 4215 views | N2_Blue |
It is and i despair.
But there is a bigger problem here.
Look at the comments of Lambert. and look at our feelings towards Evans. Then ask yourself what manager with any ounce of success and integrity is going to consider managing Ipswich Town.
If i was Cook or the Cowley's I'd go nowhere near it. We are far more likely to finish any managers career than them have a modicum of success and come out with reputation intact.
Basically we are screwed. I think out only hope is a former player yet to manage who loves the club (e.g. Dyer) in the hope they want the opportunity to be a hero with fans. That comes with a risk clearly and could see us continue our decline if it goes wrong but i don't see what else is feasible. [Post edited 18 Feb 2021 12:40]
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| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:39 - Feb 18 with 4197 views | Herbivore |
| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:37 - Feb 18 by chrismakin |
Just seen Philip mention hes been spoke to.
Sorry but if he got the job.. my word that's a bad time |
Ah yeah, I think Phil said his name had come up a few weeks ago actually. Christ, that's depressing. Appointing a manager who has just been sacked for not being very good isn't a great idea. Like I say, nice guy but he's shown nothing to suggest he's a decent manager. | |
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| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:39 - Feb 18 with 4197 views | SWGF |
Harris or Sherwood
I'm convinced of it |  |
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| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:39 - Feb 18 with 4176 views | OsborneOneNil |
| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:38 - Feb 18 by N2_Blue |
It is and i despair.
But there is a bigger problem here.
Look at the comments of Lambert. and look at our feelings towards Evans. Then ask yourself what manager with any ounce of success and integrity is going to consider managing Ipswich Town.
If i was Cook or the Cowley's I'd go nowhere near it. We are far more likely to finish any managers career than them have a modicum of success and come out with reputation intact.
Basically we are screwed. I think out only hope is a former player yet to manage who loves the club (e.g. Dyer) in the hope they want the opportunity to be a hero with fans. That comes with a risk clearly and could see us continue our decline if it goes wrong but i don't see what else is feasible. [Post edited 18 Feb 2021 12:40]
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Or, we get taken over soon and Pearson comes in to take us to the Prem in 2 years.
Ideal. |  | | |
| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:40 - Feb 18 with 4168 views | Herbivore |
| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:39 - Feb 18 by SWGF |
Harris or Sherwood
I'm convinced of it |
Why do you want to ruin my day? | |
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| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:43 - Feb 18 with 4117 views | N2_Blue |
| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:39 - Feb 18 by Herbivore |
Ah yeah, I think Phil said his name had come up a few weeks ago actually. Christ, that's depressing. Appointing a manager who has just been sacked for not being very good isn't a great idea. Like I say, nice guy but he's shown nothing to suggest he's a decent manager. |
Herbs, how are we going to get a decent manager?
What decent manager is going to be interested in managing this club based on the grave yard of managers over the last 12 years, the lack of structure in the club, having an owner that is clearly more of a problem behind the scenes than is publicly known.
We are in L1 with a monumental amount of issues. Decent managers will not be here. It's either inexperienced or someone trying to attempt to get their careers started again because no one else will touch them.
That is depressing but its the reality | |
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| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:44 - Feb 18 with 4090 views | DanTheMan |
| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:39 - Feb 18 by SWGF |
Harris or Sherwood
I'm convinced of it |
I think I'd just give up caring if either of those happened.
It would be such a bad reading of the room by ME that I can't bring myself to imagine what it would be like. |  |
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| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:45 - Feb 18 with 4090 views | N2_Blue |
| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:39 - Feb 18 by OsborneOneNil |
Or, we get taken over soon and Pearson comes in to take us to the Prem in 2 years.
Ideal. |
erm, and which is more likely.
We are not getting taken over. Evans isn't selling. There is some crap behind the scenes and Evans is lost, but he is no nearer selling up than anytime before | |
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| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:48 - Feb 18 with 4040 views | jayessess |
| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:43 - Feb 18 by N2_Blue |
Herbs, how are we going to get a decent manager?
What decent manager is going to be interested in managing this club based on the grave yard of managers over the last 12 years, the lack of structure in the club, having an owner that is clearly more of a problem behind the scenes than is publicly known.
We are in L1 with a monumental amount of issues. Decent managers will not be here. It's either inexperienced or someone trying to attempt to get their careers started again because no one else will touch them.
That is depressing but its the reality |
I think you're over-thinking this. Paul Lambert got given a lot of time and a very generous salary. He's left the club in a woeful position relative to its resources.
Time, money and a high likelihood that even without much effort you'll improve on your predecessor. If it goes wrong, you can point to the club being a basket case.
Who wouldn't be interested in a free hit for £0.5m a year? |  |
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| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:53 - Feb 18 with 3986 views | Radlett_blue |
| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:43 - Feb 18 by N2_Blue |
Herbs, how are we going to get a decent manager?
What decent manager is going to be interested in managing this club based on the grave yard of managers over the last 12 years, the lack of structure in the club, having an owner that is clearly more of a problem behind the scenes than is publicly known.
We are in L1 with a monumental amount of issues. Decent managers will not be here. It's either inexperienced or someone trying to attempt to get their careers started again because no one else will touch them.
That is depressing but its the reality |
We're playing roulette. I doubt that the likes of Nigel Pearson would come here, but Sheffield United lucked out with Chris Wilder so I think trying someone from the lower leagues is our best bet of hitting the jackpot. didn't work with Paul Hurst, unfortunately, but every managerial appointment is something of a gamble. |  |
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| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:56 - Feb 18 with 3945 views | davblue |
| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:38 - Feb 18 by N2_Blue |
It is and i despair.
But there is a bigger problem here.
Look at the comments of Lambert. and look at our feelings towards Evans. Then ask yourself what manager with any ounce of success and integrity is going to consider managing Ipswich Town.
If i was Cook or the Cowley's I'd go nowhere near it. We are far more likely to finish any managers career than them have a modicum of success and come out with reputation intact.
Basically we are screwed. I think out only hope is a former player yet to manage who loves the club (e.g. Dyer) in the hope they want the opportunity to be a hero with fans. That comes with a risk clearly and could see us continue our decline if it goes wrong but i don't see what else is feasible. [Post edited 18 Feb 2021 12:40]
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Dyer needs to steer clear of the job at the minute, it's not the right time.
He wouldn't turn it down but unless he's brilliant at every facet of his job he will fail here, there's no structure or support for an experienced manager let alone a rookie. |  | | |
| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:56 - Feb 18 with 3937 views | itfcjoe |
| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:43 - Feb 18 by N2_Blue |
Herbs, how are we going to get a decent manager?
What decent manager is going to be interested in managing this club based on the grave yard of managers over the last 12 years, the lack of structure in the club, having an owner that is clearly more of a problem behind the scenes than is publicly known.
We are in L1 with a monumental amount of issues. Decent managers will not be here. It's either inexperienced or someone trying to attempt to get their careers started again because no one else will touch them.
That is depressing but its the reality |
Lambert is just bigging this up to try and save face - every manager who has been appointed by Evans has liked working here and stayed on good terms with him after thier exit, lambert will be no different despite this attempt to save face now |  |
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| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:59 - Feb 18 with 3905 views | N2_Blue |
| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:48 - Feb 18 by jayessess |
I think you're over-thinking this. Paul Lambert got given a lot of time and a very generous salary. He's left the club in a woeful position relative to its resources.
Time, money and a high likelihood that even without much effort you'll improve on your predecessor. If it goes wrong, you can point to the club being a basket case.
Who wouldn't be interested in a free hit for £0.5m a year? |
Other than McCarthy who has improved on their predecessor? And Mcarthy was an ex International manager with proven calibre.
There is so such thing as a free hit. Evans probably is going to pay a decent salary to a manager again as he realises he doesn't get anything for it.
I think we will find it very hard to bring in someone fans are happy and can unite behind unfortunately. It's going to be an incredibly underwhelming appointment when it does happen....but then they can't really do any worse....or can they? Everyone assumed relegation would stop our decline...we are too big a club etc. Well we haven't stopped that decline yet and are only heading one way. L2 is near than Championship | |
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| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:59 - Feb 18 with 3896 views | Coco |
If he gets it then it proves once and for all that everything Evans says is just mere rhetoric. |  |
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| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 13:02 - Feb 18 with 3869 views | MattinLondon |
| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:56 - Feb 18 by davblue |
Dyer needs to steer clear of the job at the minute, it's not the right time.
He wouldn't turn it down but unless he's brilliant at every facet of his job he will fail here, there's no structure or support for an experienced manager let alone a rookie. |
Flip side being - he knows the players, watches them play regularly so will have his own views on what can be improved. Is probably well liked in football so will be on good terms with managers.
Played under managers who like playing football. |  | | |
| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 13:04 - Feb 18 with 3830 views | davblue |
| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 13:02 - Feb 18 by MattinLondon |
Flip side being - he knows the players, watches them play regularly so will have his own views on what can be improved. Is probably well liked in football so will be on good terms with managers.
Played under managers who like playing football. |
It would be a massive risk for him and us.
His managerial career could be finished before it even starts. There's a right time and wrong time to take a job. For him professionally i personally think it would be with the state of the club and the job he would have to do.
He couldn't turn it down i suspect and he could be a roaring success. | | | |
| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 13:05 - Feb 18 with 3816 views | jayessess |
| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:59 - Feb 18 by N2_Blue |
Other than McCarthy who has improved on their predecessor? And Mcarthy was an ex International manager with proven calibre.
There is so such thing as a free hit. Evans probably is going to pay a decent salary to a manager again as he realises he doesn't get anything for it.
I think we will find it very hard to bring in someone fans are happy and can unite behind unfortunately. It's going to be an incredibly underwhelming appointment when it does happen....but then they can't really do any worse....or can they? Everyone assumed relegation would stop our decline...we are too big a club etc. Well we haven't stopped that decline yet and are only heading one way. L2 is near than Championship |
None of our other managers inherited the club halfway down a league full of much smaller clubs with far fewer resources. As a manager, you'd have to be astonishingly lacking in confidence to imagine you'd make a greater hash of it than Lambert has.
Like I say, the pay cheque and the job security are, in themselves, a massive attraction. [Post edited 18 Feb 2021 13:08]
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| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 13:06 - Feb 18 with 3803 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
What shortlist? |  |
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| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 13:07 - Feb 18 with 3787 views | hadleighboyblue |
| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 12:56 - Feb 18 by davblue |
Dyer needs to steer clear of the job at the minute, it's not the right time.
He wouldn't turn it down but unless he's brilliant at every facet of his job he will fail here, there's no structure or support for an experienced manager let alone a rookie. |
Agree it's not the right time for Dyer .
Too much of a mess to sort out , including players out of contract and others we need to get rid of , it's a major overhaul .
If he was to take it , it would be essential that he had a great team of people working with him that he could trust .
People that care about ITFC would make a nice change too . |  | | |
| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 13:07 - Feb 18 with 3781 views | alfie2002 |
Didn’t he get Millwall out of league one? | | | |
| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 13:10 - Feb 18 with 3752 views | Paramedic |
I don’t think there is a short list at all. I think he’s going to let Lambert go on and on and allow the club to rot further and further into decline. Really worried about what the future holds for this club right now. |  |
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| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 13:13 - Feb 18 with 3703 views | itfcjoe |
| Neil Harris on the shortlist on 13:04 - Feb 18 by davblue |
It would be a massive risk for him and us.
His managerial career could be finished before it even starts. There's a right time and wrong time to take a job. For him professionally i personally think it would be with the state of the club and the job he would have to do.
He couldn't turn it down i suspect and he could be a roaring success. |
There's never a good time to take a job - the chances of Dyer getting a job at this level in his whole career are minimal in reality, he would be desperate for it.
Look at someone like Sol Campbell, did a terriffic job at Macclesfield and ends up at Southend who were utterly awful and now he's tarnished again. Bellamy is Mr Keen to get a job, he was at Cardiff U18s, now at Anderlecht U21s. Joey Barton starts at Fleetwood.
The only chance Dyer has to get a job of this size is here, and being right place right time, or blowing the doors off at a club below us where the constraints will be massive. | |
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