| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! 09:50 - Feb 22 with 3096 views | homer_123 |
'The work led by Public Health Scotland found by the fourth week after the first dose hospitalisations were reduced by 85% and 94% for the Pfizer and AstraZeneca jabs respectively.'
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| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 09:52 - Feb 22 with 1549 views | GlasgowBlue |
Yeah but we are cutting corners and are human guinea pigs according to banksy. |  |
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| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 11:59 - Feb 22 with 1460 views | BlueBadger |
| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 09:52 - Feb 22 by GlasgowBlue |
Yeah but we are cutting corners and are human guinea pigs according to banksy. |
I'm sure that Plague Harry will be along shortly to tell us that it's actually all down to better public health or something. And then show us a graph which he thinks demonstrates his point but actually disproves it. |  |
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| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 12:27 - Feb 22 with 1422 views | PhantomsBelievers |
There is the small matter that an awful lot of us have been in various tiers or locked down for a signficant part of the study period, so results are bound to look 'spectacular' against such a backdrop.
I'm not saying the experimental vaccine(s) haven't had an effect, but if the majority are indoors the fourth week after the first dose, then hospitalisations are bound to be reduced.
I doubt the reduction will be solely attributable to the experimental vaccine(s). [Post edited 22 Feb 2021 12:28]
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| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 12:34 - Feb 22 with 1400 views | StokieBlue |
| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 12:27 - Feb 22 by PhantomsBelievers |
There is the small matter that an awful lot of us have been in various tiers or locked down for a signficant part of the study period, so results are bound to look 'spectacular' against such a backdrop.
I'm not saying the experimental vaccine(s) haven't had an effect, but if the majority are indoors the fourth week after the first dose, then hospitalisations are bound to be reduced.
I doubt the reduction will be solely attributable to the experimental vaccine(s). [Post edited 22 Feb 2021 12:28]
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That isn't what the study was about, it was specifically about those who entered hospital in the period and what vaccines they had or hadn't been given:
"The study looked at the numbers being admitted to hospital with Covid among this population and compared it to those admitted who were not vaccinated."
So being in lockdown has no relevance as it is looking at cases once they have been admitted, not comparing cases from before vaccinations and lockdown and after.
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| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 13:41 - Feb 22 with 1327 views | J2BLUE |
Remarkable results. There are some incredibly talented people across this planet. |  |
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| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 13:46 - Feb 22 with 1324 views | BlueBadger |
| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 12:27 - Feb 22 by PhantomsBelievers |
There is the small matter that an awful lot of us have been in various tiers or locked down for a signficant part of the study period, so results are bound to look 'spectacular' against such a backdrop.
I'm not saying the experimental vaccine(s) haven't had an effect, but if the majority are indoors the fourth week after the first dose, then hospitalisations are bound to be reduced.
I doubt the reduction will be solely attributable to the experimental vaccine(s). [Post edited 22 Feb 2021 12:28]
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Pssst: they're not 'experimental' if they've passed testing, etc and have been licensed. They're simply 'new'. [Post edited 22 Feb 2021 14:00]
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| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 13:48 - Feb 22 with 1304 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 12:27 - Feb 22 by PhantomsBelievers |
There is the small matter that an awful lot of us have been in various tiers or locked down for a signficant part of the study period, so results are bound to look 'spectacular' against such a backdrop.
I'm not saying the experimental vaccine(s) haven't had an effect, but if the majority are indoors the fourth week after the first dose, then hospitalisations are bound to be reduced.
I doubt the reduction will be solely attributable to the experimental vaccine(s). [Post edited 22 Feb 2021 12:28]
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Why do you keep adding the superfluous word "experimental"? |  |
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| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 14:06 - Feb 22 with 1276 views | m14_blue |
| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 13:48 - Feb 22 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Why do you keep adding the superfluous word "experimental"? |
Because he is one edgy edgelord. | | | |
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| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 14:07 - Feb 22 with 1267 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 14:06 - Feb 22 by m14_blue |
Because he is one edgy edgelord. |
He should chance his name to Edgy McEdgeface. | |
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| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 14:19 - Feb 22 with 1234 views | Steve_M |
It is good news, it has been suggested though that the big numbers may be unhelpful as cases increased slightly in weeks 5 and 6 compared to week 4. Data will be lumpy though until the overall number gets large enough to be more meaningful.
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| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 14:25 - Feb 22 with 1209 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 09:52 - Feb 22 by GlasgowBlue |
Yeah but we are cutting corners and are human guinea pigs according to banksy. |
Lol... wouldn't expect you to appreciate healthy debate over dogged compliance, however you will be thrilled to know that as of next Sunday I will be a fully paid up guinea pig and pushing for Lambert In. |  |
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| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 14:28 - Feb 22 with 1200 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 13:41 - Feb 22 by J2BLUE |
Remarkable results. There are some incredibly talented people across this planet. |
Is what they said about the person who invented thalidomide, a host of insecticides, pesticides etc.... | |
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| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 14:29 - Feb 22 with 1192 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 13:46 - Feb 22 by BlueBadger |
Pssst: they're not 'experimental' if they've passed testing, etc and have been licensed. They're simply 'new'. [Post edited 22 Feb 2021 14:00]
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See above.... | |
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| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 14:30 - Feb 22 with 1182 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 14:28 - Feb 22 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Is what they said about the person who invented thalidomide, a host of insecticides, pesticides etc.... |
I rather think science has moved on a tad since... | |
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| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 14:32 - Feb 22 with 1173 views | clive_baker |
I won’t believe it until Macron tells me it’s true. |  |
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| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 14:33 - Feb 22 with 1167 views | Churchman |
| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 14:25 - Feb 22 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Lol... wouldn't expect you to appreciate healthy debate over dogged compliance, however you will be thrilled to know that as of next Sunday I will be a fully paid up guinea pig and pushing for Lambert In. |
Excellent! Good for you. My vax-envy increases by the day!
What is heartening is that the data that is emerging is positive. I tend for look for trends in things rather than specifics and all indicators look positive. Ok, there are uncertainties with timescales, new variants etc, but in terms of what is known and what the clever people (incl scientists etc) are doing, knowledge and progress is being made and that’s as good as it gets. |  | | |
| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 14:33 - Feb 22 with 1165 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 14:30 - Feb 22 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I rather think science has moved on a tad since... |
Is what they said to BDS's Dad via the Birmingham City forum messenger pigeon when he expressed that caution should be exercised over the rush to breathe in all those lovely farm sprays! | |
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| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 14:37 - Feb 22 with 1145 views | NthQldITFC |
| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 12:27 - Feb 22 by PhantomsBelievers |
There is the small matter that an awful lot of us have been in various tiers or locked down for a signficant part of the study period, so results are bound to look 'spectacular' against such a backdrop.
I'm not saying the experimental vaccine(s) haven't had an effect, but if the majority are indoors the fourth week after the first dose, then hospitalisations are bound to be reduced.
I doubt the reduction will be solely attributable to the experimental vaccine(s). [Post edited 22 Feb 2021 12:28]
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Spectacularly well misunderstood. |  |
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| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 14:37 - Feb 22 with 1142 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 14:33 - Feb 22 by Churchman |
Excellent! Good for you. My vax-envy increases by the day!
What is heartening is that the data that is emerging is positive. I tend for look for trends in things rather than specifics and all indicators look positive. Ok, there are uncertainties with timescales, new variants etc, but in terms of what is known and what the clever people (incl scientists etc) are doing, knowledge and progress is being made and that’s as good as it gets. |
Cheers, I do find it a little depressing that offering the less acceptable side of a debate is taken to represent a fixed contrarian position. I have to admit I was surprised at the speed at which I was offered the vaccine (aged 56) particularly after Suffolk's slow start. | |
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| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 14:39 - Feb 22 with 1134 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 14:37 - Feb 22 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Cheers, I do find it a little depressing that offering the less acceptable side of a debate is taken to represent a fixed contrarian position. I have to admit I was surprised at the speed at which I was offered the vaccine (aged 56) particularly after Suffolk's slow start. |
Same age as me and at least six to eight weeks ahead of me in getting vaccinated. Yeah Scotland's doing great. | |
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| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 14:44 - Feb 22 with 1109 views | m14_blue |
| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 14:33 - Feb 22 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Is what they said to BDS's Dad via the Birmingham City forum messenger pigeon when he expressed that caution should be exercised over the rush to breathe in all those lovely farm sprays! |
Birmingham City?????
Always knew there was something dodgy about you. | | | |
| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 14:48 - Feb 22 with 1099 views | itfcjoe |
| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 14:39 - Feb 22 by GlasgowBlue |
Same age as me and at least six to eight weeks ahead of me in getting vaccinated. Yeah Scotland's doing great. |
On the flip side my Mum is 62 and was offered it on Saturday, whilst friends of hers in their 50s had it a couple of weeks ago.
It's all a bit of a muddle, due to how the system works with smaller GPs, and the big hubs of them - the smaller ones been more nimble and flying through their patients. |  |
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| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 14:50 - Feb 22 with 1091 views | Churchman |
| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 14:37 - Feb 22 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Cheers, I do find it a little depressing that offering the less acceptable side of a debate is taken to represent a fixed contrarian position. I have to admit I was surprised at the speed at which I was offered the vaccine (aged 56) particularly after Suffolk's slow start. |
Indeed, they’ve done well. I was about to trample all over the Suffolk Coastal MP when they were slow offering my dad an appointment and here am I living in Kent, a little older than you, with nothing! Haha
Seriously, what is good is that there is flexibility built into the roll out because the objective has to be as many people as fast of possible, now they’ve tackled a high % of those most at risk. Big thumbs up to all the lads and lasses doing the do. I gather the initial problem in Suffolk was storage of Pfizer vaccine. There just wasn’t enough places to store it. [Post edited 22 Feb 2021 14:51]
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| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 14:50 - Feb 22 with 1090 views | m14_blue |
| Bloody vaccines....who need 'em! on 14:48 - Feb 22 by itfcjoe |
On the flip side my Mum is 62 and was offered it on Saturday, whilst friends of hers in their 50s had it a couple of weeks ago.
It's all a bit of a muddle, due to how the system works with smaller GPs, and the big hubs of them - the smaller ones been more nimble and flying through their patients. |
Frustrating on a personal level but entirely understandable and inevitable on a macro one. | | | |
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