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Complacency and acceptance of...... on 10:09 - Feb 25 by The_Flashing_Smile
You neither understand gallows humour... or support. There was nothing we, as supporters, could do to stop the slide. So we stood in the face of adversity and supported our hearts out. It might've helped - certainly more than booing would have.
The various protests now (as much as we can due to Covid) show that the support doesn't just blindly accept mediocrity.
.....that after 2 years of acceptance of mediocrity "some" of the fanbase have finally realised what was obvious at the time.
But don't worry, everything will be alright.
"He's been a really positive influence on my life, I think he's a great man" - TWTD User (May 2025)
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"Don't worry, about a thing..... on 10:15 - Feb 25 with 550 views
"Don't worry, about a thing..... on 09:47 - Feb 25 by The_Flashing_Smile
Yeah, dickweeds for supporting their club. The shame.
Oh yeah it is so commendable to be clapping and cheering all of those wasters for the relegation and its manner. Both manager and players as they ought to have been obliterated following the relegation.
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Muffin Man just after booting us into the third division, loves it doesn't he!!! on 10:15 - Feb 25 with 545 views
Muffin Man just after booting us into the third division, loves it doesn't he!!! on 10:06 - Feb 25 by Bluefish
Just so we are clear...are you suggesting
A) I didn't stand up against the Mick abuse
B) I didn't raise the fact Lambert could (and probably should) have saved us
C) I didn't raise the fact that we were going overboard for PL is a blue when he had showed no evidence of succeeding here
I don’t know why you’re making it all about you but here goes.
1. The Mick abuse was wrong and yes, you stood up to it. 2. No idea what you mean by that. Yes, Lambert should have kept us up. 3. Sorry, I don’t remember all of your posts from two and a bit years ago. If you say that you raised that point but I have no reason to doubt you.
I still don’t know why you’re making it all about you.
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"Don't worry, about a thing..... on 10:17 - Feb 25 with 537 views
I'm not judging it retrospectively.... on 10:09 - Feb 25 by Bloots
....I judged it at the time, as most people know.
That's not "really bad form", it wasn't even prophetic, it was obvious to anyone who wasn't blinded by Lambert's posturing and PR.
Now we appear to have a fanbase that are getting giddy about the prospect of the club being taken over by a US based consortium that have a background in property development.
The writing is on the wall.
The bad form is abusing your fellow fans with the term "dickweeds", not being prescient enough to see thru the BS.
If course again hindsight is in your favour, I'm sorry but my tiny unemployed brain hasn't retained your published stance at the time.
The facts (my perception) at the time: - Lambert given a free pass - Lambert did an excellent PR job - ST sales were better than season before - Generally a positive feel about the place - the majority bought the emperors new clothes
I don't mind being wrong (frequently), I do mind people being abusive about it.
Muffin Man just after booting us into the third division, loves it doesn't he!!! on 10:17 - Feb 25 by MattinLondon
I don’t know why you’re making it all about you but here goes.
1. The Mick abuse was wrong and yes, you stood up to it. 2. No idea what you mean by that. Yes, Lambert should have kept us up. 3. Sorry, I don’t remember all of your posts from two and a bit years ago. If you say that you raised that point but I have no reason to doubt you.
I still don’t know why you’re making it all about you.
Who were you making it about? From i can see it can only be aimed at .e or bloots. Do explain ad maybe I can try to understand the point you were trying to make
I'm not judging it retrospectively.... on 10:17 - Feb 25 by Pendejo
The bad form is abusing your fellow fans with the term "dickweeds", not being prescient enough to see thru the BS.
If course again hindsight is in your favour, I'm sorry but my tiny unemployed brain hasn't retained your published stance at the time.
The facts (my perception) at the time: - Lambert given a free pass - Lambert did an excellent PR job - ST sales were better than season before - Generally a positive feel about the place - the majority bought the emperors new clothes
I don't mind being wrong (frequently), I do mind people being abusive about it.
....quite comfortably replace the word "hindsight" with the word "history" in this case.
(I think "dickweed" is relatively light hearted, apologies to the dickweeds if it offends them)
"He's been a really positive influence on my life, I think he's a great man" - TWTD User (May 2025)
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The club was mediocre.... on 10:28 - Feb 25 with 501 views
The club was mediocre.... on 10:28 - Feb 25 by Bloots
...the fanbase was complacent.
Hence the majority didn't see it.
Using the word "Complacent" would appear indicate the fans had any control over anything.
Collectively (the majority) placed their (blind) faith in the owner, manager, coaching staff and the players to bring us straight back.
The only tangible thing that the fans can do is provide support; be that vocal and / or financial - which we did
Then when it became clear to the majority that we were flattering to receive the overall mood changes.
Let's face it even when we were top we did not look like a decent team, the others were simply worse than us.
Bravo to those who never got in line behind PRP, but then I spoke to town fans in 2014/15 who were not behind MM, and if I'm honest, having grown up with Robson's teams, enjoyed Lyall, loved Burley, I could see their point. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
But then on this very website, turn back the clock to 1998 and there were those exposing Burley's shortfalls.
I remember us having a chat at an away match.... on 10:34 - Feb 25 by Bloots
....maybe Reading?
He'd been in the job for a couple of months,
We were winning at the time, but we both agreed he was a hopeless appointment even then.
Apparently that's hindsight!
Hmm equating a private chat at a football match a few years ago with the published word here today.
I apologise wholeheartedly and unreservedly being unaware of your stance then, my only issue has been expressed and answered elsewhere.
United we stand divided we fall. We can be united whilst holding different opinions / views but the moment disparaging terms are thrown about it gets divisive.
Muffin Man just after booting us into the third division, loves it doesn't he!!! on 10:15 - Feb 25 by SitfcB
Very, very cringeworthy at the time.
Again context
Many years ago I attended a CL match at Ibrox and, as a neutral, found the behaviour of the Rangers fans cringeworthy, whilst at the same time recognising myself at a Town game.
I find my own dancing to be cringeworthy, so I don't do it, but won't criticise others for dancing, even if I think I may be better than them...
Bear with me two secs, because as a coach of others, I encounter the odd parent who'll be negative at every opportunity, who'll moan and eevrything is an issue. They always proclaim to know the problem, but only offer knowing the problem and never a solution.
Sadly, I've never yet seen the child of a parent like that who's gone on to be successful beyond their natural advantages. They get overtaken by those who embrace adversity, get off their backsides and stick an arm around those around them.
Those supporters who clapped, they weren't happy clappers, they were hurting, but at that point, they didn't go and cry into their cornflakes, they made the very best of a the very worst situation and there's nothing wrong with that.
I for one hope and pray we have an atmosphere like that again at Portman Road before the year is out. If everyone sat and moaned, it would be a pretty awful place to be permanently, you need those who stand up and make the most of the best.
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Muffin Man just after booting us into the third division, loves it doesn't he!!! on 11:29 - Feb 25 with 396 views
Great effort at trying to find something but not sure what this tells you? This was Dec 18, of course we should be supporting
I have never said we shouldn't support I just found it baffling that the suppory was so heavily geared towards the bloke that was failing us opposed to the club. Singing ipswich till I die is great support but singing PL is a blue when he has limply relegated us is tin pot
Muffin Man just after booting us into the third division, loves it doesn't he!!! on 11:35 - Feb 25 by Bluefish
Great effort at trying to find something but not sure what this tells you? This was Dec 18, of course we should be supporting
I have never said we shouldn't support I just found it baffling that the suppory was so heavily geared towards the bloke that was failing us opposed to the club. Singing ipswich till I die is great support but singing PL is a blue when he has limply relegated us is tin pot
PL has limply relegated us...
But the players are free of criticism aren't they?
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Muffin Man just after booting us into the third division, loves it doesn't he!!! on 11:42 - Feb 25 with 367 views
Muffin Man just after booting us into the third division, loves it doesn't he!!! on 11:35 - Feb 25 by Bluefish
Great effort at trying to find something but not sure what this tells you? This was Dec 18, of course we should be supporting
I have never said we shouldn't support I just found it baffling that the suppory was so heavily geared towards the bloke that was failing us opposed to the club. Singing ipswich till I die is great support but singing PL is a blue when he has limply relegated us is tin pot
The point was though that he was never going to be sacked. So the option was to support him and the team with the following season being in league 1 and a promotion push or to call for his head ag the start and go into league 1 in a horrible midst of players and manager vs the fans.
I didn’t like his appointment really at the time, nor did I like how he performed in the season we went down but that didn’t stop me trying to back the team. Even if that included a few Lambert is a blue chants along the way.
The atmosphere in the relegation season was the only positive of that whole year so using it now as a stick to beat the fans with is monumentally unfair.
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