| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight 03:43 - Mar 8 with 12887 views | Illinoisblue |
Definitely tune in if you’d like to hear a privileged wealthy couple piss and moan for an hour. |  |
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| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 09:05 - Mar 8 with 2975 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 07:56 - Mar 8 by BanksterDebtSlave |
If only you were a man with mixed race in your family history, married to a woman of mixed race etc..etc...I guess some institutions are more important than others. |
Are you going to sit down and watch the whole interview banksy? Or like me, have you seen enough from the snippets in the news to consider that MM feels very strongly that she has been a victim of racism and deserves the right to speak out against the racism. |  |
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| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 09:05 - Mar 8 with 2995 views | itfcjoe |
| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 09:02 - Mar 8 by DanTheMan |
I expect they feel harshly done by and wanted to get their side of the story out by talking about it with someone they trust.
Whether it's badly advised or not, my point was that the privacy invasions they were talking about (which everyone is giving them stick for) are because of the relentlessness of the British media in regards to the Royals.
I don't think they ever wanted to fully disassociate, that's not the impression I got although I know little about it. |
Apparently this is their last word about it and we won't be hearing from them again about it......
Let's see how that goes, if that is the case then fair enough - but does anyone expect it to be? |  |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 09:08 - Mar 8 with 2968 views | MattinLondon |
| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 09:05 - Mar 8 by itfcjoe |
Apparently this is their last word about it and we won't be hearing from them again about it......
Let's see how that goes, if that is the case then fair enough - but does anyone expect it to be? |
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| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 09:10 - Mar 8 with 2954 views | WeWereZombies |
| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 08:11 - Mar 8 by Swailsey |
Assume you are, or you wouldn’t have asked.
I am not a royalist at all, and I have no particular fondness for MM, but I just find it stunning that an interview with a female discussing her mental health, dark thoughts, and horrendous rumblings, coupled with the Royal Family’s drive mentality yesterday to close ranks, is being largely ignored because “they wanted privacy”. She is a human, a mother, someone with feelings.
To be clear - I don’t have any love for PH or MM, but you add in the Diana parts, it’s just so unsavoury.
The Royal Family are poison and a throwback to a time that reflects very badly on us.
IMO of course - I know it won’t be for everyone and there will be downvotes! |
Thanks, that's much better. From the cursory 'state of this thread' I assumed you were a Royalist who despised any criticism of that institution.
For what it is worth, I don't see that having a hereditary Queen or King as Sovereign is a poison, or even a throwback. It's quite useful to have a head of state unconcerned with the day to day running of a nation, or a union of four countries, or a commonwealth that consists of some states who have a monarch as head of state and other who do not. The problem, in England especially, is the number of hangers on (salaried and unsalaried) creating obfustication around sovereignty and clamouring for some intrinsic right where there is none. Without that defect then I think monarchy is preferable to, for example the United States and French models, having a President who can meddle in the intentions of representatives. This often creates confusion and gives the impression of a lack of direction and reliability to observers from more straightforward democracies. |  |
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| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 09:12 - Mar 8 with 2934 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 09:05 - Mar 8 by itfcjoe |
Apparently this is their last word about it and we won't be hearing from them again about it......
Let's see how that goes, if that is the case then fair enough - but does anyone expect it to be? |
I don’t see how they can leave it hanging. An allegation of racism has been made against a member or members of the Royal family. Those allegation should be taken seriously.
But it’s only fair that the person is named so that speculation doesn’t fall unfairly on those who are innocent of the accusation.
The press won’t leave this alone and they will find out who this person is. The a royal family will have no choice but to respond. It’s going to get ugly. | |
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| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 09:25 - Mar 8 with 2875 views | eireblue |
| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 09:02 - Mar 8 by DanTheMan |
I expect they feel harshly done by and wanted to get their side of the story out by talking about it with someone they trust.
Whether it's badly advised or not, my point was that the privacy invasions they were talking about (which everyone is giving them stick for) are because of the relentlessness of the British media in regards to the Royals.
I don't think they ever wanted to fully disassociate, that's not the impression I got although I know little about it. |
I think you are correct.
Their initial statement, that started this off, didn’t mention privacy.
Back in 2017 Harry said he would like to live a normal life. But acknowledged that he would have to work out a role for himself.
I have a suspicion that the narrative of “hah look at the people that wanted privacy, being interviewed”, is being used by a media machine looking to sell “news”.
I think I have read that Harry would like a private life for his family, which will include his children.
It seems to me that people in the public eye, actors, sports stars, etc., and their families should have some form of private life.
Harry didn’t choose to be born into the Royal Family. |  | | |
| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 09:26 - Mar 8 with 2872 views | WeWereZombies |
| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 08:07 - Mar 8 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Who would have thought that the institution at the historical core of exporting white power and class privilege around the world could have this rather large card laid against them! Rule Britannia. |
Not sure that the British Royal family are alone in 'the export of white power and class privilege', they had not even unified the Scottish and English crowns when the age of exploration was kicked off by the Portuguese and Marco Polo. Class privilege is not even exclusively European and you may want to ponder what effects British rule in India had with regard to a type of reflux from the caste system infesting life back home. Also the role of the Christian church in 'civilising' the World shouldn't be laid at the door of the Royals in my opinion, they don't even like the biggest Christian denomination...
When it come to white power consider where the Ku Klux Klan got the idea for their hoods from. I know you wern't expecting the Spanish Inquiition in this thread but, there again, no one expects... | |
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| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 09:27 - Mar 8 with 2873 views | bluelagos |
| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 09:12 - Mar 8 by GlasgowBlue |
I don’t see how they can leave it hanging. An allegation of racism has been made against a member or members of the Royal family. Those allegation should be taken seriously.
But it’s only fair that the person is named so that speculation doesn’t fall unfairly on those who are innocent of the accusation.
The press won’t leave this alone and they will find out who this person is. The a royal family will have no choice but to respond. It’s going to get ugly. |
I think they will do all they can to simply ride it out, their cheerleaders were on TV this morning spouting about Prince Phillip being ill and it not being the right time to have the conversation.
Which begs the question, when is the right time to have the conversation?
If we accept the police were/are institutionally racist, the home office were/are institutionally racist, why would anyone think the Royals aren't? And much like discussing racism within the police/home office is deeply uncomfortable for their cheerleaders, so it will be for Monarchists who remain blind to their many failings.
Some institutions are clearly not fit for purpose, but those with vested interests are hardly the ones to reform them. Or you just plaster over far more serious issues imho. [Post edited 8 Mar 2021 9:52]
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| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 09:43 - Mar 8 with 2822 views | Guthrum |
| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 09:10 - Mar 8 by WeWereZombies |
Thanks, that's much better. From the cursory 'state of this thread' I assumed you were a Royalist who despised any criticism of that institution.
For what it is worth, I don't see that having a hereditary Queen or King as Sovereign is a poison, or even a throwback. It's quite useful to have a head of state unconcerned with the day to day running of a nation, or a union of four countries, or a commonwealth that consists of some states who have a monarch as head of state and other who do not. The problem, in England especially, is the number of hangers on (salaried and unsalaried) creating obfustication around sovereignty and clamouring for some intrinsic right where there is none. Without that defect then I think monarchy is preferable to, for example the United States and French models, having a President who can meddle in the intentions of representatives. This often creates confusion and gives the impression of a lack of direction and reliability to observers from more straightforward democracies. |
Or, indeed, the German/Israeli/Irish model, with a non-executive President, but which seems equally subject to corruption, scandal and the occasional dubious statement. With the added expense of elections. |  |
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| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 10:02 - Mar 8 with 2784 views | Guthrum |
| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 08:36 - Mar 8 by Deano69 |
While the decision itself to exclude themselves from ‘Royal Life’ in search of being themselves must have been a difficult decision, particularly for Prince Harry, equally the decision to then talk about it with Oprah and James Corden will be seen as somewhat inappropriate. Hardly the right way to start your new life of relative anonymity. |
I don't think they wanted anonymity, but rather the chance to make a life away from the intense hothouse which is the rigid structure and media frenzy of royal existence.
There have been plenty of examples of those for whom the strain got too much (Margaret, Diana, very nearly Charles). Anne was the most sensible, in taking her children as far out of the system as possible, refusing titles, etc. | |
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| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 10:14 - Mar 8 with 2763 views | eireblue |
| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 09:43 - Mar 8 by Guthrum |
Or, indeed, the German/Israeli/Irish model, with a non-executive President, but which seems equally subject to corruption, scandal and the occasional dubious statement. With the added expense of elections. |
Humans can choose to run for office.
And you can get rid of people in office, and have limits on time in office.
Removing a monarch or monarchy, traditionally, seems to be quite messy.
Of course UK isn’t my country, but as a rule, I would prefer if humans had a choice.
It would be an interesting case, does the existence of the Royal Family breach article 1 and 2 of Human rights legislation. | | | |
| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 10:14 - Mar 8 with 2752 views | mikeybloo88 |
| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 09:02 - Mar 8 by 26_Paz |
I think the fact they haven’t done might tell you who it is ... |
In which case, why mention it at all unless you deliberately want the press to pick it up and run with it? They knew what they were doing... |  | | |
| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 10:23 - Mar 8 with 2728 views | WeWereZombies |
| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 10:14 - Mar 8 by eireblue |
Humans can choose to run for office.
And you can get rid of people in office, and have limits on time in office.
Removing a monarch or monarchy, traditionally, seems to be quite messy.
Of course UK isn’t my country, but as a rule, I would prefer if humans had a choice.
It would be an interesting case, does the existence of the Royal Family breach article 1 and 2 of Human rights legislation. |
But our choice is dependent upon other humans, and they can be unreliable (I, of course, never am). Or to use a two word knock down argument - Donald Trump. Yes he got voted out but so much damage had already been done as well as the legacy of a divided nation.
With a constitution monarchy there is the advantage of not heaping blame on your fellow citizens if the head of state turns out to be a dork, and the head of state does not have much power anyway so in the worse case scenario you can give them a colouring book and an infinite supply of crayons. Or Brighton Pavilion... | |
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| Bleedin' commoners.... on 10:26 - Mar 8 with 2723 views | Bloots |
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| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 10:29 - Mar 8 with 2714 views | Radlett_blue |
| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 09:25 - Mar 8 by eireblue |
I think you are correct.
Their initial statement, that started this off, didn’t mention privacy.
Back in 2017 Harry said he would like to live a normal life. But acknowledged that he would have to work out a role for himself.
I have a suspicion that the narrative of “hah look at the people that wanted privacy, being interviewed”, is being used by a media machine looking to sell “news”.
I think I have read that Harry would like a private life for his family, which will include his children.
It seems to me that people in the public eye, actors, sports stars, etc., and their families should have some form of private life.
Harry didn’t choose to be born into the Royal Family. |
While I give Harry credit for trying to make a career as a soldier, which was predictably scuppered by media intrusion, the option of living quietly on his huge tax free inheritance and raising a family was always open to him. It's also still open to him, but he won't have all the taxpayer funded perks. |  |
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| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 10:31 - Mar 8 with 2710 views | eireblue |
| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 10:23 - Mar 8 by WeWereZombies |
But our choice is dependent upon other humans, and they can be unreliable (I, of course, never am). Or to use a two word knock down argument - Donald Trump. Yes he got voted out but so much damage had already been done as well as the legacy of a divided nation.
With a constitution monarchy there is the advantage of not heaping blame on your fellow citizens if the head of state turns out to be a dork, and the head of state does not have much power anyway so in the worse case scenario you can give them a colouring book and an infinite supply of crayons. Or Brighton Pavilion... |
Crayons, useful for colouring in boxes, and flashy accommodations, ...hmmmmm...are you thinking about Johnson? | | | |
| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 10:56 - Mar 8 with 2658 views | WeWereZombies |
| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 10:31 - Mar 8 by eireblue |
Crayons, useful for colouring in boxes, and flashy accommodations, ...hmmmmm...are you thinking about Johnson? |
I think if you gave Boris Johnson a book and some crayons he would use the red ones to write a piece for and the blue ones to write a piece against, just a matter of time to see which one he went with. However if you gave them to Blair then the colouring book becomes a secret dossier and the crayons weapons of mass destruction... | |
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| Bleedin' commoners.... on 11:19 - Mar 8 with 2619 views | mikeybloo88 |
| Bleedin' commoners.... on 10:26 - Mar 8 by Bloots |
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Harry's related to Damien Lewis? Who knew? | | | |
| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 11:24 - Mar 8 with 2612 views | Ryorry |
| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 09:25 - Mar 8 by eireblue |
I think you are correct.
Their initial statement, that started this off, didn’t mention privacy.
Back in 2017 Harry said he would like to live a normal life. But acknowledged that he would have to work out a role for himself.
I have a suspicion that the narrative of “hah look at the people that wanted privacy, being interviewed”, is being used by a media machine looking to sell “news”.
I think I have read that Harry would like a private life for his family, which will include his children.
It seems to me that people in the public eye, actors, sports stars, etc., and their families should have some form of private life.
Harry didn’t choose to be born into the Royal Family. |
Very much this.
People keep forgetting Harry's struggles with mental health following what happened with his mother. Meghan Markle then being subject to racist abuse (clear from a large section of the public, even if we don't know the whole story within the RF itself) doubled that. Both have repeatedly said they are desperate for their children not to have to go through all that.
As others have said, they are entitled to put their side of things via somebody they know they can trust, rather than via all kinds of garbage from the gutter press. They may have made a mistake with that, it might have been better to issue a lengthy statement, but there's another facet that some people forget - guess what, they are human, so make mistakes like all the rest of us.
As for all the details - the wisest thing my late Aunty ever said was that no-one ever really knows what goes on within a marriage except the two people concerned. I'd widen that to say no-one ever really knows what goes on within a family except the family members themselves. I'm inclined to cut Harry & Meghan plenty of slack - money & a nice lifestyle are worth diddly squat if prejudice, childhood trauma & mental health issues are wrecking it in later life. |  |
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| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 11:52 - Mar 8 with 2559 views | leitrimblue |
| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 08:04 - Mar 8 by Churchman |
The last thing I’ll be doing is wasting an hour on two tiresome people milking the system for all they’re worth. |
Just think of it as a box set of Xmas afternoon speeches |  | | |
| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 11:52 - Mar 8 with 2558 views | WeWereZombies |
| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 11:24 - Mar 8 by Ryorry |
Very much this.
People keep forgetting Harry's struggles with mental health following what happened with his mother. Meghan Markle then being subject to racist abuse (clear from a large section of the public, even if we don't know the whole story within the RF itself) doubled that. Both have repeatedly said they are desperate for their children not to have to go through all that.
As others have said, they are entitled to put their side of things via somebody they know they can trust, rather than via all kinds of garbage from the gutter press. They may have made a mistake with that, it might have been better to issue a lengthy statement, but there's another facet that some people forget - guess what, they are human, so make mistakes like all the rest of us.
As for all the details - the wisest thing my late Aunty ever said was that no-one ever really knows what goes on within a marriage except the two people concerned. I'd widen that to say no-one ever really knows what goes on within a family except the family members themselves. I'm inclined to cut Harry & Meghan plenty of slack - money & a nice lifestyle are worth diddly squat if prejudice, childhood trauma & mental health issues are wrecking it in later life. |
I would suggest that not even the wife or the husband know everything that goes on within a marriage. | |
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| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 11:55 - Mar 8 with 2551 views | Ryorry |
| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 11:52 - Mar 8 by WeWereZombies |
I would suggest that not even the wife or the husband know everything that goes on within a marriage. |
Well OK, sometimes that too. | |
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| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 14:00 - Mar 8 with 2474 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 09:05 - Mar 8 by GlasgowBlue |
Are you going to sit down and watch the whole interview banksy? Or like me, have you seen enough from the snippets in the news to consider that MM feels very strongly that she has been a victim of racism and deserves the right to speak out against the racism. |
Think I'll wait for The Crown in 4 years time. |  |
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| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 14:49 - Mar 8 with 2431 views | WeWereZombies |
| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 07:03 - Mar 8 by bluelagos |
Who hasn't got a racist grandparent in the family? A truly British tradition it seems.
Let's hope its Phil rather than Lizzie eh. |
Apparently neither:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56323906
They are really drip feeding us now though, do we speculate on who it was or who is next to be discounted? | |
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| The Harry and Meghan ‘interview’ aired here tonight on 14:56 - Mar 8 with 2415 views | itfcjoe |
I thought they said Senior Royal, doesn't leave many does it? | |
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