| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:07 - Mar 23 with 2532 views | MattinLondon |
| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:04 - Mar 23 by monytowbray |
Again, until someone can convince me paying money into the pockets of monopolised shareholders for unavoidable infrastructure for the greater good of society why should I budge?
Onus is on you, I've formed that opinion based on evidence and discussion, so provide the opposite. |
If you’re challenged for a ticket or fare what do you do? |  | |  |
| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:09 - Mar 23 with 2530 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:01 - Mar 23 by monytowbray |
Depends what you define as "theft", doesn't it?
Does Tesco steal land on the cheap and bank land for shops?
Do those Tesco shops then cause closure of local businesses which results in money for the community being stolen into a monopoly of 4-6 corporations with a handful of bosses?
Due to the damage done to the community and a need for work does Tesco then steal that labour at a minimum wage rate so people can't afford to shop anywhere but Tesco?
Do Tesco purposely delay payment to suppliers to steal interest for themselves?
Do Tesco continually steal money from the pockets of their suppliers by forcing lower and lower payments on goods?
In that regard, how should we even define "theft", let alone police it? |
Okay. I see now you are a comedy creation. Just missing the Che Guevara picture ad your avatar.
I’m done. |  | | |
| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:10 - Mar 23 with 2513 views | PassionNotAnger |
| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 15:26 - Mar 23 by J2BLUE |
It's your entire attitude which pisses people off. You never used to be so full on. Most people would agree with much of what you say but it's the delivery and attitude. I know you don't like it when people say that but you're like the sixth former who has suddenly realised there is a world out there and wants to rebel against something. Your something is literally everything. Then you come on here and present it as if no one has ever thought of it before and everyone except you is some sort of idiot.
Then, of course, the why always me routine when you inevitably get some pushback.
I await the hilarious reply in capitals and the cherry picked meme proving everything i've said is BS. |
Thanks - saved me typing out something very similar - - whether fair or not the way a message is delivered is equally as important as the content if you want to educate and inform rather than just "preach" | | | |
| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:11 - Mar 23 with 2509 views | monytowbray |
| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:07 - Mar 23 by MattinLondon |
If you’re challenged for a ticket or fare what do you do? |
Various things. |  |
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| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:13 - Mar 23 with 2500 views | monytowbray |
| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:10 - Mar 23 by PassionNotAnger |
Thanks - saved me typing out something very similar - - whether fair or not the way a message is delivered is equally as important as the content if you want to educate and inform rather than just "preach" |
Is providing a list of links explaining why there may be resentment towards the police not doing that then?
How would you make that less preachy.
Another thread descends into attacking the poster but don't point that out or you'll get told WHY ALWAYS ME? | |
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| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:13 - Mar 23 with 2497 views | The_Romford_Blue |
Yikes |  |
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| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:13 - Mar 23 with 2494 views | monytowbray |
| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:09 - Mar 23 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Okay. I see now you are a comedy creation. Just missing the Che Guevara picture ad your avatar.
I’m done. |
It's not the flex you think it is, trust me. | |
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| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:15 - Mar 23 with 2486 views | PassionNotAnger |
| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:11 - Mar 23 by monytowbray |
Various things. |
Absolutely pathetic -- self entitled arrogant child who thinks the world should confirm to their beliefs because you spend most of your time in an echo chamber where you manage to convince yourselves that it's you against the nasty world and anything other than your "utopia" isn't credible or enforceable. | | | |
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| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:15 - Mar 23 with 2485 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:01 - Mar 23 by monytowbray |
Depends what you define as "theft", doesn't it?
Does Tesco steal land on the cheap and bank land for shops?
Do those Tesco shops then cause closure of local businesses which results in money for the community being stolen into a monopoly of 4-6 corporations with a handful of bosses?
Due to the damage done to the community and a need for work does Tesco then steal that labour at a minimum wage rate so people can't afford to shop anywhere but Tesco?
Do Tesco purposely delay payment to suppliers to steal interest for themselves?
Do Tesco continually steal money from the pockets of their suppliers by forcing lower and lower payments on goods?
In that regard, how should we even define "theft", let alone police it? |
Theft is defined by section 1 of the 1968 Act as dishonestly appropriating property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it. | |
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| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:15 - Mar 23 with 2487 views | footers |
Just dropping by to point out that had callis been of the centre or right-wing persuasion, the responses to him in this thread would have been called a 'pile on' by the Enlightened Centrists and posters asked to stop. But they are nowhere to be seen. |  |
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| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:15 - Mar 23 with 2485 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 11:11 - Mar 23 by brazil1982 |
Of course not; the use of ACAB is extremely offensive. |
In that case why not use SCAB (Some Cops Are B'stards) instead? |  |
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| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:18 - Mar 23 with 2465 views | mo_itfc |
Is there a thread on how we're going to improve the standards of policing?
Or do we just want to rant about how bad it is? | |
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| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:18 - Mar 23 with 2462 views | monytowbray |
| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:15 - Mar 23 by The_Romford_Blue |
Theft is defined by section 1 of the 1968 Act as dishonestly appropriating property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it. |
The legal system is only as good as to who it holds to account and the power of its least powerful citizens sadly. | |
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| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:19 - Mar 23 with 2458 views | SpruceMoose |
| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:15 - Mar 23 by footers |
Just dropping by to point out that had callis been of the centre or right-wing persuasion, the responses to him in this thread would have been called a 'pile on' by the Enlightened Centrists and posters asked to stop. But they are nowhere to be seen. |
Completely. |  |
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| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:19 - Mar 23 with 2459 views | monytowbray |
| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:18 - Mar 23 by mo_itfc |
Is there a thread on how we're going to improve the standards of policing?
Or do we just want to rant about how bad it is? |
It's here, you just need to read. | |
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| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:20 - Mar 23 with 2452 views | PassionNotAnger |
| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:13 - Mar 23 by monytowbray |
Is providing a list of links explaining why there may be resentment towards the police not doing that then?
How would you make that less preachy.
Another thread descends into attacking the poster but don't point that out or you'll get told WHY ALWAYS ME? |
if you want an honest answer - just simply read the title of this thread - it's taking a position immediately of challenging anyone who "defend the police" - no context about "in certain circumstances" - Just a confrontational position where you are trying to challenge those who defend the police.
Genuinely - before you reply, go and talk to some real, outside of your normal like-minded friends - (perhaps a family member) - show them this title and ask whether this would make them more or less likely to read any subsequent content with an open mind that as it's likely to be a balanced attempt to start a debate or educate people?
I know you won't do that but instead come back with some deflection or other - but you've asked and I've respond. Perhaps reflect before responding. | | | |
| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:20 - Mar 23 with 2445 views | MattinLondon |
| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:11 - Mar 23 by monytowbray |
Various things. |
You hide in the toilets. | | | |
| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:22 - Mar 23 with 2440 views | monytowbray |
| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:15 - Mar 23 by PassionNotAnger |
Absolutely pathetic -- self entitled arrogant child who thinks the world should confirm to their beliefs because you spend most of your time in an echo chamber where you manage to convince yourselves that it's you against the nasty world and anything other than your "utopia" isn't credible or enforceable. |
So three conclusions.
Deffo an old poster back with a grudge. Rent free.
You are someone who doesn't really know me at all, clearly.
You seem only capable of attacking me or how I make my point, rather than the point, therefore ZZZ.
And then you'll call me the rude one, despite whatever the f**k this nonsense you just posted is. I've seen people get punched in the pub for less. | |
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| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:22 - Mar 23 with 2433 views | SpruceMoose |
| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:20 - Mar 23 by PassionNotAnger |
if you want an honest answer - just simply read the title of this thread - it's taking a position immediately of challenging anyone who "defend the police" - no context about "in certain circumstances" - Just a confrontational position where you are trying to challenge those who defend the police.
Genuinely - before you reply, go and talk to some real, outside of your normal like-minded friends - (perhaps a family member) - show them this title and ask whether this would make them more or less likely to read any subsequent content with an open mind that as it's likely to be a balanced attempt to start a debate or educate people?
I know you won't do that but instead come back with some deflection or other - but you've asked and I've respond. Perhaps reflect before responding. |
Callis may take what many consider to be extreme positions, but perhaps he is just trying to move the argument forward because legitimate complaints about policing have been ignored for decades by the very people you now want him to go talk to?
Just my take. [Post edited 23 Mar 2021 16:23]
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| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:24 - Mar 23 with 2426 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:18 - Mar 23 by monytowbray |
The legal system is only as good as to who it holds to account and the power of its least powerful citizens sadly. |
That as may be, if you don’t pay for stuff and get caught, you’ll still be fined and arrested (if you don’t pay the fine) just like a common criminal. Even if your reasons for not paying are from a principled standpoint rather than just not wanting to pay like the majority of thieves. | |
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| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:28 - Mar 23 with 2399 views | giant_stow |
| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:15 - Mar 23 by footers |
Just dropping by to point out that had callis been of the centre or right-wing persuasion, the responses to him in this thread would have been called a 'pile on' by the Enlightened Centrists and posters asked to stop. But they are nowhere to be seen. |
Are those bludy Centrists playing up again? What scum. |  |
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| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:29 - Mar 23 with 2395 views | monytowbray |
| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:20 - Mar 23 by PassionNotAnger |
if you want an honest answer - just simply read the title of this thread - it's taking a position immediately of challenging anyone who "defend the police" - no context about "in certain circumstances" - Just a confrontational position where you are trying to challenge those who defend the police.
Genuinely - before you reply, go and talk to some real, outside of your normal like-minded friends - (perhaps a family member) - show them this title and ask whether this would make them more or less likely to read any subsequent content with an open mind that as it's likely to be a balanced attempt to start a debate or educate people?
I know you won't do that but instead come back with some deflection or other - but you've asked and I've respond. Perhaps reflect before responding. |
You didn't answer. You've critiqued my post, I asked you what you'd do to make it less preachy. How does one raise evidence with an audience that's evidently here in droves.
I'm all ears, but you seem more interested in some sort of personal vendetta.
Rent free. | |
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| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:29 - Mar 23 with 2389 views | footers |
| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:28 - Mar 23 by giant_stow |
Are those bludy Centrists playing up again? What scum. |
No, they're just showing their double standards and inherent right-wing bias. As per. | |
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| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:29 - Mar 23 with 2388 views | J2BLUE |
| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:07 - Mar 23 by J2BLUE |
You're presenting yourself as a warrior for justice when in reality it's a convenient excuse because you just don't want to pay. All sorts of ethical choices you could make instead but you choose to steal. Assuming theft is also against your morals what justification do you have for stealing rather than shopping ethically? Buy directly from suppliers or buy from companies who do good with their profits. [Post edited 23 Mar 2021 16:12]
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Bumped in case you missed it. |  |
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| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:30 - Mar 23 with 2388 views | monytowbray |
| Some points of note for those who defend the police or assume they're saints... on 16:24 - Mar 23 by The_Romford_Blue |
That as may be, if you don’t pay for stuff and get caught, you’ll still be fined and arrested (if you don’t pay the fine) just like a common criminal. Even if your reasons for not paying are from a principled standpoint rather than just not wanting to pay like the majority of thieves. |
That's a risk I'm willing to take for what I believe.
People who jump out of planes are usually aware the parachute may not work! | |
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