| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people 13:20 - May 13 with 8738 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Are expecting”
Goes on to talk about Waghorn and Rhodes saying “dare I say higher” ... Haaland ?
Would I like to keep Downes and Dozzell and Dobra. Yes I would, I think most people do. But this isn’t Paul Hurts territory, Paul Cook has done this at this level. I’m extremely optimistic for next season, so should everyone be.
FWIW whether or not we get these players is another thing, but lots of players out of contract, money to be spent. I think Paul Cook clearly has targets that he is confident of getting. Trust the Process guys, trust the process. [Post edited 13 May 2021 13:26]
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| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 14:01 - May 13 with 2558 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 13:42 - May 13 by jayessess |
We're aiming higher than Waghorn, but also offering a contract to Gwion Edwards and apparently see something in Aaron Drinan? Make it make sense, please. |
Perhaps we've had enquiries about Drinan? Better to get a few bob for him.
Maybe he's off to Phoenix Rising on loan. Like you say, his retention makes no sense. |  |
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| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 14:04 - May 13 with 2528 views | Ely_Blue |
Mo Eisa from Posh |  |
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| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 14:05 - May 13 with 2504 views | Ely_Blue |
| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 13:58 - May 13 by jayessess |
A contract offer is a definitive statement that you want someone in the club. It's qualitatively different from what's been said about the rest of the players being discussed.
The confusion with Drinan is that it's obvious he's never going to be a first team striker in this division, let alone the one above. Yet, he potentially gets a squad spot and the chance to prove himself whilst we're practically shoving out the door younger players with much more evident ability. |
Evident ability, no evident application until it was too late | |
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| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 14:05 - May 13 with 2502 views | Ely_Blue |
| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 13:58 - May 13 by jayessess |
A contract offer is a definitive statement that you want someone in the club. It's qualitatively different from what's been said about the rest of the players being discussed.
The confusion with Drinan is that it's obvious he's never going to be a first team striker in this division, let alone the one above. Yet, he potentially gets a squad spot and the chance to prove himself whilst we're practically shoving out the door younger players with much more evident ability. |
Evident ability, non evident application until it was too late | |
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| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 14:05 - May 13 with 2502 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 13:58 - May 13 by Swansea_Blue |
Peter Crouch. You don't get much higher than that.
Balls.beaten to it, but only by 34 minutes which is pretty good for me. [Post edited 13 May 2021 13:59]
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If it’s any consolation.. I still laughed | |
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| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 14:06 - May 13 with 2499 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 13:52 - May 13 by BryanPlug |
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I literally just quoted his words hahah | |
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| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 14:07 - May 13 with 2478 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 13:58 - May 13 by jayessess |
A contract offer is a definitive statement that you want someone in the club. It's qualitatively different from what's been said about the rest of the players being discussed.
The confusion with Drinan is that it's obvious he's never going to be a first team striker in this division, let alone the one above. Yet, he potentially gets a squad spot and the chance to prove himself whilst we're practically shoving out the door younger players with much more evident ability. |
At the same time this players with higher quality will be wanting to play week in week out, perhaps Cook can’t offer that but Drinan would purely be a squad player ? | |
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| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 14:07 - May 13 with 2484 views | SaigonTractor |
| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 13:42 - May 13 by jayessess |
We're aiming higher than Waghorn, but also offering a contract to Gwion Edwards and apparently see something in Aaron Drinan? Make it make sense, please. |
They said on the podcast that they'd be surprised if players like Hawkins and Drinan weren't also told they could leave, they just couldn't be 100% sure and so didn't print it. I imagine Edwards is the same. |  | | |
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| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 14:10 - May 13 with 2421 views | blueislander |
| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 14:07 - May 13 by SaigonTractor |
They said on the podcast that they'd be surprised if players like Hawkins and Drinan weren't also told they could leave, they just couldn't be 100% sure and so didn't print it. I imagine Edwards is the same. |
Surely the thinking behind giving Edwards a contract was to get a few quid for him. |  | | |
| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 14:14 - May 13 with 2357 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 13:21 - May 13 by JackSted |
Joe Allen inbound 10000% def info |
I wondered about this when I saw stoke had released him |  |
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| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 14:15 - May 13 with 2347 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 14:10 - May 13 by blueislander |
Surely the thinking behind giving Edwards a contract was to get a few quid for him. |
I don't think that would make a lot of sense (unless they know there's strong interest). We could easily get stuck with him and then we've potenatillly wasted that money.
I am a bit confused about the players were seemingly wanting to keep. Maybe the thinking is that they are players who'd better settle for a backup status, or maybe PC just likes their attitude and application and there's nothing more to it than that. It's going to be an interesting summer, that's for sure. |  |
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| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 14:16 - May 13 with 2338 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 13:58 - May 13 by jayessess |
A contract offer is a definitive statement that you want someone in the club. It's qualitatively different from what's been said about the rest of the players being discussed.
The confusion with Drinan is that it's obvious he's never going to be a first team striker in this division, let alone the one above. Yet, he potentially gets a squad spot and the chance to prove himself whilst we're practically shoving out the door younger players with much more evident ability. |
Or like we have heard he is for sale. | |
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| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 14:19 - May 13 with 2321 views | SaigonTractor |
| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 14:15 - May 13 by Swansea_Blue |
I don't think that would make a lot of sense (unless they know there's strong interest). We could easily get stuck with him and then we've potenatillly wasted that money.
I am a bit confused about the players were seemingly wanting to keep. Maybe the thinking is that they are players who'd better settle for a backup status, or maybe PC just likes their attitude and application and there's nothing more to it than that. It's going to be an interesting summer, that's for sure. |
I guess we can afford to waste a bit of money now with the new ownership.
This is my complete uneducated guess though. | | | |
| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 14:21 - May 13 with 2300 views | jayessess |
| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 14:10 - May 13 by blueislander |
Surely the thinking behind giving Edwards a contract was to get a few quid for him. |
That's not how things work.
Edwards can make more money as a free agent than as a transferred player. Why would he accept a new contract so he could be immediately sold? He'd effectively just be giving the club a bunch of money for no reason? |  |
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| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 14:30 - May 13 with 2213 views | dirtyboy |
| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 14:21 - May 13 by jayessess |
That's not how things work.
Edwards can make more money as a free agent than as a transferred player. Why would he accept a new contract so he could be immediately sold? He'd effectively just be giving the club a bunch of money for no reason? |
Or guaranteeing himself money in the absense of a contract elsewhere.
It's a strange environment out there for all loss making clubs without big backers.
I'd say the clubs have a stronger hand now than they've ever had and players need to be very careful. [Post edited 13 May 2021 14:32]
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| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 15:01 - May 13 with 1973 views | BiGDonnie |
Jack Wilshere.... |  |
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| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 15:14 - May 13 with 1894 views | jayessess |
| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 14:30 - May 13 by dirtyboy |
Or guaranteeing himself money in the absense of a contract elsewhere.
It's a strange environment out there for all loss making clubs without big backers.
I'd say the clubs have a stronger hand now than they've ever had and players need to be very careful. [Post edited 13 May 2021 14:32]
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The bizarro logic employed here hurts my brain...
So, in the scenario you've cooked up, Edwards, a free agent able to speak other clubs since January, decides to sign a new contract with Ipswich because he's received no other interest. Presumably Edwards skips the part of the conversation where our future plans for him are discussed.
We then put him on the transfer list and then suddenly another club, who had not previously shown any interest in Edwards when he was on a free, decides, yes, now we will have to pay a fee for him, we would very much like Gwion Edwards please. [Post edited 13 May 2021 15:16]
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| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 15:24 - May 13 with 1800 views | Plums |
| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 13:49 - May 13 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Edwards and Drinan will have the same ultimatum as the rest of the squads I imagine. Signing new deals or not. Plus I don’t get the Drinan concern. Maybe Cook likes his attitude, he’s going to be 4tg choice. |
Maybe he’s going to convert him to CB |  |
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| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 15:53 - May 13 with 1630 views | BlueWorldOrder |
| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 13:42 - May 13 by jayessess |
We're aiming higher than Waghorn, but also offering a contract to Gwion Edwards and apparently see something in Aaron Drinan? Make it make sense, please. |
He's ringing round his mates to come get a seasons easy ride out of silly new owners. They shouldn't be behind this destruction. We're heading to League Two. |  |
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| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 18:41 - May 13 with 1415 views | JackSted |
| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 15:53 - May 13 by BlueWorldOrder |
He's ringing round his mates to come get a seasons easy ride out of silly new owners. They shouldn't be behind this destruction. We're heading to League Two. |
stfu you weapon |  |
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| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 19:16 - May 13 with 1284 views | ronnyd |
Think that Frank Fielding could be a good punt as a new keeper. | | | |
| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 19:46 - May 13 with 1156 views | pointofblue |
| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 19:16 - May 13 by ronnyd |
Think that Frank Fielding could be a good punt as a new keeper. |
Still expecting us to bring Christian Walton in on loan from Brighton. | |
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| Stuart Watson says “the targets are ambitious, more so than what people on 21:21 - May 13 with 933 views | itfctilidie |
Interesting.
Can't imagine who they could be referring to.
Famara Diédhiou? Ashton signed him for Bristol City, out of contract, would score copious goals at this level |  | | |
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