| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich 19:09 - May 28 with 7422 views | chrismakin |
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| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 18:44 - May 29 with 2462 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 18:26 - May 29 by dickie |
He really wasn't, I gigged with him a few times back in the day and remember remarking that I didn't know what all the fuss was about, if I recall I said "he's a young, ginger Craig David". "You Need Me.." was as edgy as it got (great tune though!) All subjective I know, and he definitely has a talent for writing a catchy hit plus is a really lovely chap but it's still generic pop. Mccartney III is way more interesting as an example of what a singer songwriter can do and he's nearly 80! |
That fact that you gigged with him (I'm presuming on the pub circuit) suggests he WAS an indie kid. I guess it depends how literal you're going with the term "indie". |  |
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| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 18:50 - May 29 with 2452 views | dickie |
| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 18:44 - May 29 by The_Flashing_Smile |
That fact that you gigged with him (I'm presuming on the pub circuit) suggests he WAS an indie kid. I guess it depends how literal you're going with the term "indie". |
Yes you're right, all those early releases were self released or on small independents. I guess all I'm saying is I do think he's great, I just think it's hyperbole to label him a songwriting genius. But again, that's all subjective |  | | |
| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 21:06 - May 29 with 2412 views | Keaneish |
| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 20:52 - May 28 by chrismakin |
I said one of if not the best. It's all personal taste and opinion.
For me. There arent many better |
For me, it’s terrible formulaic pop music for 15 - 25 year olds who have never really found what music they actually do like. |  |
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| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 23:27 - May 29 with 2371 views | King_ding_a_lin_g |
I saw Ed play on a tiny stage at Manchester SU in 2011 (same night I met my Mrs) and wasn't convinced at all... since then I've grown to appreciate him massively and he's developed into a fantastic artist. We saw him headline Glastonbury a few years ago which was epic. Doing that stage justice as a solo artist is no mean feat, and he smashed it. Respect.
The only criticism I can level Ed's way is that I think he has produced music which he believes the people would lap up, and they have... in their tens of millions. As opposed to having his own style and just producing music based on that style, whether people like it or not.
He's a tremedously clever man and I love him. |  | | |
| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 04:15 - May 30 with 2327 views | SpruceMoose |
| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 06:50 - May 29 by BryanPlug |
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Taylor Swift
Lana Del Rey
Lady Gaga
Frank Ocean
Ed is no slouch though. [Post edited 30 May 2021 4:21]
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| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 06:13 - May 30 with 2300 views | Keaneish |
| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 04:15 - May 30 by SpruceMoose |
Taylor Swift
Lana Del Rey
Lady Gaga
Frank Ocean
Ed is no slouch though. [Post edited 30 May 2021 4:21]
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'Cause the players gonna play, play, play, play, play
And the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate
Baby, I'm just gonna shake, shake, shake, shake, shake
I shake it off...’
And you think Taylor Swift is one of the greatest writers of the modern era...
Did you just grab the top four most recently played artists from a teenagers Spotify!? | |
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| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 13:08 - May 30 with 2198 views | SpruceMoose |
| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 06:13 - May 30 by Keaneish |
'Cause the players gonna play, play, play, play, play
And the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate
Baby, I'm just gonna shake, shake, shake, shake, shake
I shake it off...’
And you think Taylor Swift is one of the greatest writers of the modern era...
Did you just grab the top four most recently played artists from a teenagers Spotify!? |
I knew that would upset someone. Feel free to post your list of indie blokes. | |
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| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 15:12 - May 30 with 2153 views | Durovigutum |
| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 13:08 - May 30 by SpruceMoose |
I knew that would upset someone. Feel free to post your list of indie blokes. |
You've introduced the hammer to the nail. People sneer at Ed and then parrot some great but unknown artist, you listen politely and then wonder how they've managed to record tinnitus and release it as "music".
Seriously, just enjoy what you enjoy and let others do similar. As long as you don't try to share it with me at 2AM booming from your 15 year old Corsa worth less than the bass box you thought necessary.... |  | | |
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| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 15:43 - May 30 with 2139 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 18:50 - May 29 by dickie |
Yes you're right, all those early releases were self released or on small independents. I guess all I'm saying is I do think he's great, I just think it's hyperbole to label him a songwriting genius. But again, that's all subjective |
I'd agree with you that "genius" is a bit OTT. | |
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| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 15:51 - May 30 with 2126 views | chrismakin |
| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 15:43 - May 30 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I'd agree with you that "genius" is a bit OTT. |
No one has called him a Genuis. | |
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| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 15:58 - May 30 with 2122 views | Keaneish |
| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 13:08 - May 30 by SpruceMoose |
I knew that would upset someone. Feel free to post your list of indie blokes. |
If anything, I was expecting a whoosh not a response endorsing kids pop music. Got your V Festival ticket yet? | |
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| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 16:01 - May 30 with 2118 views | SpruceMoose |
| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 15:58 - May 30 by Keaneish |
If anything, I was expecting a whoosh not a response endorsing kids pop music. Got your V Festival ticket yet? |
Are you trying to avoid putting your suggestion on here? | |
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| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 16:04 - May 30 with 2115 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 15:51 - May 30 by chrismakin |
No one has called him a Genuis. |
Oh. Well you should probably aim that at Dickie as he seems to think they have. | |
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| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 20:44 - May 30 with 2066 views | dickie |
| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 15:51 - May 30 by chrismakin |
No one has called him a Genuis. |
Sorry, semantics... I think the expression was "the best singer songwriter of the modern era". Equally as hyperbolic as "genius" | | | |
| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 20:57 - May 30 with 2055 views | SpruceMoose |
| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 20:44 - May 30 by dickie |
Sorry, semantics... I think the expression was "the best singer songwriter of the modern era". Equally as hyperbolic as "genius" |
Who would you nominate? | |
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| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 14:27 - May 31 with 1966 views | dickie |
| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 20:57 - May 30 by SpruceMoose |
Who would you nominate? |
When does the modern era begin? | | | |
| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 14:42 - May 31 with 1950 views | Herbivore |
| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 15:58 - May 30 by Keaneish |
If anything, I was expecting a whoosh not a response endorsing kids pop music. Got your V Festival ticket yet? |
Yet more snobbery from you. |  |
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| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 15:42 - May 31 with 1890 views | PositivelyPortman |
| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 07:51 - May 29 by Churchman |
Surely it’s all about opinion. People always drop to their knees when Bob Dylan is mentioned, but I always found his stuff awful. I saw Sheeran saw play without knowing who he was in 2012 and while that genre of music isn’t really for me, it was clear he was very good.
Sheeran deserves all the plaudits he gets. I actually don’t think he creates music for the masses. I just think he creates music and the masses like it. There is a difference.
Personally, I much prefer him as a shirt sponsor than a seedy betting company. It’s about time betting companies were banned from advertising anyway. |
“Bob Dylan’s stuff is awful” 
What, the most influential songwriter of the past 60 odd years?
That Bob Dylan? |  |
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| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 16:15 - May 31 with 1852 views | bazza |
I think I love Ed a little after watching that . |  | | |
| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 16:26 - May 31 with 1840 views | bazza |
| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 15:42 - May 31 by PositivelyPortman |
“Bob Dylan’s stuff is awful”
What, the most influential songwriter of the past 60 odd years?
That Bob Dylan? |
He may well of been influential, but to some peoples ears , it could still be awful. | | | |
| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 16:37 - May 31 with 1831 views | Herbivore |
| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 15:42 - May 31 by PositivelyPortman |
“Bob Dylan’s stuff is awful”
What, the most influential songwriter of the past 60 odd years?
That Bob Dylan? |
Not sure it was the songwriter part of singer/songwriter that Dylan struggled with. | |
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| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 16:40 - May 31 with 1826 views | SpruceMoose |
| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 14:27 - May 31 by dickie |
When does the modern era begin? |
Whenever you like. | |
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| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 17:13 - May 31 with 1785 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 16:40 - May 31 by SpruceMoose |
Whenever you like. |
It's all personal taste isn't it? So whoever he says you'll be able to dismiss.
I don't know enough of Ed's stuff, but in terms of great songwriters of the modern era I'd have Noel Gallagher up there. Plus Jack White. Adele and Lady Gaga should probably feature highly. Bjork? Thom Yorke? Dolly Parton? Beck? | |
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| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 17:22 - May 31 with 1776 views | jeera |
| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 17:13 - May 31 by The_Flashing_Smile |
It's all personal taste isn't it? So whoever he says you'll be able to dismiss.
I don't know enough of Ed's stuff, but in terms of great songwriters of the modern era I'd have Noel Gallagher up there. Plus Jack White. Adele and Lady Gaga should probably feature highly. Bjork? Thom Yorke? Dolly Parton? Beck? |
In that case, Prince.
I do think there's probably a few artists mentioned who rely on songwriters aren't there?
I won't pretend to know what percentage belong to whom but often it seems a song's source comes from some unexpected places. |  |
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| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 17:33 - May 31 with 1759 views | dickie |
| Ed Sheeran talks ipswich on 17:13 - May 31 by The_Flashing_Smile |
It's all personal taste isn't it? So whoever he says you'll be able to dismiss.
I don't know enough of Ed's stuff, but in terms of great songwriters of the modern era I'd have Noel Gallagher up there. Plus Jack White. Adele and Lady Gaga should probably feature highly. Bjork? Thom Yorke? Dolly Parton? Beck? |
Off the top of my head I would probably offer up Bjork, Macca, Beck, Thom Yorke, Damon Albarn, Amy Winehouse, Bowie, Lana Del Rey, Lorde, Father John Misty, St Vincent... all of which I'd argue have written and performed much more interesting music in the last 10 - 20 years or so in my humble opinion. I actually rate Ed Sheeran, he's brilliant at what he does but I just think there are many others who I find more inspirational and interesting (hence me suggesting his songwriting brilliance is somewhat hyperbolic). It is all very subjective though! | | | |
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