| Masks post July 19 08:05 - Jul 5 with 9508 views | bluelagos |
Appears that the mandatory wearing of masks will be replaced by personal choice with govt guidance to wear them in enclosed busy places.
One obviously enclosed busy place is public transport, tubes, trains etc.
Playbook reported that TFL could retain masks as a condition of entry but it seems unlikely and would be unforecable imho.
So, is there a case for mask carriages, say 2 per tube, where you are expected to wear one. Would give those anxious or vulnerable the ability to travel as they choose and those who wish not to wear a mask the opportunity to do so without impacting on others by choosing a different carriage.
Good idea or as crp as my alternative days idea for pubs ? (Cv passport) [Post edited 5 Jul 2021 8:12]
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| Masks post July 19 on 13:01 - Jul 5 with 941 views | WeWereZombies |
| Masks post July 19 on 12:58 - Jul 5 by footers |
From what little I know, those lucha libre guys take the whole mask thing very seriously indeed, even wearing them while showering or being on the job.
Just thought I should give you fair warning of what you're committing to here. |
Doesn't everyone wear a mask when they're on the job? Think the Government should launch a 'creep out to help out' scheme for the benefit of Anne Summers sales. |  |
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| Masks post July 19 on 13:03 - Jul 5 with 939 views | wkj |
| Masks post July 19 on 12:48 - Jul 5 by WeWereZombies |
By which time it will probably be too late for anyone around you in the previous ten days who has caught Covid-19 from you... |
You're not exactly wrong, but really there isn't a lot that can be done at that point. I really don't expect I shall be in very many enclosed areas on social calls for quite some time anyway. |  |
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| Masks post July 19 on 13:06 - Jul 5 with 933 views | footers |
| Masks post July 19 on 13:01 - Jul 5 by WeWereZombies |
Doesn't everyone wear a mask when they're on the job? Think the Government should launch a 'creep out to help out' scheme for the benefit of Anne Summers sales. |
Ah, so this is where that whole Craig David thing fits in, presumably with trademark beanie hat too.
Must mean you have an awfully busy schedule though... |  |
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| Masks post July 19 on 13:10 - Jul 5 with 926 views | Cotty |
| Masks post July 19 on 12:25 - Jul 5 by chicoazul |
Is there any proof masks work as you describe? |
Yes. Hope that helps. |  | | |
| Masks post July 19 on 13:16 - Jul 5 with 908 views | WeWereZombies |
| Masks post July 19 on 13:06 - Jul 5 by footers |
Ah, so this is where that whole Craig David thing fits in, presumably with trademark beanie hat too.
Must mean you have an awfully busy schedule though... |
Let's see now...
Monday - just a passing remark or two
Tuesday - going for a drink
Wednesday - the mask is well and truly strapped on.
But, as it happens, I am chillin' on Thursday, Friday and Saturday... | |
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| Masks post July 19 on 13:32 - Jul 5 with 890 views | HighgateBlue |
If you think that it's unenforceable as a condition of entry to the train or station, then surely it's at least as unenforceable as a condition of entry to a particular carriage? |  | | |
| Masks post July 19 on 13:40 - Jul 5 with 873 views | footers |
| Masks post July 19 on 13:32 - Jul 5 by HighgateBlue |
If you think that it's unenforceable as a condition of entry to the train or station, then surely it's at least as unenforceable as a condition of entry to a particular carriage? |
There is absolutely zero way that would happen on the Tube, none.
Either way I'll continue to wear my mask until further notice, especially on public transport. | |
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| Masks post July 19 on 13:51 - Jul 5 with 849 views | StokieBlue |
| Masks post July 19 on 08:20 - Jul 5 by blueblueburleymcgrew |
I think your final paragraph is key. It should be entirely up to the individual, mask wearers and non mask wearers should be respected and not challenged.
It must be about unhindered personal choice. |
Ryanair have said that masks will remain compulsory on all their flights regardless of the rules at the departure or arrival destinations to protect the passengers and staff.
UNITE have made a statement saying it would be "negligent" to remove the requirement for masks on public transport and that their staff are worried about losing the protection they get from people wearing masks. I wouldn't be surprised to see some industrial action around this point if masks usage is not compulsory on poorly ventilated public transport.
It's all very well citing personal freedoms but what about the people who don't have a choice but to be in those conditions?
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| Masks post July 19 on 13:56 - Jul 5 with 814 views | 26_Paz |
| Masks post July 19 on 08:16 - Jul 5 by StokieBlue |
Indeed.
So just keep masks full stop in enclosed public transport like the tube. I mean is it really a hardship to wear one for 20 minutes whilst travelling in order to protect yourself and others? You don't see all these complaints in Asia from people wearing them.
Overground trains might be OK as all the windows can be opened to provide at least some ventilation.
I'm still planning on wearing my mask for the foreseeable on things like public transport. Lets hope people aren't abused for taking this decision if they so choose.
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Personally, I probably won’t wear a mask once it’s no longer mandatory. I can’t imagine a situation where people will get abused for choosing to continue wearing them though. |  |
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| Masks post July 19 on 13:57 - Jul 5 with 830 views | DanTheMan |
| Masks post July 19 on 13:56 - Jul 5 by 26_Paz |
Personally, I probably won’t wear a mask once it’s no longer mandatory. I can’t imagine a situation where people will get abused for choosing to continue wearing them though. |
Why? It's simple, it's effective and it's little to no bother wearing one.
I struggle to understand the objection to wearing one when it benefits us all. |  |
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| Masks post July 19 on 13:58 - Jul 5 with 827 views | WeWereZombies |
| Masks post July 19 on 13:56 - Jul 5 by 26_Paz |
Personally, I probably won’t wear a mask once it’s no longer mandatory. I can’t imagine a situation where people will get abused for choosing to continue wearing them though. |
Presumably we can conclude that it would also be pointless to challenge anyone who no longer wears a mask in an enclosed space because we can assume that such a person does not have a conscience... | |
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| Masks post July 19 on 13:59 - Jul 5 with 825 views | StokieBlue |
| Masks post July 19 on 13:56 - Jul 5 by 26_Paz |
Personally, I probably won’t wear a mask once it’s no longer mandatory. I can’t imagine a situation where people will get abused for choosing to continue wearing them though. |
I'd wager that someone is abused on the 19th July for wearing a mask. I hope not but I think it's almost a certainty.
Why wouldn't you wear a mask in certain situations to protect others? Is their health not important? Do you only ever do things that are mandatory to help others?
I honestly don't understand the mindset of a good proportion of people in this country. It makes absolutely no sense to me. Perhaps it's me.
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| Masks post July 19 on 14:07 - Jul 5 with 808 views | footers |
| Masks post July 19 on 13:59 - Jul 5 by StokieBlue |
I'd wager that someone is abused on the 19th July for wearing a mask. I hope not but I think it's almost a certainty.
Why wouldn't you wear a mask in certain situations to protect others? Is their health not important? Do you only ever do things that are mandatory to help others?
I honestly don't understand the mindset of a good proportion of people in this country. It makes absolutely no sense to me. Perhaps it's me.
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For certain culture warriors, not wearing a mask is some sort of status symbol that they have to flaunt - don't tread on me etc. Some people have been looking for any excuse not to wear it so can certainly see many not doing the decent thing by their fellow Brit, even after all we've been through and learnt over the last 18 months. Sad, really - but there ya go. | |
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| Masks post July 19 on 14:08 - Jul 5 with 784 views | 26_Paz |
| Masks post July 19 on 13:59 - Jul 5 by StokieBlue |
I'd wager that someone is abused on the 19th July for wearing a mask. I hope not but I think it's almost a certainty.
Why wouldn't you wear a mask in certain situations to protect others? Is their health not important? Do you only ever do things that are mandatory to help others?
I honestly don't understand the mindset of a good proportion of people in this country. It makes absolutely no sense to me. Perhaps it's me.
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I really don’t like wearing them and if it’s assessed by the government and their scientific advisors as safe enough to make optional then that’s good enough for me | |
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| Masks post July 19 on 14:09 - Jul 5 with 795 views | StokieBlue |
| Masks post July 19 on 14:08 - Jul 5 by 26_Paz |
I really don’t like wearing them and if it’s assessed by the government and their scientific advisors as safe enough to make optional then that’s good enough for me |
Interesting.
So what if the scientific advisors disagree with the government but the government ignore them and press ahead with no masks anyway?
Because that's the exact position we are in at the moment, the scientists don't think mask wearing should be removed as a rule.
So what is your position now?
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| Masks post July 19 on 14:16 - Jul 5 with 760 views | 26_Paz |
| Masks post July 19 on 14:09 - Jul 5 by StokieBlue |
Interesting.
So what if the scientific advisors disagree with the government but the government ignore them and press ahead with no masks anyway?
Because that's the exact position we are in at the moment, the scientists don't think mask wearing should be removed as a rule.
So what is your position now?
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I’d have to think about it if and when that happens. I might just carry one and wear it if somewhere is particularly crowded | |
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| Masks post July 19 on 14:41 - Jul 5 with 729 views | ThisIsMyUsername |
| Masks post July 19 on 14:09 - Jul 5 by StokieBlue |
Interesting.
So what if the scientific advisors disagree with the government but the government ignore them and press ahead with no masks anyway?
Because that's the exact position we are in at the moment, the scientists don't think mask wearing should be removed as a rule.
So what is your position now?
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Trust the government's decision.
I'll be absolutely shocked if we are put back into full lockdown in three or four months. I fully expect this to be the end now of masks/social distancing/lockdowns once and for all. |  |
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| Masks post July 19 on 14:43 - Jul 5 with 724 views | DanTheMan |
| Masks post July 19 on 14:41 - Jul 5 by ThisIsMyUsername |
Trust the government's decision.
I'll be absolutely shocked if we are put back into full lockdown in three or four months. I fully expect this to be the end now of masks/social distancing/lockdowns once and for all. |
"Trust the government"
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| Masks post July 19 on 14:48 - Jul 5 with 712 views | blueconscience |
| Masks post July 19 on 08:27 - Jul 5 by bluelagos |
Anyone abusing a mask wearer, would be a proper scumbag. |
As would anyone abusing a non mask wearer |  |
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| Masks post July 19 on 14:50 - Jul 5 with 703 views | ThisIsMyUsername |
| Masks post July 19 on 14:43 - Jul 5 by DanTheMan |
"Trust the government"
LOL |
There was going to be one. I'll add a massive sarcasm disclaimer next time. | |
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| Masks post July 19 on 14:54 - Jul 5 with 691 views | StokieBlue |
| Masks post July 19 on 14:41 - Jul 5 by ThisIsMyUsername |
Trust the government's decision.
I'll be absolutely shocked if we are put back into full lockdown in three or four months. I fully expect this to be the end now of masks/social distancing/lockdowns once and for all. |
The government are elected officials who in the majority know very little about epidemiology whilst the scientists have studied all their lives and are expects on the subject yet you say you'd trust the government over them?
It's a ridiculous position and I think deep down you know it's a ridiculous position.
Who mentioned lockdowns? People are discussing wearing masks in some specific situations.
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| Masks post July 19 on 14:57 - Jul 5 with 685 views | StokieBlue |
| Masks post July 19 on 14:48 - Jul 5 by blueconscience |
As would anyone abusing a non mask wearer |
Abuse is always wrong, no arguments there.
However there isn't much equivalence between someone breaking the rules by not wearing a mask and someone wearing a mask when it's not compulsory for the protection of others.
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| Masks post July 19 on 15:07 - Jul 5 with 660 views | ThisIsMyUsername |
| Masks post July 19 on 14:54 - Jul 5 by StokieBlue |
The government are elected officials who in the majority know very little about epidemiology whilst the scientists have studied all their lives and are expects on the subject yet you say you'd trust the government over them?
It's a ridiculous position and I think deep down you know it's a ridiculous position.
Who mentioned lockdowns? People are discussing wearing masks in some specific situations.
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SB, see my above post.
If the scientists are against the decision(s) at the moment then I am very sceptical/concerned about it (despite how much I want to do away with it all). | |
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| Masks post July 19 on 15:08 - Jul 5 with 653 views | StokieBlue |
| Masks post July 19 on 15:07 - Jul 5 by ThisIsMyUsername |
SB, see my above post.
If the scientists are against the decision(s) at the moment then I am very sceptical/concerned about it (despite how much I want to do away with it all). |
Fair enough.
Given the responses you might want to work on your sarcastic posts :).
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| Masks post July 19 on 15:09 - Jul 5 with 648 views | DanTheMan |
| Masks post July 19 on 14:50 - Jul 5 by ThisIsMyUsername |
There was going to be one. I'll add a massive sarcasm disclaimer next time. |
It's very hard to tell these days! | |
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