| Having read Keanes comments 21:05 - Aug 26 with 3423 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
On Evans being in his office looking at the tactics board.
Anyone still think Evans wasn’t interfering with team affairs? Certainly explains Hurst’s total dismantling of the team. |  |
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| Having read Keanes comments on 21:06 - Aug 26 with 3040 views | reusersfreekicks |
Not convinced tbh |  | | |
| Having read Keanes comments on 21:12 - Aug 26 with 3006 views | hype313 |
Hmm, every other manager waxed lyrical about the fact that Evans was a hands off owner, even too hands off for some.
Keane really had his trousers pulled down as a manager here, it pretty much killed his long term aspirations off and has never really recovered from it, can't blame him for trying to throw others under the bus. |  |
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| Having read Keanes comments on 21:13 - Aug 26 with 2991 views | ipswichtillidie |
Tbf to Evans Keane was playing 4 CB across the back 4 at that time!! Even Evans could spot that one ! |  |
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| Having read Keanes comments on 21:24 - Aug 26 with 2936 views | Darth_Koont |
In my job which is pretty specialised, I play along with various customers and senior people because a) they sometimes have good ideas or give an interesting insight despite knowing nothing about my job and b) I want them to feel involved because it’s ultimately a joint effort.
If I were Keane, I’d have humoured Evans and talked about it. Then did what I was probably going to do anyway. It costs nothing and I bet Mick was more like that. You can be relaxed about that sort of stuff if you’re confident you know what you’re doing – and we’ve had a few too many managers over the past 15 years who haven’t been confident enough, whether through lack of experience or just not coping with setbacks. |  |
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| Having read Keanes comments on 21:35 - Aug 26 with 2872 views | Swansea_Blue |
He could look at it all he wanted, he won't have understood it. And then he won't have been around in the week to do anything about it.
Good riddance as far as I'm concerned. It's obviously good for the club that he wrote of the debt, so on one level I think he meant well, but it was his poor leadership that led to (much of) the debt in the first place. |  |
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| Having read Keanes comments on 21:57 - Aug 26 with 2785 views | BelsteadCav |
I actually thought Keane came across quite well |  |
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| Having read Keanes comments on 22:28 - Aug 26 with 2692 views | BlueBadger |
In all fairness, when he told Lambert to stop playing Lambingo, our results improved. |  |
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| Having read Keanes comments on 22:41 - Aug 26 with 2649 views | BlueBadger |
| Having read Keanes comments on 21:57 - Aug 26 by BelsteadCav |
I actually thought Keane came across quite well |
He is VERY good at pressers.
And famous. | |
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| Having read Keanes comments on 22:46 - Aug 26 with 2633 views | BlueBadger |
| Having read Keanes comments on 21:13 - Aug 26 by ipswichtillidie |
Tbf to Evans Keane was playing 4 CB across the back 4 at that time!! Even Evans could spot that one ! |
4 CBs and 4 CMs. But, he was very famous. | |
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| Having read Keanes comments on 22:59 - Aug 26 with 2597 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Just seen a little of his chat with Neville on SSN.
Shows good awareness of how others see him. Just not enough awareness to accept it as true. Says he believes he can manage and wants the chance to do so. Surely there isn't a Chairman at any club stupid enough to give him that chance is there? |  |
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| Having read Keanes comments on 23:19 - Aug 26 with 2538 views | BlueBadger |
| Having read Keanes comments on 21:12 - Aug 26 by hype313 |
Hmm, every other manager waxed lyrical about the fact that Evans was a hands off owner, even too hands off for some.
Keane really had his trousers pulled down as a manager here, it pretty much killed his long term aspirations off and has never really recovered from it, can't blame him for trying to throw others under the bus. |
The way I'm reading this is that the only two managers that Evans has ever intervened with at first team level have been Keane and Lambert -Keane apparently by his own admission and Lambert when he very conspicuously stopped doing 'Lambingo'.
These two were also our worst two managers ever.
It says a lot that these two were so bad that even our famously football illiterate former owner had to intervene at first team level to try and stop the rot. | |
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| Having read Keanes comments on 23:21 - Aug 26 with 2525 views | Scuzzer |
| Having read Keanes comments on 21:13 - Aug 26 by ipswichtillidie |
Tbf to Evans Keane was playing 4 CB across the back 4 at that time!! Even Evans could spot that one ! |
I think a couple of times there was a back five of centre backs. |  |
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| Having read Keanes comments on 23:35 - Aug 26 with 2499 views | Churchman |
| Having read Keanes comments on 21:35 - Aug 26 by Swansea_Blue |
He could look at it all he wanted, he won't have understood it. And then he won't have been around in the week to do anything about it.
Good riddance as far as I'm concerned. It's obviously good for the club that he wrote of the debt, so on one level I think he meant well, but it was his poor leadership that led to (much of) the debt in the first place. |
That’ll be the debt that he bought out at a discounted rate and he then charged interest on? Evans meant well towards Evans. This thank Marcus stuff really annoys me. Thanks to him we were left with a club rotten to the core marooned in the middle of League 1. Decaying stadium, no structure, a string of rubbish appointments and up to this season a comedy squad. Hopefully that is now changing, please god the results begin to change too.
‘Thank you Marcus’? How about please disappear Marcus. Keane, who couldn’t manage a drink up in a brewery was a symptom of the problem. Why? Because nobody sane would ever have appointed him.
You are right. Good riddance. [Post edited 26 Aug 2021 23:37]
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| Having read Keanes comments on 23:50 - Aug 26 with 2451 views | BlueBadger |
| Having read Keanes comments on 22:59 - Aug 26 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Just seen a little of his chat with Neville on SSN.
Shows good awareness of how others see him. Just not enough awareness to accept it as true. Says he believes he can manage and wants the chance to do so. Surely there isn't a Chairman at any club stupid enough to give him that chance is there? |
He is VERY famous. | |
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| Having read Keanes comments on 02:23 - Aug 27 with 2321 views | Illinoisblue |
| Having read Keanes comments on 21:35 - Aug 26 by Swansea_Blue |
He could look at it all he wanted, he won't have understood it. And then he won't have been around in the week to do anything about it.
Good riddance as far as I'm concerned. It's obviously good for the club that he wrote of the debt, so on one level I think he meant well, but it was his poor leadership that led to (much of) the debt in the first place. |
He pulled off the cunning trick of killing us while keeping us alive at the same time |  |
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| Having read Keanes comments on 06:38 - Aug 27 with 2164 views | PrideOfTheEast |
He definitely wasn’t under Keane. Was more an education thing.
Later on it was pretty obvious that Lambert should just have been sacked rather than being told by a less than savvy owner what style of play to adopt etc. |  | | |
| Having read Keanes comments on 07:42 - Aug 27 with 2044 views | Herbivore |
| Having read Keanes comments on 23:35 - Aug 26 by Churchman |
That’ll be the debt that he bought out at a discounted rate and he then charged interest on? Evans meant well towards Evans. This thank Marcus stuff really annoys me. Thanks to him we were left with a club rotten to the core marooned in the middle of League 1. Decaying stadium, no structure, a string of rubbish appointments and up to this season a comedy squad. Hopefully that is now changing, please god the results begin to change too.
‘Thank you Marcus’? How about please disappear Marcus. Keane, who couldn’t manage a drink up in a brewery was a symptom of the problem. Why? Because nobody sane would ever have appointed him.
You are right. Good riddance. [Post edited 26 Aug 2021 23:37]
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He purchased about £30m worth of debt. The rest came from him sinking £6m a year into the club for over a decade to cover our running costs. He was a poor owner who made a number of terrible choices but it shows a real lack of class trying to downplay the financial contribution he made, and ultimately wrote off in the selling of the club. |  |
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| Having read Keanes comments on 08:51 - Aug 27 with 1907 views | IpswichKnight |
He still didn’t play a midfield 3 of Douglas, Skuse and Hyam against a team even worse than us when we got relegated, a team so bad they lost to every team in the league that year bar 1. A team that had to be rescued by a extra time equaliser. Yep big Mick still has the honour of picking the worst midfield combination in the club’s history for that game against Rotherham, | | | |
| Having read Keanes comments on 09:10 - Aug 27 with 1823 views | DanTheMan |
| Having read Keanes comments on 08:51 - Aug 27 by IpswichKnight |
He still didn’t play a midfield 3 of Douglas, Skuse and Hyam against a team even worse than us when we got relegated, a team so bad they lost to every team in the league that year bar 1. A team that had to be rescued by a extra time equaliser. Yep big Mick still has the honour of picking the worst midfield combination in the club’s history for that game against Rotherham, |
Wow, you must REALLY hate MM.
Mick McCarthy is just a much better manager than Keane, it's not even comparable. |  |
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| Having read Keanes comments on 09:48 - Aug 27 with 1746 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| Having read Keanes comments on 07:42 - Aug 27 by Herbivore |
He purchased about £30m worth of debt. The rest came from him sinking £6m a year into the club for over a decade to cover our running costs. He was a poor owner who made a number of terrible choices but it shows a real lack of class trying to downplay the financial contribution he made, and ultimately wrote off in the selling of the club. |
True, but by contrast, by not selling us at an earlier stage (and we have it on decent authority that there were interested parties) despite clearly being incapable of or not sufficiently interested in turning things around, it's arguable that he did us a number of years' worth of unnecessary further damage. [Post edited 27 Aug 2021 9:48]
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| Having read Keanes comments on 09:51 - Aug 27 with 1713 views | BlueBadger |
| Having read Keanes comments on 08:51 - Aug 27 by IpswichKnight |
He still didn’t play a midfield 3 of Douglas, Skuse and Hyam against a team even worse than us when we got relegated, a team so bad they lost to every team in the league that year bar 1. A team that had to be rescued by a extra time equaliser. Yep big Mick still has the honour of picking the worst midfield combination in the club’s history for that game against Rotherham, |
Show us on on the doll where the grumpy yorkshireman being more competent than than the famous Irishman touched you. | |
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| Having read Keanes comments on 09:52 - Aug 27 with 1709 views | BlueBadger |
| Having read Keanes comments on 09:10 - Aug 27 by DanTheMan |
Wow, you must REALLY hate MM.
Mick McCarthy is just a much better manager than Keane, it's not even comparable. |
I must have missed all the attractive football we played under Keane's '4 centre halves, 4 centre mids' formation. | |
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| Having read Keanes comments on 09:52 - Aug 27 with 1712 views | hype313 |
| Having read Keanes comments on 09:48 - Aug 27 by FoghornGleghorn |
True, but by contrast, by not selling us at an earlier stage (and we have it on decent authority that there were interested parties) despite clearly being incapable of or not sufficiently interested in turning things around, it's arguable that he did us a number of years' worth of unnecessary further damage. [Post edited 27 Aug 2021 9:48]
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He was like someone at a Poker table who keeps checking in the hope that his paltry hand will reap a lucky dividend, can't really blame him though given how much he threw at it. | |
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| Having read Keanes comments on 10:19 - Aug 27 with 1630 views | solemio |
| Having read Keanes comments on 23:50 - Aug 26 by BlueBadger |
He is VERY famous. |
Keane? Keane?
No, doesn't ring any bells. | | | |
| Having read Keanes comments on 10:26 - Aug 27 with 1609 views | Chrisd |
In hindsight, ME should've been concentrating more on how to run and manage a football club efficiently that would've served him far better than discussing first team tactics. [Post edited 27 Aug 2021 10:29]
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