| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? 21:35 - Aug 31 with 2914 views | ElderGrizzly |
Final action of the window with Morsy according to Ashton
So that means we are keeping Holy, Jackson and Kenlock?
All these players don’t fit into a squad limit of 22… |  | | |  |
| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:37 - Aug 31 with 2078 views | Guthrum |
Might mean final incoming action.
Late releases may just not be announced until tomorrow. |  |
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| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:38 - Aug 31 with 2068 views | pointofblue |
I expect us to keep Holy.
We've been trying to get Kenlock to go so I wouldn't be surprised if we settle his contract.
Jackson's been used as a sub due to the number of injuries we've had up front. If we were going to release him why take up his option? |  |
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| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:39 - Aug 31 with 2066 views | ElderGrizzly |
| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:37 - Aug 31 by Guthrum |
Might mean final incoming action.
Late releases may just not be announced until tomorrow. |
“While I cannot rule them out, any outgoings in the final hours of the transfer window are highly unlikely” - Ashton statement just now | | | |
| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:40 - Aug 31 with 2037 views | ElderGrizzly |
| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:38 - Aug 31 by pointofblue |
I expect us to keep Holy.
We've been trying to get Kenlock to go so I wouldn't be surprised if we settle his contract.
Jackson's been used as a sub due to the number of injuries we've had up front. If we were going to release him why take up his option? |
Be interesting who makes the final 22, as Cook is going to have a fair few senior players who can do nothing but U23 until January
Jackson option was simply to protect value | | | |
| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:41 - Aug 31 with 2018 views | Guthrum |
| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:39 - Aug 31 by ElderGrizzly |
“While I cannot rule them out, any outgoings in the final hours of the transfer window are highly unlikely” - Ashton statement just now |
Hadn't seen that bit. Some people are going to find themselves marooned in the U23s/Trophy games. | |
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| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:44 - Aug 31 with 1973 views | chrismakin |
| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:41 - Aug 31 by Guthrum |
Hadn't seen that bit. Some people are going to find themselves marooned in the U23s/Trophy games. |
What happened to September being open for loans... i could have sworn Mick used to talk about it a lot... |  |
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| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:46 - Aug 31 with 1973 views | jayessess |
| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:39 - Aug 31 by ElderGrizzly |
“While I cannot rule them out, any outgoings in the final hours of the transfer window are highly unlikely” - Ashton statement just now |
Kenlock and Jackson situation is a very odd state of affairs. Having failed to sell them, I can't see what sense it would've made to either party not to just settle their contracts? |  |
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| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:47 - Aug 31 with 1944 views | ElderGrizzly |
| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:44 - Aug 31 by chrismakin |
What happened to September being open for loans... i could have sworn Mick used to talk about it a lot... |
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| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:48 - Aug 31 with 1936 views | Guthrum |
| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:44 - Aug 31 by chrismakin |
What happened to September being open for loans... i could have sworn Mick used to talk about it a lot... |
That stopped about four years ago.
Mind you, "Emergency" Loans were always a bit of a farce. | |
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| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:49 - Aug 31 with 1909 views | chrismakin |
| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:46 - Aug 31 by jayessess |
Kenlock and Jackson situation is a very odd state of affairs. Having failed to sell them, I can't see what sense it would've made to either party not to just settle their contracts? |
Maybe they will now.. afterall why do that until its confirmed no.1 wants to pay..
They can be signed as free agents so could happen | |
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| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:49 - Aug 31 with 1918 views | monty_radio |
| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:46 - Aug 31 by jayessess |
Kenlock and Jackson situation is a very odd state of affairs. Having failed to sell them, I can't see what sense it would've made to either party not to just settle their contracts? |
Can that not be done any time if both parties agree? | |
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| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:53 - Aug 31 with 1878 views | Guthrum |
| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:46 - Aug 31 by jayessess |
Kenlock and Jackson situation is a very odd state of affairs. Having failed to sell them, I can't see what sense it would've made to either party not to just settle their contracts? |
Unless the player is released during the transfer window, they do not count as a free agent available for signing at any other time. Thus it had to be done today or they can't play for anyone else until at least January. | |
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| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:54 - Aug 31 with 1861 views | BlueyandCrazy |
Only failing in window is not getting them out - will settle for that | |
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| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:54 - Aug 31 with 1856 views | jayessess |
| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:49 - Aug 31 by chrismakin |
Maybe they will now.. afterall why do that until its confirmed no.1 wants to pay..
They can be signed as free agents so could happen |
As I understand it if released now they couldn't sign for anyone else until January. That means it'd be more expensive to settle their contract after tonight because we'd be denying them the chance to earn anything between now and the window opening. | |
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| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:56 - Aug 31 with 1835 views | ElderGrizzly |
| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:53 - Aug 31 by Guthrum |
Unless the player is released during the transfer window, they do not count as a free agent available for signing at any other time. Thus it had to be done today or they can't play for anyone else until at least January. |
And I do feel sorry for them. 3 months of not being able to play a meaningful game is tough. | | | |
| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:56 - Aug 31 with 1821 views | chrismakin |
| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:54 - Aug 31 by jayessess |
As I understand it if released now they couldn't sign for anyone else until January. That means it'd be more expensive to settle their contract after tonight because we'd be denying them the chance to earn anything between now and the window opening. |
Oh really. How odd then. | |
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| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 22:00 - Aug 31 with 1801 views | jayessess |
| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:56 - Aug 31 by ElderGrizzly |
And I do feel sorry for them. 3 months of not being able to play a meaningful game is tough. |
Equally if they were desperate to get out they probably could've managed it? Highly unlikely we've priced them out of a move I would imagine. | |
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| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 22:01 - Aug 31 with 1790 views | ElderGrizzly |
| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 22:00 - Aug 31 by jayessess |
Equally if they were desperate to get out they probably could've managed it? Highly unlikely we've priced them out of a move I would imagine. |
We took the option on Jackson’s contract | | | |
| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 22:06 - Aug 31 with 1762 views | jayessess |
| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 22:01 - Aug 31 by ElderGrizzly |
We took the option on Jackson’s contract |
I imagine we'd have taken close to nothing at the end of the window? So he'd be more or less able to behave as a free agent. [Post edited 31 Aug 2021 22:06]
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| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 22:13 - Aug 31 with 1718 views | ElderGrizzly |
| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 22:06 - Aug 31 by jayessess |
I imagine we'd have taken close to nothing at the end of the window? So he'd be more or less able to behave as a free agent. [Post edited 31 Aug 2021 22:06]
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Heck of a fall for him given we were being offered £1m last summer | | | |
| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 22:16 - Aug 31 with 1694 views | tractordownsouth |
I think we’ll see Holy, Jackson and Kenlock get a last minute transfer to Mutual Consent FC |  |
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| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 22:23 - Aug 31 with 1658 views | Alberto_the_frog |
The 22 Don't include goalkeepers, loanees or those born since 1/1/2000, so I think we're OK. I make it Penney, Edmundson, Woolfenden, Toto, KVY, Burgess, Janoi, Harper, Morsy, Evans, Fraser, Nolan, Carroll, Edwards, Burns, Piggott, Nors, Chaplin, Aluko. Even room for Kenlock and Jackson. |  | | |
| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 22:36 - Aug 31 with 1618 views | ElderGrizzly |
| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 22:23 - Aug 31 by Alberto_the_frog |
The 22 Don't include goalkeepers, loanees or those born since 1/1/2000, so I think we're OK. I make it Penney, Edmundson, Woolfenden, Toto, KVY, Burgess, Janoi, Harper, Morsy, Evans, Fraser, Nolan, Carroll, Edwards, Burns, Piggott, Nors, Chaplin, Aluko. Even room for Kenlock and Jackson. |
Loans do count:
Squad Lists
43.9.1 Clubs shall be permitted to name up to a maximum number of Players in their Squad
List based on the following provisions:
(a) in respect of Championship Clubs, 25 Players of which a minimum of 8 must be a Home Grown Player; and
(b) in respect of League One and Two Clubs 22 Players of which a minimum of 8 must be a Home Grown Player.
43.9.2 The following Players do not need to be included in the Squad List to be eligible to play in League Matches:
(a) in respect of Championship Clubs, any Under 21 Player (save for any Under 21 Player who is registered with the Club on a Temporary Loan Transfer); and
(b) in respect of League One Clubs and League Two Clubs:
(i) any Under 21 Players; and
(ii) goalkeepers.
https://www.efl.com/contentassets/b3cd34c726c341ca9636610aa4503172/regulations-s
It’s 20 outfield players (over 21 yrs old) and 2 keepers. | | | |
| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 22:45 - Aug 31 with 1587 views | Sharkey |
| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 21:40 - Aug 31 by ElderGrizzly |
Be interesting who makes the final 22, as Cook is going to have a fair few senior players who can do nothing but U23 until January
Jackson option was simply to protect value |
Players can still go to the National League, and there are a lot of clubs there paying decent wages. |  | | |
| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 22:53 - Aug 31 with 1553 views | positivity |
| So, no outgoings apart from Dobra? on 22:36 - Aug 31 by ElderGrizzly |
Loans do count:
Squad Lists
43.9.1 Clubs shall be permitted to name up to a maximum number of Players in their Squad
List based on the following provisions:
(a) in respect of Championship Clubs, 25 Players of which a minimum of 8 must be a Home Grown Player; and
(b) in respect of League One and Two Clubs 22 Players of which a minimum of 8 must be a Home Grown Player.
43.9.2 The following Players do not need to be included in the Squad List to be eligible to play in League Matches:
(a) in respect of Championship Clubs, any Under 21 Player (save for any Under 21 Player who is registered with the Club on a Temporary Loan Transfer); and
(b) in respect of League One Clubs and League Two Clubs:
(i) any Under 21 Players; and
(ii) goalkeepers.
https://www.efl.com/contentassets/b3cd34c726c341ca9636610aa4503172/regulations-s
It’s 20 outfield players (over 21 yrs old) and 2 keepers. |
i read that as 22 outfield players not including goalkeepers, but i could be reading it out of context?
"The following Players do not need to be included in the Squad List to be eligible to play in League Matches:
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(i) any Under 21 Players; and
(ii) goalkeepers. | |
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