| If cars were simpler.... 08:08 - Sep 6 with 3331 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
....and made to last as well as not being regarded as a status symbol (so fewer choices) would it be a positive with regards to climate change?
#nocomputersandsensors
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| If cars were simpler.... on 11:41 - Sep 6 with 828 views | LeBlue |
| If cars were simpler.... on 09:14 - Sep 6 by ElderGrizzly |
My car had an AdBlue issue last month, where the AdBlue tank was full after a top-up, the car decided it wasn't full so the car will stop working/not start within 600 miles if not rectified.
You fix it by topping up the AdBlue, which the garage (and I) had done, but the car said it hadn't been.
So you basically had a car mechanically sound and could drive but the "computer said no" and would literally disable the car in 600 miles.
£850 to fix it 3 months out of warranty... [Post edited 6 Sep 2021 9:17]
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Had exactly the same issue with my VW Touareg. Three visits to the robbing dealership and £950 later, its now sorted. |  | | |
| If cars were simpler.... on 11:42 - Sep 6 with 823 views | Ryorry |
| If cars were simpler.... on 11:05 - Sep 6 by Bluefish |
Why would the windows be different to an ICE? |
Err - dunno if you're jesting, but this has nothing to do with ICE & everything to do with being able to wind down your windows manually as in pre-digital days - unlike digital car electronic buttons, which will not work unless electronic key in place & electrical system functioning! |  |
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| If cars were simpler.... on 11:54 - Sep 6 with 790 views | Bluefish |
| If cars were simpler.... on 11:42 - Sep 6 by Ryorry |
Err - dunno if you're jesting, but this has nothing to do with ICE & everything to do with being able to wind down your windows manually as in pre-digital days - unlike digital car electronic buttons, which will not work unless electronic key in place & electrical system functioning! |
Oh I thought you were comparing EV windows to ICE |  |
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| If cars were simpler.... on 12:06 - Sep 6 with 781 views | Ryorry |
| If cars were simpler.... on 11:54 - Sep 6 by Bluefish |
Oh I thought you were comparing EV windows to ICE |
That would make you a T V V T. | |
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| If cars were simpler.... on 12:08 - Sep 6 with 770 views | Bluefish |
| If cars were simpler.... on 12:06 - Sep 6 by Ryorry |
That would make you a T V V T. |
You've lost me | |
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| If cars were simpler.... on 12:10 - Sep 6 with 773 views | Ryorry |
| If cars were simpler.... on 12:08 - Sep 6 by Bluefish |
You've lost me |
Not for the first time I imagine! 
Go back & re-read my first post on the thread (if you're being serious). | |
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| If cars were simpler.... on 12:13 - Sep 6 with 770 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| If cars were simpler.... on 11:14 - Sep 6 by solomon |
You could give up all your media devices? |
And give up the greater good of influencing you lot!! | |
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| If cars were simpler.... on 12:35 - Sep 6 with 740 views | WeWereZombies |
| If cars were simpler.... on 10:48 - Sep 6 by solomon |
I think what your looking for is in effect a 21st century version of a Trabant.
Simple transportation and basic mechanicals are done, it’s dead technology. |
21st Century Trabant sounds like a good title for an episode of Dr. Who...or a Rammstein cover of T.Rex
On the subject of status symbols, I had someone asking jealous questions about my motor on Saturday as the particular model is, in his words, 'like gold dust'. So if anyone knows any young mums who really want to cut a dash on the school run my ten year old Skoda Octavia is available for hire:
4x4 - check
diesel - check
runners for roof bars - check (I can attach the roof bars and a kayak for an additional fee) |  |
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| If cars were simpler.... on 13:04 - Sep 6 with 714 views | solomon |
| If cars were simpler.... on 12:13 - Sep 6 by BanksterDebtSlave |
And give up the greater good of influencing you lot!! |
Entertaining I think you mean…..bless ya |  | | |
| If cars were simpler.... on 13:22 - Sep 6 with 715 views | blueasfook |
Sounds like PeoplesCar socialist nonsense.
What would it be called? The Corbyn Car or something? [Post edited 6 Sep 2021 13:22]
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| If cars were simpler.... on 13:41 - Sep 6 with 678 views | Bluefish |
| If cars were simpler.... on 12:10 - Sep 6 by Ryorry |
Not for the first time I imagine!
Go back & re-read my first post on the thread (if you're being serious). |
Still no clue | |
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| If cars were simpler.... on 13:45 - Sep 6 with 678 views | The_Last_Baron |
| If cars were simpler.... on 08:36 - Sep 6 by UB9Blue |
Cars these days are superior to the one's in the 70's and 80's not just for safety.
Bodywork on these cars ended up with more filler than a Z celeb and we used to use a magnet to check the bodywork.
Various 'scrappage' schemes over the years also helped remove most older cars off the roads and replaced them with better quality and less polluting vehicles. |
I respectively disagree Sir. Cars pre-2003 were generally better than since then. Too many electrics in modern cars which will fail sooner of later.
If you find a good mid-late 90s Honda, Volvo or the like, snap it up and it'll never let you down. Few electrics and you can get at the engine yourself to fix minor problems. On modern cars, the smallest issue requires a trip to the dealer and an inflated bill.
There are some good modern cars for sure, but they are not built to last the way some older models were. |  |
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| If cars were simpler.... on 13:46 - Sep 6 with 678 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| If cars were simpler.... on 13:22 - Sep 6 by blueasfook |
Sounds like PeoplesCar socialist nonsense.
What would it be called? The Corbyn Car or something? [Post edited 6 Sep 2021 13:22]
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A bus! | |
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| If cars were simpler.... on 14:05 - Sep 6 with 653 views | shady |
Yes, the good old trusted Number 11 bus
(that's both legs) non pedestrians might have needed the explanation |  | | |
| If cars were simpler.... on 14:23 - Sep 6 with 642 views | factual_blue |
| If cars were simpler.... on 13:22 - Sep 6 by blueasfook |
Sounds like PeoplesCar socialist nonsense.
What would it be called? The Corbyn Car or something? [Post edited 6 Sep 2021 13:22]
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The West Suffolk Potholer GTi |  |
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| If cars were simpler.... on 14:44 - Sep 6 with 630 views | TractorBoyOlly |
Crazy idea and i'm not an engineer but surely it would be cheaper to convert existing engines into hybrid/electric models than force everybody who needs a vehicle to buy unaffordable electric cars and charging points etc?
Just a whimsical idea and will probably be shot down by an engineer, we're going to be in for a bit of a shock in the next 10 years or so if the infrastructure doesn't develop. |  |
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| If cars were simpler.... on 16:22 - Sep 6 with 611 views | bluelagos |
Clearly.
I know more about motorbikes than cars, but the high tech is often utter bollox. I have an electronic dash on my KTM which when the display cuts out means I have no speed or fuel indication.
It has a 3mm crack on it, that if water gets in, will mean the dash cuts out until it dries out. The cost to repair has been quoted as £700 + labour. So an £800 repair for a 3mm crack on something I don't even value.
If anyone can convince me this technology is better for me, or for the environment, I'd be surprised.
Some sad sacks get all excited cos their bike has an electronic dash, just as some sad sacks wax lyrical about their car having Led headlights or whatever gives them a boner.
You may have guessed am not a big fan of much technology on vehicles that serves little purpose other than massaging a rider/drivers ego without making the bike/car materially better. And we all have to pay for it cos we don't get much choice as these "innovations" quickly become standard. |  |
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| If cars were simpler.... on 16:48 - Sep 6 with 593 views | Bluefish |
| If cars were simpler.... on 16:22 - Sep 6 by bluelagos |
Clearly.
I know more about motorbikes than cars, but the high tech is often utter bollox. I have an electronic dash on my KTM which when the display cuts out means I have no speed or fuel indication.
It has a 3mm crack on it, that if water gets in, will mean the dash cuts out until it dries out. The cost to repair has been quoted as £700 + labour. So an £800 repair for a 3mm crack on something I don't even value.
If anyone can convince me this technology is better for me, or for the environment, I'd be surprised.
Some sad sacks get all excited cos their bike has an electronic dash, just as some sad sacks wax lyrical about their car having Led headlights or whatever gives them a boner.
You may have guessed am not a big fan of much technology on vehicles that serves little purpose other than massaging a rider/drivers ego without making the bike/car materially better. And we all have to pay for it cos we don't get much choice as these "innovations" quickly become standard. |
I replace my car every 9 months and will change next week to the same car as I have now. It use to be 6 months and for a long time was every 9 months. I still love seeing what has changed from car to car with little tweaks and improvements. I only really have the same 2 types of cars and they are both miles different to the exact same cars from 2-3 years ago | |
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| If cars were simpler.... on 16:56 - Sep 6 with 596 views | HARRY10 |
| If cars were simpler.... on 08:36 - Sep 6 by UB9Blue |
Cars these days are superior to the one's in the 70's and 80's not just for safety.
Bodywork on these cars ended up with more filler than a Z celeb and we used to use a magnet to check the bodywork.
Various 'scrappage' schemes over the years also helped remove most older cars off the roads and replaced them with better quality and less polluting vehicles. |
the flaw there is that it is stated that a car uses more energy (fossil fuel) in its production than in its life driving
not sure of the accuracy, but I am certain that various measures to 'get old cars of the road' was driven by a need to stimulate the market, rather than any guff about the environment.
it is that need for the markets to thrive that causes the pollution problems we now face | | | |
| If cars were simpler.... on 17:00 - Sep 6 with 596 views | J2BLUE |
Yes. Each to their own but I will never understand people who lease their car and change it every 2-3 years. Unless their company is paying for it. I know people paying stupid monthly fees on leases they can't really afford. |  |
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| If cars were simpler.... on 17:19 - Sep 6 with 576 views | solomon |
Actually that’s not a bad idea. I must admit I’ve started to leave the car at hone if I need to pop into town for things such as a haircut or the like, it’s so easy, quick and convenient. It may not have quiet the environmental impact (it’s never ever full) but it’s a start I guess. | | | |
| If cars were simpler.... on 18:09 - Sep 6 with 553 views | WeWereZombies |
| If cars were simpler.... on 17:19 - Sep 6 by solomon |
Actually that’s not a bad idea. I must admit I’ve started to leave the car at hone if I need to pop into town for things such as a haircut or the like, it’s so easy, quick and convenient. It may not have quiet the environmental impact (it’s never ever full) but it’s a start I guess. |
I have a sort of self government policy, if a car journey would be a mile (i.e. two miles there and back) I walk. For me a miles walk takes between fifteen and twenty minutes, which when you take into account the faff of getting into the car and putting on a seat belt before pulling out and negotiating traffic before hunting around for a parking space at the other end is probably only an extra five minutes of travel time. Plus I get some exercise, and as you say I do a little bit to lessen the impact on the environment. | |
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| If cars were simpler.... on 18:25 - Sep 6 with 546 views | bluelagos |
| If cars were simpler.... on 18:09 - Sep 6 by WeWereZombies |
I have a sort of self government policy, if a car journey would be a mile (i.e. two miles there and back) I walk. For me a miles walk takes between fifteen and twenty minutes, which when you take into account the faff of getting into the car and putting on a seat belt before pulling out and negotiating traffic before hunting around for a parking space at the other end is probably only an extra five minutes of travel time. Plus I get some exercise, and as you say I do a little bit to lessen the impact on the environment. |
There's a scary stat that something like a 1/3 of all journeys are less than 3 miles. | |
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| If cars were simpler.... on 18:34 - Sep 6 with 535 views | WeWereZombies |
| If cars were simpler.... on 18:25 - Sep 6 by bluelagos |
There's a scary stat that something like a 1/3 of all journeys are less than 3 miles. |
I suspect that a fair few of those three mile journeys are down to getting a mile and a half from home and realising you have left your mobile / wallet / condoms / suppositories / packed lunch on the hall table. I do wonder how far I would have to be before I noticed I had left the phone at home but couldn't be bothered to turn around.
Never hear about anyone returning home because they have forgotten the car keys though. | |
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| If cars were simpler.... on 18:37 - Sep 6 with 531 views | J2BLUE |
| If cars were simpler.... on 18:25 - Sep 6 by bluelagos |
There's a scary stat that something like a 1/3 of all journeys are less than 3 miles. |
Meaningless stat.
How many car journeys are equivalent to a flight to Argentina (sorry but it's obligatory)? | |
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