| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. 18:08 - Oct 9 with 3720 views | Wallingford_Boy |
You lot are looking a bit silly now.
All aboard the play off push!
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| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 22:28 - Oct 9 with 1276 views | ronnyd |
| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 21:50 - Oct 9 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Personally, I find it tedious that everyone has to be in one camp or the other.
Why can't we be unhappy with being where we are? Why can't we be pleased with our current form?
If we continue to be where we are in the table and/or lower, it is not good enough. If we continue with the improvement and get promoted, it is job done for this season.
There is so much desperation to be the first person to have called it right. I couldn't see Cook fixing it after Bolton. I am delighted if he goes on to prove me wrong. Currently, I think the jury remains out (or is out again as I had returned a verdict after Bolton, personally). |
That's a laudable statement there Nthsuffolkblue, but sadly many on here now like to shout down anyone who has a differing opinion to them. |  | | |
| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 22:35 - Oct 9 with 1274 views | Herbivore |
| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 22:18 - Oct 9 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I down-arrowed it because I never have done. I specifically said that, although it was embarrassing for the team that took the field against the WHam kids to lose to them, the result was meaningless and it is even more embarrassing that a match against a youth team is a first team fixture for us in the first place. I have not counted the Mickey Mouse cups in any manager's record. |
Those who have been worried about Cook's record here don't need to mention meaingless pizza cup games to bolster their case. The whole "you'd be going on about it if we'd lost" is nonsense, since we did lose to West Ham kids and not much was really said about it. A few complained about not fielding a stronger side, but I wasn't one of them.
This need to split fans into in/out camps constantly is very bizarre. One or two notable exceptions aside we all want Cook to succeed here but so far he hasn't, in fact his record has been really poor. That can still change but it hasn't changed yet. Some people went hard after the Donny win on how they'd been right all along and Cook was making us world beaters and one game later that looked rather silly. Just enjoy the win and hope it turns into a series of wins, something that we've not managed at all in Cook's pushing 30 games in charge. [Post edited 9 Oct 2021 22:37]
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| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 23:54 - Oct 9 with 1218 views | Kropotkin123 |
Alright Wally, I know you liked Guinness last season. Who's your favourite so far this season? |  |
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| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 00:06 - Oct 10 with 1216 views | MaySixth |
| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 20:56 - Oct 9 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I really do hope my feelings after the Bolton result do make me look silly in May.
However, I don't feel like 14th place, 13 points from 11 matches or even a decent 5-match league run are enough to do that.
A further 35-match run of equal or better form and yes, I will look silly for wanting him out after Bolton. And I will be delighted to look silly then, too. |
I like winning ugly. |  |
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| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 09:26 - Oct 10 with 1149 views | Funge |
| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 20:56 - Oct 9 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I really do hope my feelings after the Bolton result do make me look silly in May.
However, I don't feel like 14th place, 13 points from 11 matches or even a decent 5-match league run are enough to do that.
A further 35-match run of equal or better form and yes, I will look silly for wanting him out after Bolton. And I will be delighted to look silly then, too. |
Absolutely agree with this. |  | | |
| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 09:33 - Oct 10 with 1142 views | braveblue |
| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 18:55 - Oct 9 by Swansea_Blue |
Nobody's looking silly. We've got 10 points in the last 6 league games, so 1.66 pts/game. It's a huge improvement and a good sign (long may it last, etc.). Yet that still isn't enough to guarantee a playoff place. We were looking at needing something like 1.7+ points per game just to make the playoffs last time we went through this a couple of matches gao.
We've certainly take a step in the right direction after beating the bottom 2 sides. Now we need to start doing it against everyone. If we do that, then you can come back and do whatever it is you're trying to do now. [Post edited 9 Oct 2021 18:56]
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10 points in last 5. 2 PGs per game. Pretty good. | | | |
| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 10:43 - Oct 10 with 1119 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 23:54 - Oct 9 by Kropotkin123 |
Alright Wally, I know you liked Guinness last season. Who's your favourite so far this season? |
Burgess.
Proper centre back. | |
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| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 12:53 - Oct 10 with 1082 views | positivity |
| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 22:35 - Oct 9 by Herbivore |
Those who have been worried about Cook's record here don't need to mention meaingless pizza cup games to bolster their case. The whole "you'd be going on about it if we'd lost" is nonsense, since we did lose to West Ham kids and not much was really said about it. A few complained about not fielding a stronger side, but I wasn't one of them.
This need to split fans into in/out camps constantly is very bizarre. One or two notable exceptions aside we all want Cook to succeed here but so far he hasn't, in fact his record has been really poor. That can still change but it hasn't changed yet. Some people went hard after the Donny win on how they'd been right all along and Cook was making us world beaters and one game later that looked rather silly. Just enjoy the win and hope it turns into a series of wins, something that we've not managed at all in Cook's pushing 30 games in charge. [Post edited 9 Oct 2021 22:37]
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i agree with not wanting to split people into in and out, we're all ipswich, we've more in common etc.
however some posters were using pizza (and fizzy pop) cup games to pillory cook, so it's a bit daft to call people "desperate" for doing the same thing!
Some fans looking too lightly on firing a manager by BlueySwede 15 Sep 2021 8:20We are in the middle of September. Six league games into the season, after a massive overhaul of players. Talking about firing Cook at this stage is just premature.
If we are still not showing signs of improving (including a few wins) after 14-15 games, then ok, the owners will do something.
Sacking Cook now? That could be very risky with several players having stated the main reason they have signed for us was the oppurtunity to work with Cook (and a few of them haven´t got on the pitch yet, or just barely).
Can´t say that I´m not worried or sure that all will work out for Cook, but I am so tired of the short sightedness of some fans. At least do not hit the panic button just yet.
i'll stick to 3 wins in 5, which is progress, however you spin it! [Post edited 10 Oct 2021 12:53]
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| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 18:36 - Oct 10 with 1022 views | reusersfreekicks |
| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 21:11 - Oct 9 by Terra_Farma |
Herbivore is a be.ll end.
The vast majority of regular posters on this forum are wind up merchants and need to have their daily troll fix. |
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| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 19:09 - Oct 10 with 1000 views | Keaneish |
| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 20:56 - Oct 9 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I really do hope my feelings after the Bolton result do make me look silly in May.
However, I don't feel like 14th place, 13 points from 11 matches or even a decent 5-match league run are enough to do that.
A further 35-match run of equal or better form and yes, I will look silly for wanting him out after Bolton. And I will be delighted to look silly then, too. |
So you’re basically covering all bases in an attempt not to make yourself look silly? Calling for him to leave after Bolton was ridiculous - no need to wait on results to know that. |  |
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| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 19:23 - Oct 10 with 996 views | Kropotkin123 |
Think TF was just being a wind up merchant to get in their daily troll fix... | |
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| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 19:49 - Oct 10 with 980 views | Cuffy81 |
| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 18:39 - Oct 9 by Herbivore |
We're including pizza cup games now? Desperate times. |
If we had lost the pizza cup you'd be rolling it out in the negative narrative. Can't have it both ways, its 4 win in 6 try and enjoy it 😴 | | | |
| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 20:40 - Oct 10 with 944 views | Funge |
| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 19:09 - Oct 10 by Keaneish |
So you’re basically covering all bases in an attempt not to make yourself look silly? Calling for him to leave after Bolton was ridiculous - no need to wait on results to know that. |
It wasn't - we were a total shambles; this after 2 uninterrupted weeks on the training pitch.
I want Cook to succeed, a lot, because this football team have pure form for failure these past 15 years, and I'm more than sick of it.
Win next week, and we've had an average start to the season. We need to be a lot better than average. [Post edited 10 Oct 2021 20:43]
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| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 21:07 - Oct 10 with 912 views | jayessess |
| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 20:40 - Oct 10 by Funge |
It wasn't - we were a total shambles; this after 2 uninterrupted weeks on the training pitch.
I want Cook to succeed, a lot, because this football team have pure form for failure these past 15 years, and I'm more than sick of it.
Win next week, and we've had an average start to the season. We need to be a lot better than average. [Post edited 10 Oct 2021 20:43]
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I mean, if we ultimately don't improve enough and have to sack Cook we aren't going to look back and say "cor, glad we gave him a few months to fail and made sure the season was properly over before we got rid." |  |
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| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 21:08 - Oct 10 with 908 views | Keaneish |
| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 20:40 - Oct 10 by Funge |
It wasn't - we were a total shambles; this after 2 uninterrupted weeks on the training pitch.
I want Cook to succeed, a lot, because this football team have pure form for failure these past 15 years, and I'm more than sick of it.
Win next week, and we've had an average start to the season. We need to be a lot better than average. [Post edited 10 Oct 2021 20:43]
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Can you imagine the disarray the club would be in should Cook have been sacked after Bolton? All credibility of the board’s words wiped out before the season had got under way. A raft of players loyal to Cook who dropped a division or standard to play for him disillusioned or out-in-the-cold. A squad assembled to play a system and / or familiar with that system needing to readjust. Turmoil amongst fans and disharmony in PR after a wave of optimism.
To say it’s a ridiculous call would be a gross understatement. The lack of patience is in one part understandable given our lack of success but also deplorable as it’s symptomatic of modern football ills.
2 pts a game from here on in which started Saturday. That should be everyone’s focus now as 82 pts is typically good enough for third or fourth. Naturally we want top two so anything over that average puts us on course. Win Saturday and we head to Pompey on a mini-run ahead of the target. Our season has started now, no more excuses. [Post edited 10 Oct 2021 21:12]
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| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 21:14 - Oct 10 with 901 views | Funge |
| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 21:08 - Oct 10 by Keaneish |
Can you imagine the disarray the club would be in should Cook have been sacked after Bolton? All credibility of the board’s words wiped out before the season had got under way. A raft of players loyal to Cook who dropped a division or standard to play for him disillusioned or out-in-the-cold. A squad assembled to play a system and / or familiar with that system needing to readjust. Turmoil amongst fans and disharmony in PR after a wave of optimism.
To say it’s a ridiculous call would be a gross understatement. The lack of patience is in one part understandable given our lack of success but also deplorable as it’s symptomatic of modern football ills.
2 pts a game from here on in which started Saturday. That should be everyone’s focus now as 82 pts is typically good enough for third or fourth. Naturally we want top two so anything over that average puts us on course. Win Saturday and we head to Pompey on a mini-run ahead of the target. Our season has started now, no more excuses. [Post edited 10 Oct 2021 21:12]
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Mate, we'd just let in 5 at home to a promoted side who almost went bust 2 years ago. We could've let in 8. You mention disarray - I can't remember it being worse at any point prior, and, let's face it, there was plenty enough competition under Hurst and Lambert.
'The lack of patience is in one part understandable given our lack of success but also deplorable as it’s symptomatic of modern football ills.'
Fair enough, I suppose - but Cook really doesn't have any more excuses. He's been backed to an absurd degree at this level - owners, players and fans are all on board - anyone looking at our business dealings over the past 6 months, who is then thinking that this is a 'slow burn' or long-term project, is fundamentally missing the point of why the Yanks are here.
EDIT - you didnt want disarray, oops. [Post edited 10 Oct 2021 21:23]
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| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 21:20 - Oct 10 with 897 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 19:09 - Oct 10 by Keaneish |
So you’re basically covering all bases in an attempt not to make yourself look silly? Calling for him to leave after Bolton was ridiculous - no need to wait on results to know that. |
That's your take.
Mine was that the way we had gone backwards with the Bolton result, I just couldn't see us making the progress which we appear to be now making and certainly not quickly enough. I actually said that he should be given to 10 games to get us to a minimum of 15 points and 20 games to a minimum of 25. I couldn't see him making it and so why wait? I was wrong. He has. Good for him and perhaps that means it is good I am not the man making the decisions as I would have been making that call after Bolton.
It is going to take more than the small steps we have taken so far for it to be proven to be the wrong call. I hope it will be proven to have been and I am absolutely preferring Cook to succeed than for us to have the upheaval of getting someone else in. |  |
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| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 21:21 - Oct 10 with 890 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 22:28 - Oct 9 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I didn't accuse you though. |
Ah, my mistake. I took "you lot" to mean all of us not some unspecified person who in your mind exists. | |
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| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 21:50 - Oct 10 with 872 views | Keaneish |
| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 21:14 - Oct 10 by Funge |
Mate, we'd just let in 5 at home to a promoted side who almost went bust 2 years ago. We could've let in 8. You mention disarray - I can't remember it being worse at any point prior, and, let's face it, there was plenty enough competition under Hurst and Lambert.
'The lack of patience is in one part understandable given our lack of success but also deplorable as it’s symptomatic of modern football ills.'
Fair enough, I suppose - but Cook really doesn't have any more excuses. He's been backed to an absurd degree at this level - owners, players and fans are all on board - anyone looking at our business dealings over the past 6 months, who is then thinking that this is a 'slow burn' or long-term project, is fundamentally missing the point of why the Yanks are here.
EDIT - you didnt want disarray, oops. [Post edited 10 Oct 2021 21:23]
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Completely agree. In fairness, what i do like about Cook is that he doesn’t make excuses. His assessments are normally frank and honest epitomised by his unhappiness after the win on Saturday. He has had patience and he has had backing, no question that it’s now time to deliver. Get a result on Saturday (which we should) then I see the Pompey fixture being a watershed game for so many reasons ie: his return to Fratton Park; pitting himself against the Cowleys after defeat last time out; this summer’s transfer debacle; both tipped for promotion etc…
If we get a result there, it’ll unite some on here snd set us up perfectly. Failure will make the uncertainty linger and it’ll continue to divide and blight this season. | |
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| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 22:04 - Oct 10 with 866 views | Herbivore |
| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 19:49 - Oct 10 by Cuffy81 |
If we had lost the pizza cup you'd be rolling it out in the negative narrative. Can't have it both ways, its 4 win in 6 try and enjoy it 😴 |
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| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 22:35 - Oct 10 with 842 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 21:21 - Oct 10 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Ah, my mistake. I took "you lot" to mean all of us not some unspecified person who in your mind exists. |
"You lot" referred to the negative ninnies who try to beat Cook with every stick they can find, for example including Pizza Cup games when listing his defeats but then suddenly any he wins are meaningless. Or stating that league wins were only against X, and they're rubbish. These people aren't in my head, there are plenty of examples of it as others in this thread have alluded to.
If you're not one then it wasn't aimed at you. But don't try to claim it exists only in my mind. Plenty of us have seen it on here. |  |
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| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 23:32 - Oct 10 with 823 views | Stewart27 |
WTF?
We have lost more games than we’ve won in division 3. Cook has not yet won 2 games on the bounce in division 3.
God I hope he proves me and many others wrong. I’d be happy to take a poached, boiled and fried egg, as well as a Spanish omelette right in my face. But let’s not roll out the red carpet just yet. | | | |
| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 08:12 - Oct 11 with 757 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| 4 wins in 6, just 4 conceded.. on 23:32 - Oct 10 by Stewart27 |
WTF?
We have lost more games than we’ve won in division 3. Cook has not yet won 2 games on the bounce in division 3.
God I hope he proves me and many others wrong. I’d be happy to take a poached, boiled and fried egg, as well as a Spanish omelette right in my face. But let’s not roll out the red carpet just yet. |
Who's rolling out the red carpet? | |
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