| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers 11:32 - Oct 11 with 1811 views | giant_stow |
(perhaps they'll see it later)
Is it normal for kids to have several different teachers per week? Ours already has a job share with one teacher doing 4 days a week and another doing the 5th, but when you add in absences, the boy has already had about 5 or 6 different teachers this term.
Not sure whether this is worrying or just par for the course? |  |
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| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 11:43 - Oct 11 with 1762 views | leitrimblue |
I'm not a primary school teacher, but I am standing at the edge of a forest in the middle of nowhere with very little to do so I thought I would answer anyway. I'm guessing it can't be helped, but I don't think it's a good or a 'normal' situation. Sure your son would benefit more from forming a relationship with the same 1-2 teachers. Though not sure what you can do about it |  | | |
| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 11:46 - Oct 11 with 1741 views | Bluefish |
Depends what you mean as normal
Teachers are humans like all of us and therefore have different personal circumstances, some work in job shares with other teachers. It is quite the challenge for them to balance that
Other teachers might have to step in due to ppa time or because your teacher is studying for further qualifications.
This is all very normal |  |
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| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 11:47 - Oct 11 with 1740 views | giant_stow |
| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 11:43 - Oct 11 by leitrimblue |
I'm not a primary school teacher, but I am standing at the edge of a forest in the middle of nowhere with very little to do so I thought I would answer anyway. I'm guessing it can't be helped, but I don't think it's a good or a 'normal' situation. Sure your son would benefit more from forming a relationship with the same 1-2 teachers. Though not sure what you can do about it |
Sounds lovely - how come you find yourself there? If that's private, forget me.
This is what I'm thinking about the situ too and I really don't want to kick off, as the school's been through a lot. Just getting a bit worried though, as there's been a lot of bullying issues in the class and like you say, a regular teacher or two would be better placed to deal with that. | |
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| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 11:49 - Oct 11 with 1727 views | giant_stow |
| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 11:46 - Oct 11 by Bluefish |
Depends what you mean as normal
Teachers are humans like all of us and therefore have different personal circumstances, some work in job shares with other teachers. It is quite the challenge for them to balance that
Other teachers might have to step in due to ppa time or because your teacher is studying for further qualifications.
This is all very normal |
Thanks for the answer mr - you're a governor innit?
I do want to be reasonable about this, so useful to hear there's nothing out of the ordinary from your perspective. Where would you draw the line personally? | |
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| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 11:50 - Oct 11 with 1719 views | Keno |
| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 11:43 - Oct 11 by leitrimblue |
I'm not a primary school teacher, but I am standing at the edge of a forest in the middle of nowhere with very little to do so I thought I would answer anyway. I'm guessing it can't be helped, but I don't think it's a good or a 'normal' situation. Sure your son would benefit more from forming a relationship with the same 1-2 teachers. Though not sure what you can do about it |
Shouldn't you be digging a hole or something? |  |
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| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 11:55 - Oct 11 with 1699 views | leitrimblue |
| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 11:47 - Oct 11 by giant_stow |
Sounds lovely - how come you find yourself there? If that's private, forget me.
This is what I'm thinking about the situ too and I really don't want to kick off, as the school's been through a lot. Just getting a bit worried though, as there's been a lot of bullying issues in the class and like you say, a regular teacher or two would be better placed to deal with that. |
Digging a shallow grave innit😀. I'm watching a man on a large digger excavating hundreds of meters of track into a forest prior to it's extraction. It's surrounded by archaeology on all sides and my job is to stand there an make sure they don't disturb it. In Co Leitrim and the sun is shining! I think yer right that things like bullying and other non educational issues are much more likely to be recognized by the same regular teacher [Post edited 11 Oct 2021 11:55]
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| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 11:57 - Oct 11 with 1683 views | leitrimblue |
| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 11:50 - Oct 11 by Keno |
Shouldn't you be digging a hole or something? |
Did get my spoon out and have a little poke around earlier. I don't wanna peak to soon in the day though | | | |
| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 12:03 - Oct 11 with 1662 views | Churchman |
My misses used to job share with her chum 3 and 2. Sometimes for whatever reason they’d swap days. I’m not surprised to hear of your experience.
It just sounds a bit odd to me because in the ancient times when I was at skool (a slate, chalk and liberal use of the cane, wooden board rubbers and other weapons) it wasn’t like that. |  | | |
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| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 12:08 - Oct 11 with 1627 views | Bluefish |
| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 11:49 - Oct 11 by giant_stow |
Thanks for the answer mr - you're a governor innit?
I do want to be reasonable about this, so useful to hear there's nothing out of the ordinary from your perspective. Where would you draw the line personally? |
If 5 or 6 teachers over a prolonged period then it is reasonable to question with the school but be prepared that they might not be able to change anything. You can't just bring in a new permanent teacher because one had some time off sick and it isn't a case of moving things around. Not sure how old they are but the 1st couple of years of primary especially it shouldn't make a big difference
Schools are assessed and Judge on progress and performance so if the head and governors are any good they should be monitoring already | |
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| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 12:12 - Oct 11 with 1620 views | Fixed_It |
| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 11:49 - Oct 11 by giant_stow |
Thanks for the answer mr - you're a governor innit?
I do want to be reasonable about this, so useful to hear there's nothing out of the ordinary from your perspective. Where would you draw the line personally? |
Draw the line?!
There is an issue in schools re. teacher retention, recruitment, burn out and exposure to viruses and bugs. It is not ideal, but it is what it is. I can assure you that putting teachers in front of children can be a challenge for headteachers, especially during a pandemic. I'm not sure parental complaints are going to.make things any better, and I am sure that the school are well aware that it is not ideal. |  |
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| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 12:14 - Oct 11 with 1603 views | giant_stow |
| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 11:55 - Oct 11 by leitrimblue |
Digging a shallow grave innit😀. I'm watching a man on a large digger excavating hundreds of meters of track into a forest prior to it's extraction. It's surrounded by archaeology on all sides and my job is to stand there an make sure they don't disturb it. In Co Leitrim and the sun is shining! I think yer right that things like bullying and other non educational issues are much more likely to be recognized by the same regular teacher [Post edited 11 Oct 2021 11:55]
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Glad the sun has been kind to you today mr | |
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| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 12:21 - Oct 11 with 1578 views | giant_stow |
| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 12:12 - Oct 11 by Fixed_It |
Draw the line?!
There is an issue in schools re. teacher retention, recruitment, burn out and exposure to viruses and bugs. It is not ideal, but it is what it is. I can assure you that putting teachers in front of children can be a challenge for headteachers, especially during a pandemic. I'm not sure parental complaints are going to.make things any better, and I am sure that the school are well aware that it is not ideal. |
This is why I'm seeking opinions really - I have no idea on what's reasonable or not. I certainly wouldn't complain lightly. Like Churchman says above, my own primary school experience was very different and much more stable, but if this is the new normal then that's useful to know. Don't blame me for worrying about it though Mr- it's been a tricky time for pupils as well as teachers and it's my job as a parent to take an interest. | |
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| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 12:43 - Oct 11 with 1492 views | BiGDonnie |
Pre covid this would definitely warrant a chat with the School but times have changed massively and a lot of Schools are struggling to recruit. I'd hope it settles soon though and if not I'd definitely speak to the School come Jan if no change. |  |
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| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 12:46 - Oct 11 with 1490 views | hype313 |
What's a shame is that our Son's primary School has a PE Teacher but he works in 3 different schools each week.
We have the government waffling about obesity, yet our Schools are so stretched that they can't afford full time PE Teachers.
I know Bojo is keen on his History, Latin and Classics, but I never imagined him wanting to take us back to Dickensian times like he currently is. |  |
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| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 13:05 - Oct 11 with 1434 views | bluelagos |
So your teachers are in a job share - perfectly normal arrangement in a profession where many are young mothers and part time work fits in with having a young family.
PPA cover (around 1/2 a day a week) will involve another teacher, possibly a rotating one the school has to cover all PPA, or a contracted outside teacher contracted to cover those hours each week.
Then you have illnesses. Whenever a teacher is ill, then the school will likely have an arrangement with an agency to supply a "supply teacher" who will come in at short notice to cover that illness. Unlikely any illnesses will be covered by the same supply teacher so quite possible say 3 illness periods would have 3 different supply teachers.
Throw in Covid, and teachers being expected to stay off with CV symptoms and/or confirmed test, and these periods will be longer and more frequent.
All in - yeah, is not ideal having different faces, especially for kids who don't respond well to constant changes. But only so much a head can do tbh. |  |
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| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 13:07 - Oct 11 with 1424 views | BlueBlueBluex2 |
Very common indeed and in place at most of the schools in East Cambs at all years (but mostly for years R-3. |  | | |
| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 13:17 - Oct 11 with 1407 views | giant_stow |
Thanks all, this is all really handy info, so appreciate it. | |
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| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 18:35 - Oct 11 with 1226 views | factual_blue |
| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 12:46 - Oct 11 by hype313 |
What's a shame is that our Son's primary School has a PE Teacher but he works in 3 different schools each week.
We have the government waffling about obesity, yet our Schools are so stretched that they can't afford full time PE Teachers.
I know Bojo is keen on his History, Latin and Classics, but I never imagined him wanting to take us back to Dickensian times like he currently is. |
Think yourself lucky.
Cardinal mogg would take us back to 1503. |  |
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| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 20:54 - Oct 11 with 1153 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Other reasons for having different teachers that you haven't already mentioned is that some are specialists for art/music/ICT/etc even at primary (depending to a degree on the size of the school).
Whilst there are advantages to a consistent teacher who gets to know the students well, there are also advantages to the variety. It is also quite possible that different teachers are more or less likely to spot bullying etc and that having the variety will make it more likely that they will get spotted by one of them. Some pupils might find it easier to relate to and tell one of the other teachers who they would not otherwise have met.
Additionally, at the moment, as with the high absences among pupils due to Covid, there are high absences among staff and very few available supply teachers meaning whatever staff are in schools and suitably qualified are having to use their non-contact and even PPA time to cover. |  |
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| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 20:59 - Oct 11 with 1143 views | hype313 |
| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 18:35 - Oct 11 by factual_blue |
Think yourself lucky.
Cardinal mogg would take us back to 1503. |
Was it pretty bad back then from memory? | |
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| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 21:06 - Oct 11 with 1112 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 12:46 - Oct 11 by hype313 |
What's a shame is that our Son's primary School has a PE Teacher but he works in 3 different schools each week.
We have the government waffling about obesity, yet our Schools are so stretched that they can't afford full time PE Teachers.
I know Bojo is keen on his History, Latin and Classics, but I never imagined him wanting to take us back to Dickensian times like he currently is. |
That depends on the size of the school. If the school is not large enough to timetable the PE teacher full time to PE and they prefer to and are specialists in teaching PE, your alternative is that they are tied to one school teaching other subjects. Why not allow the specialist to work in multiple schools delivering PE in all of them? The same can be said of music and art and other specialisms that a generalist cannot offer the same quality in. | |
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| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 21:09 - Oct 11 with 1106 views | Swansea_Blue |
Normal here. Our daughter has 3 teachers a week as there’s some specialisation here even at primary school level. Throw in the occasional supply teacher for covid absences and I expect we’re well over 5 or 6 for the term so far. Doesn’t bother me in the slightest. |  |
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| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 00:27 - Oct 12 with 1009 views | factual_blue |
A joke from the late Sean Lock.
"I was waiting for the kids to come out of school the other day. One of the mums said to me 'which one's yours?' I said 'I haven't decided yet'." | |
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| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 05:51 - Oct 12 with 937 views | Chondzoresk |
Presently there are huge amounts of staff absences. Covid is ripping through classes and teachers at most schools, be that primary or high schools. That’s the simple answer. |  | | |
| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 06:54 - Oct 12 with 898 views | Bluefish |
| Seeing as its quiet, a question for any lurking primary school teachers on 05:51 - Oct 12 by Chondzoresk |
Presently there are huge amounts of staff absences. Covid is ripping through classes and teachers at most schools, be that primary or high schools. That’s the simple answer. |
Without an outbreak you don't have to close a classroom but that means sending a teacher in everyday to spend time in a class where you can see covid going round. Sometimes the teacher is part of the spread so you have to ask a different teacher to go and sit with the spread all day.
Incredible that they all still do it. We have lost some brilliant teachers from the profession this year that decided enough is enough | |
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