| Just seen Greta Thunberg on tv. 18:47 - Oct 24 with 7784 views | noggin |
She speaks better English than most English adults. |  |
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| Just seen Greta Thunberg on tv. on 18:10 - Oct 25 with 1003 views | chicoazul |
| Just seen Greta Thunberg on tv. on 18:02 - Oct 25 by Darth_Koont |
I think you’re sticking an ostrich egg in your pudding. China is changing rapidly and arguably is more forward-thinking than us. Certainly at the current rate of change and where we need to be in the next 20 or 30 years.
You’ll have no disagreement from me re: their lack of democracy and human rights abuses. But compared to our rather laissez-faire, individual liberty approach they’re much more ready to adapt to the world’s needs. |
What, in so far as they are a dictatorship that rule their country with an iron fist?
I suppose you are right though. That kind of approach is definitely more suited to whats coming than the tenets of individual freedom that many people cherish in this country. |  |
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| Just seen Greta Thunberg on tv. on 18:11 - Oct 25 with 1003 views | chicoazul |
| Just seen Greta Thunberg on tv. on 18:01 - Oct 25 by Clapham_Junction |
Completely agree they are a deeply sinister regime, but I do think you're wrong about them not caring about environmental stuff.
While there is bad stuff happening, they are also trying to do some positive things. When I was in Beijing last, they had recently started limiting vehicle permits for non-electric cars, were rolling out a massive electric trolleybus network and were continuing to expand other public transport. There were far more electric cars on the road than we have here (virtually every taxi we used was electric).
The one thing the Chinese government is scared of is its own people, and they will do whatever they think is necessary to keep people on side. Environmental disasters like flooding are growing in frequency and people will be expecting action (unlike certain western countries, there is not really any climate change denial/scepticism in China). |
How do they power the electric cars? | |
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| Just seen Greta Thunberg on tv. on 18:27 - Oct 25 with 971 views | noggin |
| Just seen Greta Thunberg on tv. on 18:11 - Oct 25 by chicoazul |
How do they power the electric cars? |
Batteries | |
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| Just seen Greta Thunberg on tv. on 19:29 - Oct 25 with 904 views | solomon |
| Just seen Greta Thunberg on tv. on 07:39 - Oct 25 by blueconscience |
Do you honestly think what we do will make that much difference when the main contributors to the issue don’t give a s**t?
Whilst they don’t take it seriously, there is no point me even worrying about it, as my actions or even the whole country taking action won’t make a noticeable amount of difference.
I will still wish you good luck in your challenge to go “green” |
That’s crazy , but deep down you know that, things are changing very fast in our world, if life teaches us anything it is the need to evolve to survive. Climate change is real and we all have to change to meet that challenge, if you think China won’t change its stance , well with attitudes such as yours it won’t have to as it seems you don’t want change at all. |  | | |
| Just seen Greta Thunberg on tv. on 19:44 - Oct 25 with 880 views | NthQldITFC |
Small sample size I know, but one good thing is that there don't seem to be any actual AGW deniers around these days, which is progress I think. Perhaps they are all too busy denying vaccines etc. |  |
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| Just seen Greta Thunberg on tv. on 20:01 - Oct 25 with 858 views | Darth_Koont |
| Just seen Greta Thunberg on tv. on 18:10 - Oct 25 by chicoazul |
What, in so far as they are a dictatorship that rule their country with an iron fist?
I suppose you are right though. That kind of approach is definitely more suited to whats coming than the tenets of individual freedom that many people cherish in this country. |
Zzzzz.
Rather confirms my opinion that libertarians are the biggest, most irrational loons going. |  |
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| Just seen Greta Thunberg on tv. on 06:47 - Oct 26 with 766 views | dickie |
| Just seen Greta Thunberg on tv. on 13:08 - Oct 25 by NthQldITFC |
There's common ground here. I understand where you're coming from, and it always pisses me off when these discussions descend into angry somewhat personal exchanges. I suppose I would answer your point just by saying that, logically, every little bit helps and can encourage others to take similar steps. Also "assuaging your own conscience" could be positively expressed as "doing what you think is morally right", irrespective of how small the likelihood is of success. |
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| Just seen Greta Thunberg on tv. on 09:05 - Oct 26 with 722 views | WeWereZombies |
| Just seen Greta Thunberg on tv. on 19:44 - Oct 25 by NthQldITFC |
Small sample size I know, but one good thing is that there don't seem to be any actual AGW deniers around these days, which is progress I think. Perhaps they are all too busy denying vaccines etc. |
May I just point out that I think you mean Anthropogenic Global Warming rather than All Going Well when you speak of AGW deniers? |  |
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| Just seen Greta Thunberg on tv. on 09:14 - Oct 26 with 719 views | NthQldITFC |
| Just seen Greta Thunberg on tv. on 09:05 - Oct 26 by WeWereZombies |
May I just point out that I think you mean Anthropogenic Global Warming rather than All Going Well when you speak of AGW deniers? |
I was actually referring to the Aldeburgh Goose Wa*king society, as you very well know.
Fantastic bunch of lads, often seen perambulating with their anseres along the side of the A1094. | |
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| Just seen Greta Thunberg on tv. on 10:22 - Oct 26 with 691 views | chicoazul |
| Just seen Greta Thunberg on tv. on 18:27 - Oct 25 by noggin |
Batteries |
Thanks Confucius | |
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| Just seen Greta Thunberg on tv. on 20:08 - Oct 26 with 615 views | Swansea_Blue |
This is rather marvellous. Pokes fun at some of the main denier arguments showing how stupid they are, but simultaneously it’s depressing by showing how far we’ve got to go in order for people to take this seriously and not be swayed by the considerable resources invested in trying to discredit climate change science and the calls for the need for action.
The inane ‘well China does nothing’ ‘argument’ (seen on here already sadly) is piss taked at 1:05.
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| Just seen Greta Thunberg on tv. on 20:13 - Oct 26 with 603 views | Darth_Koont |
| Just seen Greta Thunberg on tv. on 20:08 - Oct 26 by Swansea_Blue |
This is rather marvellous. Pokes fun at some of the main denier arguments showing how stupid they are, but simultaneously it’s depressing by showing how far we’ve got to go in order for people to take this seriously and not be swayed by the considerable resources invested in trying to discredit climate change science and the calls for the need for action.
The inane ‘well China does nothing’ ‘argument’ (seen on here already sadly) is piss taked at 1:05.
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Haha! Very good. | |
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| Just seen Greta Thunberg on tv. on 21:31 - Oct 26 with 549 views | J2BLUE |
| Just seen Greta Thunberg on tv. on 00:24 - Oct 25 by factual_blue |
More and more people want to regress to a world that many of them never knew, and probably wasn't how they imagine it anyway. They want to get away from a world they find too difficult to understand, a world with complex scientific problems and challenges (Covid, climate change etc). A world that is so scary they make up stuff that they can intellectually cope with, no matter how daft that stuff is. |
Now this guy I would vote for ^
Where do I sign? |  |
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| Just seen Greta Thunberg on tv. on 21:34 - Oct 26 with 537 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Just seen Greta Thunberg on tv. on 06:47 - Oct 26 by dickie |
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Nah, he lost me on the "doing what you think is morally right" bit. That'll never catch on! | |
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| Just seen Greta Thunberg on tv. on 09:28 - Oct 27 with 458 views | chicoazul |
| Just seen Greta Thunberg on tv. on 21:31 - Oct 26 by J2BLUE |
Now this guy I would vote for ^
Where do I sign? |
Don’t vote for the lazy entitled Baby Boomer dream is my advice. That’s part of what got us where we are. | |
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