| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning 11:57 - Oct 26 with 2466 views | GlasgowBlue |
I am far from Bastani & co biggest fan but they are a legitimate news outlet and they don't spout dangerous Covid conspiracies or hate speech.
Very worrying that the likes of YouTube, facebook etc can censor legitimate sources like this. [Post edited 26 Oct 2021 12:07]
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| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 12:05 - Oct 26 with 1674 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Would be interesting to know why YouTube have taken the action and whether what is reported by this group is 100% accurate before judging. |  |
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| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 12:08 - Oct 26 with 1661 views | ZXBlue |
No clue who or what they are.
However, loads of channels have been hit for the flimsiest of algorhythmic reasons and usually get reinstated once humans are on the case. |  | | |
| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 12:09 - Oct 26 with 1658 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 12:05 - Oct 26 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Would be interesting to know why YouTube have taken the action and whether what is reported by this group is 100% accurate before judging. |
Novara has been pretty much the mouthpiece of the Corbyn wing of the Labour party since they started, so very much against my views.
But they are still a legitimate, if very biased source. I haven't seen anything that should result in them being removed. | |
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| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 12:16 - Oct 26 with 1611 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 12:09 - Oct 26 by GlasgowBlue |
Novara has been pretty much the mouthpiece of the Corbyn wing of the Labour party since they started, so very much against my views.
But they are still a legitimate, if very biased source. I haven't seen anything that should result in them being removed. |
Have YouTube said why they have been removed, though? Maybe, as suggested above, it is because of some algorithm that needs checking.
They ought to have had fair warning before being removed but it is a careful balancing act. Clearly Facebook are getting far more grief over who they have not removed than ones they are.
All I found when Googling them was that they used to be the mouthpiece of Corbyn but got taken over by a Tory-supporting lawyer so maybe there has been some misrepresentation going on. They are a group I know nothing of so cannot comment beyond saying that we clearly are missing some information so far. | |
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| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 12:22 - Oct 26 with 1559 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 12:16 - Oct 26 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Have YouTube said why they have been removed, though? Maybe, as suggested above, it is because of some algorithm that needs checking.
They ought to have had fair warning before being removed but it is a careful balancing act. Clearly Facebook are getting far more grief over who they have not removed than ones they are.
All I found when Googling them was that they used to be the mouthpiece of Corbyn but got taken over by a Tory-supporting lawyer so maybe there has been some misrepresentation going on. They are a group I know nothing of so cannot comment beyond saying that we clearly are missing some information so far. |
Are you sure they have been taken over by a Tory-supporting lawyer? I'd not seen that and would be very surprised to see the likes of Ash Sakar and Bastani working for a Tory. | |
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| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 12:22 - Oct 26 with 1555 views | giant_stow |
| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 12:16 - Oct 26 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Have YouTube said why they have been removed, though? Maybe, as suggested above, it is because of some algorithm that needs checking.
They ought to have had fair warning before being removed but it is a careful balancing act. Clearly Facebook are getting far more grief over who they have not removed than ones they are.
All I found when Googling them was that they used to be the mouthpiece of Corbyn but got taken over by a Tory-supporting lawyer so maybe there has been some misrepresentation going on. They are a group I know nothing of so cannot comment beyond saying that we clearly are missing some information so far. |
Tory supporting lawyer? You sure as theres nothing tory about them |  |
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| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 12:27 - Oct 26 with 1525 views | lowhouseblue |
novara media is a dreadful thing, but I can't imagine a case for blocking it. unless it breaks the law let it spout its worst and be seen for what it is. to be honest the nutters who take it seriously will only get their fix somewhere worse. |  |
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| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 12:33 - Oct 26 with 1478 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 12:22 - Oct 26 by GlasgowBlue |
Are you sure they have been taken over by a Tory-supporting lawyer? I'd not seen that and would be very surprised to see the likes of Ash Sakar and Bastani working for a Tory. |
Just a report from Guido so no idea of its reliability. Just saying what appears from a Google search. I know nothing of this Novara either.
https://order-order.com/2018/01/04/novara-media-now-owned-tory-supporting-lawyer | |
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| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 12:38 - Oct 26 with 1444 views | Swansea_Blue |
As a private company I suppose they can do what they want, can't they? You like to think they'd at least give a genuine reason though. |  |
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| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 12:39 - Oct 26 with 1443 views | chicoazul |
If they can censor the actual President of the USA they can do it to anyone. But then he was a baddie wasn’t he. |  |
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| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 12:42 - Oct 26 with 1419 views | lowhouseblue |
| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 12:39 - Oct 26 by chicoazul |
If they can censor the actual President of the USA they can do it to anyone. But then he was a baddie wasn’t he. |
using the platform to try and overthrow a democratic election result seems bad to me. | |
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| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 12:54 - Oct 26 with 1363 views | chicoazul |
| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 12:42 - Oct 26 by lowhouseblue |
using the platform to try and overthrow a democratic election result seems bad to me. |
No doubt. Nonetheless. | |
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| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 12:56 - Oct 26 with 1337 views | giant_stow |
I imagine Owen Jones' twitter is going to be worth tuning in to today, at least. | |
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| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 13:00 - Oct 26 with 1313 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 12:27 - Oct 26 by lowhouseblue |
novara media is a dreadful thing, but I can't imagine a case for blocking it. unless it breaks the law let it spout its worst and be seen for what it is. to be honest the nutters who take it seriously will only get their fix somewhere worse. |
What do you mean, "spout its worst?" and "been seen for what it is"? |  |
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| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 13:00 - Oct 26 with 1319 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 12:56 - Oct 26 by giant_stow |
I imagine Owen Jones' twitter is going to be worth tuning in to today, at least. |
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| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 13:11 - Oct 26 with 1262 views | giant_stow |
| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 13:00 - Oct 26 by GlasgowBlue |
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I can't fault him for that reaction!
Hopefully its just a auto mistake.
Edit: just took a look and this was funny, although a totally different subject
Edit2: sorry, just seen the thread above. [Post edited 26 Oct 2021 13:15]
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| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 13:23 - Oct 26 with 1178 views | Darth_Koont |
Agreed.
They’re also an independent and overall trustworthy media organisation that plays a vital role in filling the sizeable gaps left by the UK corporate media.
I wouldn’t like to hazard a guess at why if it’s algorithmic or, if not, who the YouTube complaint has come from. Providing a genuine left-wing perspective, Novara annoys the right people and there’s looooads of them. |  |
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| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 13:27 - Oct 26 with 1150 views | Darth_Koont |
| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 13:00 - Oct 26 by Ewan_Oozami |
What do you mean, "spout its worst?" and "been seen for what it is"? |
Indeed. Probably their “worst” is calling out people like lowhouse and the void that is the Labour right on a daily basis.
I hope this publicity for Novara really does let people see them for what they are. They’re very good journalists. | |
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| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 13:28 - Oct 26 with 1146 views | BlueBadger |
| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 12:42 - Oct 26 by lowhouseblue |
using the platform to try and overthrow a democratic election result seems bad to me. |
And that's before we get into all the incitement to hatred he was doing for YEARS prior to that. [Post edited 26 Oct 2021 13:39]
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| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 13:32 - Oct 26 with 1116 views | DanTheMan |
This stuff happens all the time with all sorts of Accounts on YouTube. What has usually happened is some dingus has seen something and flagged it incorrectly which immediately blocks the accounts and then it's an absolute pain going through Google's customer support (if you can even call it that) to get the account reinstated.
I'd wait and see what has happened before getting too wound up about it.
However, it is a private company and they do not owe anyone free video hosting (which is ludicrously expensive). [Post edited 26 Oct 2021 13:33]
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| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 13:34 - Oct 26 with 1076 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 13:32 - Oct 26 by DanTheMan |
This stuff happens all the time with all sorts of Accounts on YouTube. What has usually happened is some dingus has seen something and flagged it incorrectly which immediately blocks the accounts and then it's an absolute pain going through Google's customer support (if you can even call it that) to get the account reinstated.
I'd wait and see what has happened before getting too wound up about it.
However, it is a private company and they do not owe anyone free video hosting (which is ludicrously expensive). [Post edited 26 Oct 2021 13:33]
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Although, if that is the case, there should be some protection from it. The size of a channel and its broadcasting levels should be balanced against complaints - a small one maybe should be temporarily blocked for investigation after one complaint, but the bigger the channel, the more complaints should be required for a temporary suspension while investigated. | |
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| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 13:35 - Oct 26 with 1063 views | thebooks |
| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 13:27 - Oct 26 by Darth_Koont |
Indeed. Probably their “worst” is calling out people like lowhouse and the void that is the Labour right on a daily basis.
I hope this publicity for Novara really does let people see them for what they are. They’re very good journalists. |
Hopefully get them some more subs and donations. |  | | |
| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 13:36 - Oct 26 with 1055 views | EastTownBlue |
Their YouTube channel has now returned. | | | |
| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 13:36 - Oct 26 with 1047 views | thebooks |
| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 13:32 - Oct 26 by DanTheMan |
This stuff happens all the time with all sorts of Accounts on YouTube. What has usually happened is some dingus has seen something and flagged it incorrectly which immediately blocks the accounts and then it's an absolute pain going through Google's customer support (if you can even call it that) to get the account reinstated.
I'd wait and see what has happened before getting too wound up about it.
However, it is a private company and they do not owe anyone free video hosting (which is ludicrously expensive). [Post edited 26 Oct 2021 13:33]
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YouTube don’t give “free” video hosting from the kindness of their hearts. | | | |
| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 13:41 - Oct 26 with 1014 views | giant_stow |
| Youtube have closed down Novara Media without warning on 13:36 - Oct 26 by EastTownBlue |
Their YouTube channel has now returned. |
So a cock-up then I spose. | |
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