| Personal plea (COVID) 11:00 - Nov 4 with 8509 views | wkj |
Please give mask wearing (and vaccination) some serious thought over the winter months. I came into contact with it at the end of October and it managed to get me. Although I am fully vaccinated, the mitigated symptoms are the worst I have felt except for having meningitis in my youth.
Mask wearing is a small, yet an irritating, thing to do - but doing it will very likely save someone's life.
As for vaccinations, all I can say is if I feel this bad despite having it then bless those who had to go through it without it.
Perspex shields and masks are only so effective, but it is a significant reduction in risk for our friends and family if we start taking it seriously again for the colder months.
Stay safe, coyb. [Post edited 4 Nov 2021 11:00]
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| Personal plea (COVID) on 15:15 - Nov 4 with 952 views | BlueBlueBluex2 |
| Personal plea (COVID) on 15:05 - Nov 4 by Argyle_blue |
BlueBlueBlue I think you’re being really brave in questioning why you are not wearing a mask and doing that on this forum. It’s more than most non mask wearers would do. Personally I really respect your honesty even if I don’t agree with you. I’m sure you are smart enough to reflect and change in whatever way you think is best. I think we’ve all been conned into thinking covid is behind us and it’s clearly not. |
Well of course I appreciate the support.
At no point have I said "hey everyone, I don't give a sh1t about you or your loved ones, my face gets itchy with a mask so sod it"
I have tried to delve into how my mind and that of those around me works which stops them popping a mask on without a second thought.
However people read what they want and like to have a pop from their sofas about how I am an idiot instead of engaging in meaningful conversation. I should have known better  |  | | |
| Personal plea (COVID) on 15:18 - Nov 4 with 928 views | Oldboy |
| Personal plea (COVID) on 15:15 - Nov 4 by BlueBlueBluex2 |
Well of course I appreciate the support.
At no point have I said "hey everyone, I don't give a sh1t about you or your loved ones, my face gets itchy with a mask so sod it"
I have tried to delve into how my mind and that of those around me works which stops them popping a mask on without a second thought.
However people read what they want and like to have a pop from their sofas about how I am an idiot instead of engaging in meaningful conversation. I should have known better |
I doubt it. |  | | |
| Personal plea (COVID) on 15:21 - Nov 4 with 914 views | StokieBlue |
| Personal plea (COVID) on 15:15 - Nov 4 by BlueBlueBluex2 |
Well of course I appreciate the support.
At no point have I said "hey everyone, I don't give a sh1t about you or your loved ones, my face gets itchy with a mask so sod it"
I have tried to delve into how my mind and that of those around me works which stops them popping a mask on without a second thought.
However people read what they want and like to have a pop from their sofas about how I am an idiot instead of engaging in meaningful conversation. I should have known better |
There isn't really a meaningful conversation to be had here though.
You know what you are doing is a risk to others and you've said you'll only wear a mask if mandated.
The whole position is one of cognitive dissidence and does fit squarely within the accusation that many in this country are simply self-entitled and care little for others.
I'm not sure what ambiguity you are looking to debate?
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| Personal plea (COVID) on 15:24 - Nov 4 with 901 views | footers |
| Personal plea (COVID) on 15:18 - Nov 4 by Oldboy |
I doubt it. |
How's the new Passat handing, old fruit? |  |
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| Personal plea (COVID) on 15:36 - Nov 4 with 864 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| Personal plea (COVID) on 15:15 - Nov 4 by BlueBlueBluex2 |
Well of course I appreciate the support.
At no point have I said "hey everyone, I don't give a sh1t about you or your loved ones, my face gets itchy with a mask so sod it"
I have tried to delve into how my mind and that of those around me works which stops them popping a mask on without a second thought.
However people read what they want and like to have a pop from their sofas about how I am an idiot instead of engaging in meaningful conversation. I should have known better |
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| Personal plea (COVID) on 15:44 - Nov 4 with 841 views | factual_blue |
| Personal plea (COVID) on 11:57 - Nov 4 by BlueBlueBluex2 |
Very easy to get out of mask wearing, that is the problem I am facing.
If I am honest, I don't remember the last time I wore one, I have no idea where they are and in my day to day life, I do not come across many people wearing them.
They need to be made mandatory again and quickly if they are deemed to be required again, until that time, relying on people to do it off their own back is likely to fail and in most cases that's not because they are being obtuse. [Post edited 4 Nov 2021 12:00]
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With all due respect, if you actually consider to wearing a mask to be as important as you say you do, then just wear one. There's no excuse for failing to do so, and showing the personal responsibility you are accusing others of lacking.
Here, for example, is an irresponsible, maskless no-mark sitting next to a ninety-five year-old man, who has done infinitely more good than the maskless no-mark ever will.
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| Personal plea (COVID) on 15:48 - Nov 4 with 825 views | factual_blue |
| Personal plea (COVID) on 13:27 - Nov 4 by BiGDonnie |
I've seen probably over 2000 people today and can count the masks I've seen on one hand. |
To be fair a mask on the hand isn't doing you a lot of good. You'd be better counting the masks on people's faces. | |
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| Personal plea (COVID) on 15:49 - Nov 4 with 823 views | factual_blue |
| Personal plea (COVID) on 12:37 - Nov 4 by giant_stow |
In the midst of the kicking you're getting, I'd just encourage you to do what you clearly know is right and wear a mask when you can. We all make mistakes (i rode a tube for 5 stops the other day before I remembered to put the f'king mask on) but making them doesn't mean we;re committed to repeating those mistakes. |
You should be committed.
The room next to mine is unoccupied. And padded. | |
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| Personal plea (COVID) on 15:52 - Nov 4 with 821 views | factual_blue |
It's also worth remembering that a mask reduces by a significant margin your chance of getting infected, as well as reducing to near zero your chance of infecting others. | |
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| Personal plea (COVID) on 15:57 - Nov 4 with 809 views | wkj |
| Personal plea (COVID) on 15:52 - Nov 4 by factual_blue |
It's also worth remembering that a mask reduces by a significant margin your chance of getting infected, as well as reducing to near zero your chance of infecting others. |
So wearing 2 masks at the same time, with one turned the wrong way around should pretty much be the ultimate protection. | |
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| Personal plea (COVID) on 15:59 - Nov 4 with 802 views | factual_blue |
| Personal plea (COVID) on 15:57 - Nov 4 by wkj |
So wearing 2 masks at the same time, with one turned the wrong way around should pretty much be the ultimate protection. |
You'll also need one of these then
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| Personal plea (COVID) on 16:04 - Nov 4 with 795 views | Argyle_blue |
| Personal plea (COVID) on 15:15 - Nov 4 by BlueBlueBluex2 |
Well of course I appreciate the support.
At no point have I said "hey everyone, I don't give a sh1t about you or your loved ones, my face gets itchy with a mask so sod it"
I have tried to delve into how my mind and that of those around me works which stops them popping a mask on without a second thought.
However people read what they want and like to have a pop from their sofas about how I am an idiot instead of engaging in meaningful conversation. I should have known better |
Sounds like the debate you are really having is with yourself. Only you can sort that out. You don't have to take any notice of anyone on here or at work or on the tube. Just do what you think is best. |  | | |
| Personal plea (COVID) on 16:08 - Nov 4 with 775 views | J2BLUE |
| Personal plea (COVID) on 15:15 - Nov 4 by BlueBlueBluex2 |
Well of course I appreciate the support.
At no point have I said "hey everyone, I don't give a sh1t about you or your loved ones, my face gets itchy with a mask so sod it"
I have tried to delve into how my mind and that of those around me works which stops them popping a mask on without a second thought.
However people read what they want and like to have a pop from their sofas about how I am an idiot instead of engaging in meaningful conversation. I should have known better |
Your position is just too stupid to be shown any respect.
I assume you don't go out in November without some sort of jacket or coat? Get a few masks, stick one in the pocket of each. Stick a note on the side of your front door. This really isn't hard. Your complete unwillingness to put in the slightest effort or be inconvenienced in a really minor way could kill someone. What meaningful conversation is to be had here? |  |
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| Personal plea (COVID) on 16:13 - Nov 4 with 766 views | StokieBlue |
| Personal plea (COVID) on 16:04 - Nov 4 by Argyle_blue |
Sounds like the debate you are really having is with yourself. Only you can sort that out. You don't have to take any notice of anyone on here or at work or on the tube. Just do what you think is best. |
Shouldn't he and everyone else do what the experts think is best?
Going by ones feelings rather than the opinions of people who have the technical knowledge and all the available data would seem like a very bad idea.
It does however seem to be the British way nowadays for a good number of people.
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| Personal plea (COVID) on 16:16 - Nov 4 with 753 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Personal plea (COVID) on 16:13 - Nov 4 by StokieBlue |
Shouldn't he and everyone else do what the experts think is best?
Going by ones feelings rather than the opinions of people who have the technical knowledge and all the available data would seem like a very bad idea.
It does however seem to be the British way nowadays for a good number of people.
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What gets me is if the untrustworthy Boris told him to wear a mask he would. |  |
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| Personal plea (COVID) on 16:33 - Nov 4 with 722 views | BlueBlueBluex2 |
| Personal plea (COVID) on 16:16 - Nov 4 by Pinewoodblue |
What gets me is if the untrustworthy Boris told him to wear a mask he would. |
That needs its own thread | | | |
| Personal plea (COVID) on 16:37 - Nov 4 with 718 views | Argyle_blue |
| Personal plea (COVID) on 16:13 - Nov 4 by StokieBlue |
Shouldn't he and everyone else do what the experts think is best?
Going by ones feelings rather than the opinions of people who have the technical knowledge and all the available data would seem like a very bad idea.
It does however seem to be the British way nowadays for a good number of people.
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Really good point. I agree. The problem is we’ve long ago stopped having policy that was guided by science. In fact the opposite is being modelled by Tory MPs. In that context I suppose you just have to do what you think is right - to act with more common sense than a Tory. Shouldnt be too hard. | | | |
| Personal plea (COVID) on 16:42 - Nov 4 with 700 views | gtsb1966 |
Will there ever be a time when everyone is in agreement that masks are no longer needed considering covid is here to stay? |  | | |
| Personal plea (COVID) on 16:49 - Nov 4 with 684 views | StokieBlue |
| Personal plea (COVID) on 16:42 - Nov 4 by gtsb1966 |
Will there ever be a time when everyone is in agreement that masks are no longer needed considering covid is here to stay? |
You're essentially saying: "why can't we all agree to let more people die because the virus is here to stay and it's too much hassle to wear a mask".
That's not something I'm going to agree with I'm afraid and I would go even further and say that we should wear masks every winter in certain locations to protect people from covid and flu.
Why should people die for other people's convenience?
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| Personal plea (COVID) on 16:53 - Nov 4 with 672 views | J2BLUE |
| Personal plea (COVID) on 16:42 - Nov 4 by gtsb1966 |
Will there ever be a time when everyone is in agreement that masks are no longer needed considering covid is here to stay? |
A third dose of the Pfizer jab is supposed to give 96%+ protect from symptomatic covid. That is insane. With new treatments and more knowledge about the vaccines and their effects there will come a time, probably soon, when we can just go back to normal life completely. We're not quite there yet and we're going into winter. Masks and homeworking have very little impact on most people who are lucky enough to not have any existing conditions and are able to work from home.
We're slightly over 7 weeks out from Christmas. We can act now, lower cases and have a good Christmas or we can refuse to face reality, let things get out of control and face another lockdown over the Christmas period. Then the idiots who refused to wear masks will take to the streets to protest... | |
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| Personal plea (COVID) on 17:05 - Nov 4 with 647 views | gtsb1966 |
| Personal plea (COVID) on 16:49 - Nov 4 by StokieBlue |
You're essentially saying: "why can't we all agree to let more people die because the virus is here to stay and it's too much hassle to wear a mask".
That's not something I'm going to agree with I'm afraid and I would go even further and say that we should wear masks every winter in certain locations to protect people from covid and flu.
Why should people die for other people's convenience?
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Nope...never said that at all . | | | |
| Personal plea (COVID) on 17:08 - Nov 4 with 638 views | wkj |
| Personal plea (COVID) on 16:42 - Nov 4 by gtsb1966 |
Will there ever be a time when everyone is in agreement that masks are no longer needed considering covid is here to stay? |
Im sure there will be, but from personal experience, we're not there yet.
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Also, the longer we go with this spreading amongst a high number of people, and the number is high right now, the more chance we have of seeing a mutation that is resistant to the vaccination and LLOD viral treatments.
Commitment to stifling the spread has a lot more payoffs for the future than hinderances. [Post edited 4 Nov 2021 17:15]
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| Personal plea (COVID) on 17:08 - Nov 4 with 638 views | StokieBlue |
| Personal plea (COVID) on 17:05 - Nov 4 by gtsb1966 |
Nope...never said that at all . |
It's the logical conclusion to the implication of your post and the many other "back to normal" posts you've made.
Feel free to point out what's wrong in my post.
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| Personal plea (COVID) on 17:15 - Nov 4 with 612 views | Digger77 |
| Personal plea (COVID) on 16:37 - Nov 4 by Argyle_blue |
Really good point. I agree. The problem is we’ve long ago stopped having policy that was guided by science. In fact the opposite is being modelled by Tory MPs. In that context I suppose you just have to do what you think is right - to act with more common sense than a Tory. Shouldnt be too hard. |
Spot on. Like jabbing 12-15 year olds. | | | |
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