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Personal plea (COVID) 11:00 - Nov 4 with 8507 viewswkj

Please give mask wearing (and vaccination) some serious thought over the winter months. I came into contact with it at the end of October and it managed to get me. Although I am fully vaccinated, the mitigated symptoms are the worst I have felt except for having meningitis in my youth.

Mask wearing is a small, yet an irritating, thing to do - but doing it will very likely save someone's life.

As for vaccinations, all I can say is if I feel this bad despite having it then bless those who had to go through it without it.

Perspex shields and masks are only so effective, but it is a significant reduction in risk for our friends and family if we start taking it seriously again for the colder months.

Stay safe, coyb.
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Personal plea (COVID) on 12:22 - Nov 4 with 794 viewsfooters

Personal plea (COVID) on 12:20 - Nov 4 by BlueBlueBluex2

Quite possibly true but I look around here now in the office and in the 200 people here, there are none wearing a mask now, or on their journey in, or when they go out to lunch.

This morning I have been to a major retailer to have a meeting - no masks anywhere to be seen.

On my way back to the office I stopped to examine some networking equipment at a large doctors surgery in Cambridge. A few patients with masks, no back office staff wearing them however aside from the receptionists.

Mask wearing should be mandatory. I would embrace that and would welcome something to kick me and others into doing what is right.


Ah, 'no one else is so I won't either'.

Great argument.

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Personal plea (COVID) on 12:22 - Nov 4 with 802 viewsSkip_Intro

I just find the mindset of 'well it's not the law so I'm not gonna do it' or 'he/she/they aren't wearing one so why should I' so tiring and pathetic.
The world would be a much better place if more people showed just a little bit of consideration towards other people and took some responsibility for their own actions, rather than trying to stick two fingers up at 'society' whenever they can like naughty little school children.
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Personal plea (COVID) on 12:23 - Nov 4 with 798 viewsBlueBadger

Personal plea (COVID) on 12:20 - Nov 4 by BlueBlueBluex2

Quite possibly true but I look around here now in the office and in the 200 people here, there are none wearing a mask now, or on their journey in, or when they go out to lunch.

This morning I have been to a major retailer to have a meeting - no masks anywhere to be seen.

On my way back to the office I stopped to examine some networking equipment at a large doctors surgery in Cambridge. A few patients with masks, no back office staff wearing them however aside from the receptionists.

Mask wearing should be mandatory. I would embrace that and would welcome something to kick me and others into doing what is right.


This all sounds rather feeble and hollow if you aren't actually willing to just do it anyway.

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Personal plea (COVID) on 12:24 - Nov 4 with 785 viewsSkip_Intro

Personal plea (COVID) on 12:20 - Nov 4 by BlueBlueBluex2

Quite possibly true but I look around here now in the office and in the 200 people here, there are none wearing a mask now, or on their journey in, or when they go out to lunch.

This morning I have been to a major retailer to have a meeting - no masks anywhere to be seen.

On my way back to the office I stopped to examine some networking equipment at a large doctors surgery in Cambridge. A few patients with masks, no back office staff wearing them however aside from the receptionists.

Mask wearing should be mandatory. I would embrace that and would welcome something to kick me and others into doing what is right.


Why do you need kicking into 'doing what is right'?
Are you unable to make your own decisions or simply unable to do anything for other people unless it's a legal requirement?
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Personal plea (COVID) on 12:25 - Nov 4 with 783 viewsIllinoisblue

Personal plea (COVID) on 11:57 - Nov 4 by BlueBlueBluex2

Very easy to get out of mask wearing, that is the problem I am facing.

If I am honest, I don't remember the last time I wore one, I have no idea where they are and in my day to day life, I do not come across many people wearing them.

They need to be made mandatory again and quickly if they are deemed to be required again, until that time, relying on people to do it off their own back is likely to fail and in most cases that's not because they are being obtuse.
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Take a minute to read again what you wrote and consider how staggeringly reckless it is.

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Personal plea (COVID) on 12:25 - Nov 4 with 782 viewsBlueBlueBluex2

Personal plea (COVID) on 12:20 - Nov 4 by footers

Considering Badger's one of the people who has to work flat out to save people like you who won't take the slightest bit of personal responsibility for your health, I think he's perfectly entitled to that view.

You don't even have a justification for your actions.


Due to the way he delivers his opinion, it means little to me.

I don't have a justification that is true but I have been honest and open about that and have contributed to the thread to provide another viewpoint and my post may alarm or irritate some, that is true.

I am not saying what I do is right, it clearly is not and I am not trying to justify my behaviour but what I am doing is try and understand the thoughts of the wider public as to why mask wearing has fallen off a cliff.
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Personal plea (COVID) on 12:26 - Nov 4 with 767 viewsBlueBadger

Personal plea (COVID) on 12:25 - Nov 4 by Illinoisblue

Take a minute to read again what you wrote and consider how staggeringly reckless it is.


It is very interesting how so many supporters of the 'party of personal responsibility' are utterly unwilling to actually do that.

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Personal plea (COVID) on 12:26 - Nov 4 with 769 viewsStokieBlue

Personal plea (COVID) on 12:20 - Nov 4 by BlueBlueBluex2

Quite possibly true but I look around here now in the office and in the 200 people here, there are none wearing a mask now, or on their journey in, or when they go out to lunch.

This morning I have been to a major retailer to have a meeting - no masks anywhere to be seen.

On my way back to the office I stopped to examine some networking equipment at a large doctors surgery in Cambridge. A few patients with masks, no back office staff wearing them however aside from the receptionists.

Mask wearing should be mandatory. I would embrace that and would welcome something to kick me and others into doing what is right.


This is like when my mum used to say: "if X jumped off the Orwell bridge would you do it as well?"

Citing other people not wearing masks as your reasoning for not wearing one when you must know it makes a difference because you would wear masks if they were mandatory is just massive cognitive dissonance.

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Personal plea (COVID) on 12:27 - Nov 4 with 766 viewsSkip_Intro

Personal plea (COVID) on 12:25 - Nov 4 by BlueBlueBluex2

Due to the way he delivers his opinion, it means little to me.

I don't have a justification that is true but I have been honest and open about that and have contributed to the thread to provide another viewpoint and my post may alarm or irritate some, that is true.

I am not saying what I do is right, it clearly is not and I am not trying to justify my behaviour but what I am doing is try and understand the thoughts of the wider public as to why mask wearing has fallen off a cliff.


Rarely has there been a post so deserving of a 'Do Not Resuscitate' sign...
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Personal plea (COVID) on 12:27 - Nov 4 with 759 viewsBlueBadger

Personal plea (COVID) on 12:25 - Nov 4 by BlueBlueBluex2

Due to the way he delivers his opinion, it means little to me.

I don't have a justification that is true but I have been honest and open about that and have contributed to the thread to provide another viewpoint and my post may alarm or irritate some, that is true.

I am not saying what I do is right, it clearly is not and I am not trying to justify my behaviour but what I am doing is try and understand the thoughts of the wider public as to why mask wearing has fallen off a cliff.


Ah yes, 'people saying howwid things'.

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Personal plea (COVID) on 12:28 - Nov 4 with 760 viewsOldboy

Double jabbed, flu jabbed and have 3rd booster jab next month. Always wear a mask now everywhere. Feel naked without one now. Like you say, this isn't all about us looking after ourselves, but looking out for eachother as well.
Timely reminder. Good stuff.
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Personal plea (COVID) on 12:31 - Nov 4 with 743 viewswkj

Personal plea (COVID) on 12:28 - Nov 4 by Oldboy

Double jabbed, flu jabbed and have 3rd booster jab next month. Always wear a mask now everywhere. Feel naked without one now. Like you say, this isn't all about us looking after ourselves, but looking out for eachother as well.
Timely reminder. Good stuff.


Jolly good sport you are. Did you get the new wheels yet? I didn't end up camping over the summer, though am planning on going on a bit of a heritage site tour during the spring.

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Personal plea (COVID) on 12:34 - Nov 4 with 733 viewsOldboy

Personal plea (COVID) on 11:57 - Nov 4 by BlueBlueBluex2

Very easy to get out of mask wearing, that is the problem I am facing.

If I am honest, I don't remember the last time I wore one, I have no idea where they are and in my day to day life, I do not come across many people wearing them.

They need to be made mandatory again and quickly if they are deemed to be required again, until that time, relying on people to do it off their own back is likely to fail and in most cases that's not because they are being obtuse.
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You shouldn't need a government to tell you. It ain't hard to do.
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Personal plea (COVID) on 12:35 - Nov 4 with 729 viewsOldboy

Personal plea (COVID) on 12:17 - Nov 4 by BlueBlueBluex2

No sure that is really called for, but you have form in that type of response, so it is what is is.


He is right though.
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Personal plea (COVID) on 12:37 - Nov 4 with 727 viewsgiant_stow

Personal plea (COVID) on 11:57 - Nov 4 by BlueBlueBluex2

Very easy to get out of mask wearing, that is the problem I am facing.

If I am honest, I don't remember the last time I wore one, I have no idea where they are and in my day to day life, I do not come across many people wearing them.

They need to be made mandatory again and quickly if they are deemed to be required again, until that time, relying on people to do it off their own back is likely to fail and in most cases that's not because they are being obtuse.
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In the midst of the kicking you're getting, I'd just encourage you to do what you clearly know is right and wear a mask when you can. We all make mistakes (i rode a tube for 5 stops the other day before I remembered to put the f'king mask on) but making them doesn't mean we;re committed to repeating those mistakes.

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Personal plea (COVID) on 12:38 - Nov 4 with 711 viewsElderGrizzly

Personal plea (COVID) on 12:34 - Nov 4 by Oldboy

You shouldn't need a government to tell you. It ain't hard to do.


It's even easier. With this Government, it probably makes sense to do the opposite of what they say
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Personal plea (COVID) on 12:39 - Nov 4 with 712 viewsEireannach_gorm

Personal plea (COVID) on 12:20 - Nov 4 by BlueBlueBluex2

Quite possibly true but I look around here now in the office and in the 200 people here, there are none wearing a mask now, or on their journey in, or when they go out to lunch.

This morning I have been to a major retailer to have a meeting - no masks anywhere to be seen.

On my way back to the office I stopped to examine some networking equipment at a large doctors surgery in Cambridge. A few patients with masks, no back office staff wearing them however aside from the receptionists.

Mask wearing should be mandatory. I would embrace that and would welcome something to kick me and others into doing what is right.


Unfortunately common sense and human decency can't be made mandatory.
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Personal plea (COVID) on 12:40 - Nov 4 with 712 viewsWeWereZombies

Personal plea (COVID) on 12:27 - Nov 4 by BlueBadger

Ah yes, 'people saying howwid things'.


In BlueBlueBluex2's defence I would point out that I spent eight weeks around the start of the year where the type of approach he is suggesting was applied. Enforcing mask wearing at the point of a semi-automatic weapon and frequent road blocks by police can be very effective...
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Personal plea (COVID) on 12:40 - Nov 4 with 706 viewsOldboy

Personal plea (COVID) on 12:20 - Nov 4 by BlueBlueBluex2

Quite possibly true but I look around here now in the office and in the 200 people here, there are none wearing a mask now, or on their journey in, or when they go out to lunch.

This morning I have been to a major retailer to have a meeting - no masks anywhere to be seen.

On my way back to the office I stopped to examine some networking equipment at a large doctors surgery in Cambridge. A few patients with masks, no back office staff wearing them however aside from the receptionists.

Mask wearing should be mandatory. I would embrace that and would welcome something to kick me and others into doing what is right.


Or you could just do it yourself. I am not trying to bully you into wearing one, but you have said that you think we all should be. Perhaps if you wear one in your office, others will feel some kind of responsibility to wear one as well. Adults acting like adults would be a refreshing change.
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Personal plea (COVID) on 12:41 - Nov 4 with 693 viewsJ2BLUE

Personal plea (COVID) on 11:57 - Nov 4 by BlueBlueBluex2

Very easy to get out of mask wearing, that is the problem I am facing.

If I am honest, I don't remember the last time I wore one, I have no idea where they are and in my day to day life, I do not come across many people wearing them.

They need to be made mandatory again and quickly if they are deemed to be required again, until that time, relying on people to do it off their own back is likely to fail and in most cases that's not because they are being obtuse.
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Pathetic. It's even easier to get back into the habit of wearing one.

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Personal plea (COVID) on 12:41 - Nov 4 with 691 viewsElderGrizzly

Personal plea (COVID) on 12:40 - Nov 4 by Oldboy

Or you could just do it yourself. I am not trying to bully you into wearing one, but you have said that you think we all should be. Perhaps if you wear one in your office, others will feel some kind of responsibility to wear one as well. Adults acting like adults would be a refreshing change.


Our Govt department has mask wearing 'suggested' in common areas or when walking around the office, but at desks it is not required.

It's a good job it isn't an airborne virus or anything...

I still wear my mask when i've been in, but was definitely the minority.
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Personal plea (COVID) on 12:42 - Nov 4 with 681 viewsSarge

Personal plea (COVID) on 12:11 - Nov 4 by StokieBlue

It's worth bearing in mind that wearing a mask will help prevent the spread of other respiratory viruses which aren't covid.

Why not try and prevent flu deaths this winter as well as covid deaths by wearing a mask.

SB


Indeed hence I wore it even with a fairly minor cold.

I suppose my other point was that I’d feel a whole lot more comfortable standing next to someone with no mask who’s just tested negative than someone who may or may not be carrying covid and has a mask that is possibly covering their nose and mouth. The tube was horrendous, it’s mandatory there and I’d say it was 30% of people wearing them even in rush hour whereas it’s optional in supermarkets and for me it’s usually 80-90%..

Appreciate that’s probably not replicated up and down the country and maybe reflects the demographic rather than the mandate.
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Personal plea (COVID) on 12:46 - Nov 4 with 662 viewsElderGrizzly

Personal plea (COVID) on 12:41 - Nov 4 by J2BLUE

Pathetic. It's even easier to get back into the habit of wearing one.


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Personal plea (COVID) on 12:53 - Nov 4 with 610 viewsSwansea_Blue

Personal plea (COVID) on 12:41 - Nov 4 by J2BLUE

Pathetic. It's even easier to get back into the habit of wearing one.


The act itself isn't even remotely difficult is it. Although we need to recognise that we're herd animals and like to follow the crowd. It's surprising how odd it feels to wear a mask when nobody around you is. That's also a cultural thing too that we need to overcome.

I think that's why it was important that our governments got the messaging right around mask wearing, yet I don't think any of them did. We can't expect companies to affect behaviour change (imagine the concourse staff trying to get people to wear masks at FPR!). It needs clear legislation.

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Personal plea (COVID) on 12:53 - Nov 4 with 605 viewsfooters

Personal plea (COVID) on 12:46 - Nov 4 by ElderGrizzly

Whoopi agrees



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