| Removed thread 15:06 - Nov 25 with 8213 views | PhilTWTD |
I've removed that thread as the links in the original post were promoting inaccurate speculation regarding the pandemic. Am torn between leaving things like that up for them to be dissected and pulled apart - I think there's something to be said for that as the same misprepresentations will inevitably appear on wider social media - or removing them as soon as their lack of veracity is pointed out. |  | | |  |
| Removed thread on 16:05 - Nov 25 with 1299 views | The_Major |
| Removed thread on 16:01 - Nov 25 by BlueBadger |
So, we're cool with say, someone coming on here posting Islamic State or neo-nazi propaganda because 'people should make their own minds up'? |
Besides which, Phil is in charge. He's the one that pays the bills, he's the one who sets the rules. If people don't like it, well... |  | | |
| Removed thread on 16:05 - Nov 25 with 1300 views | PhilTWTD |
| Removed thread on 15:30 - Nov 25 by Lightworker |
There was nothing in the original post that can be proven to be inaccurate because the reasons for the drop in cases in Japan have not been firmly established so by default are speculation at this stage.
If somebody had posted it was entirely down the vaccine programme ( without any evidence of that being the case ) I'm guessing that would have been absolutely fine?
If we are not allowed to post mainstream analysis and the considered views of a medical Doctor looking at the possible reasons then i'm not sure what we can post anymore. Perhaps you should ban all Covid related posts unless the BBC confirms it to be true. |
As per BlueBadger's post, there was a lot in that post which was fairly swiftly debunked. | | | |
| Removed thread on 16:07 - Nov 25 with 1284 views | The_Major |
| Removed thread on 15:59 - Nov 25 by BlueBadger |
It was me that reported the thread.
After two years on the front line, I have zero tolerance for these dangerously stupid thickos spreading misinformation than can and does cost lives. [Post edited 25 Nov 2021 16:02]
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Well said, dear fellow. | | | |
| Removed thread on 16:10 - Nov 25 with 1279 views | Lightworker |
| Removed thread on 15:46 - Nov 25 by BlueBadger |
Apart from the initial claim, the wholly misleading 'this is how viruses mutate' stuff and the laughableivermectin video.
And the bit where you 'forgot' the most important part, which is that Japan is widely vaccinated and masking/distancing compliant. [Post edited 25 Nov 2021 15:50]
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Did you actually read the post or just see what you wanted to see?
There was no initial claim at all, there was a question which was a perfectly valid one seeing as Japan has seen a sudden and dramatic reduction in both cases and deaths.
The virus mutation quote was from a University professor in Japan and was one possible explanation. The video was a reputable UK medical Doctor looking at the possible reasons, no claims were made about Ivermectin, just the observation of a correlation.
I don't know if you know how science works but usually a correlation is observed and then further research is carried out to see whether correlation equals causation. It is not a crime to speak of the observation of the initial correlation.
Speaking of correlation not equalling causation.....
The vaccine and mask compliance was discussed in the video and discounted because neighbouring South Korea has seen the complete opposite ( ie. a massive rise in cases ), despite a similar level of vaccine uptake and similar habits around masking etc. It is completely unscientific to just say 'ah that'll be the vaccine then' without actually having any evidence to support that position.
But hey don't let the truth get in the way of a good old emotional rant against a ( fully vaccinated ) anti-vaxxer. |  | | |
| Removed thread on 16:10 - Nov 25 with 1275 views | jeera |
| Removed thread on 15:57 - Nov 25 by gtsb1966 |
Why don't you just let people make their own minds up rather than banning people. It's a discussion board after all. |
If only one person believes false information it could be potentially damaging to someone else?
As a parent/grandparent that would be the last thing you would want yourself, the same as other normal considerate people.
Some people thrive off spreading disinformation and the attention it brings. |  |
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| Removed thread on 16:12 - Nov 25 with 1253 views | footers |
| Removed thread on 16:10 - Nov 25 by Lightworker |
Did you actually read the post or just see what you wanted to see?
There was no initial claim at all, there was a question which was a perfectly valid one seeing as Japan has seen a sudden and dramatic reduction in both cases and deaths.
The virus mutation quote was from a University professor in Japan and was one possible explanation. The video was a reputable UK medical Doctor looking at the possible reasons, no claims were made about Ivermectin, just the observation of a correlation.
I don't know if you know how science works but usually a correlation is observed and then further research is carried out to see whether correlation equals causation. It is not a crime to speak of the observation of the initial correlation.
Speaking of correlation not equalling causation.....
The vaccine and mask compliance was discussed in the video and discounted because neighbouring South Korea has seen the complete opposite ( ie. a massive rise in cases ), despite a similar level of vaccine uptake and similar habits around masking etc. It is completely unscientific to just say 'ah that'll be the vaccine then' without actually having any evidence to support that position.
But hey don't let the truth get in the way of a good old emotional rant against a ( fully vaccinated ) anti-vaxxer. |
Another 'I wasn't making a claim, just asking questions - honest' type of disingenuous poster.
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| Removed thread on 16:13 - Nov 25 with 1264 views | PhilTWTD |
| Removed thread on 15:56 - Nov 25 by Parky |
StokieBlueTWTD strikes again. |
Not sure there's any need for pointing fingers and I think Stokie's input on the pandemic on here has been very interesting and informative, particularly so given the amount of false information out there. | | | |
| Removed thread on 16:16 - Nov 25 with 1218 views | Keno |
| Removed thread on 15:56 - Nov 25 by eireblue |
Disappointed.
If you had gone with “Another Thread Removed” that would have lined up nicely with a couple of other topics on the board, Keno and Hoppy could have carried on the trend, and hilarity restored to the board.
Missed opportunity, again. |
How dare you accuse me and hoppy of restoring hilarity!! |  |
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| Removed thread on 16:18 - Nov 25 with 1195 views | hoppy |
| Removed thread on 16:16 - Nov 25 by Keno |
How dare you accuse me and hoppy of restoring hilarity!! |
I know, it's rather disingenuous isn't it? - to me, to you... |  |
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| Removed thread on 16:19 - Nov 25 with 1192 views | Keno |
| Removed thread on 15:59 - Nov 25 by BlueBadger |
It was me that reported the thread.
After two years on the front line, I have zero tolerance for these dangerously stupid thickos spreading misinformation than can and does cost lives. [Post edited 25 Nov 2021 16:02]
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Not sure why anyone would downvote the opinion of someone who has spent the past 18 months on the front line risking his own health saving people with Covid
Whatever the wrongs of what has been being posted I'm sorry but that just out of order.
Badgie, thank you for all you do and all you have taught us over the months. Perhaps some people need to read your diary threads last year | |
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| Removed thread on 16:20 - Nov 25 with 1196 views | BlueBadger |
| Removed thread on 16:10 - Nov 25 by Lightworker |
Did you actually read the post or just see what you wanted to see?
There was no initial claim at all, there was a question which was a perfectly valid one seeing as Japan has seen a sudden and dramatic reduction in both cases and deaths.
The virus mutation quote was from a University professor in Japan and was one possible explanation. The video was a reputable UK medical Doctor looking at the possible reasons, no claims were made about Ivermectin, just the observation of a correlation.
I don't know if you know how science works but usually a correlation is observed and then further research is carried out to see whether correlation equals causation. It is not a crime to speak of the observation of the initial correlation.
Speaking of correlation not equalling causation.....
The vaccine and mask compliance was discussed in the video and discounted because neighbouring South Korea has seen the complete opposite ( ie. a massive rise in cases ), despite a similar level of vaccine uptake and similar habits around masking etc. It is completely unscientific to just say 'ah that'll be the vaccine then' without actually having any evidence to support that position.
But hey don't let the truth get in the way of a good old emotional rant against a ( fully vaccinated ) anti-vaxxer. |
I read the whole article.
It was mostly speculation and theory with the key fact that Japan is widely vaccinated and still adheres to distancing omitted from your desire to spout pro-disease horsesh1t.
From personal experience, I've witnessed first hand the drop-off in cases, admissions and deaths when the vaccination programme really kicked into gear over here so the speculation is just that.
Worth also nothing that South Korea are steeping up their programme of boosters as, as is happening here, I suspect that antibody counts from the first wave of have been running down so breakthrough infections are occurring.
Remind us again how you recovered from polio? [Post edited 25 Nov 2021 16:22]
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| Removed thread on 16:21 - Nov 25 with 1175 views | BlueBadger |
| Removed thread on 16:19 - Nov 25 by Keno |
Not sure why anyone would downvote the opinion of someone who has spent the past 18 months on the front line risking his own health saving people with Covid
Whatever the wrongs of what has been being posted I'm sorry but that just out of order.
Badgie, thank you for all you do and all you have taught us over the months. Perhaps some people need to read your diary threads last year |
Hey, its not my fault that these knockabout non-PC-I-Just-tell-it-like-it-is types can't handle it when they get Told It Like It Is. | |
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| Removed thread on 16:22 - Nov 25 with 1174 views | Lightworker |
| Removed thread on 16:05 - Nov 25 by PhilTWTD |
As per BlueBadger's post, there was a lot in that post which was fairly swiftly debunked. |
And see my reply to him as to why that was not the case. You are displaying a huge amount of bias towards certain posters here. Just because a certain poster replies with a twitter thread saying something has been debunked, does not necessesarily mean that is the case.
There were no outlandish claims in my post, no conspiracy theories and there was no anti-vax content. Dr John Campbell is a reputable MD with over a million followers, he is staunchly pro-vax and has posted respected analysis videos throughout the pandemic.
Some posters on this board seem obsessed with jumping on anything and everything that doesn't fit their exact view and branding it as 'dangerous' or misinformation.
You are the boss and ultimately you can decide what stays and what goes but I think it is a real shame that we can't have a civil scientific debate without hysterical aggressive reactions followed by censorship.
I'll leave it there. | | | |
| Removed thread on 16:29 - Nov 25 with 1129 views | BlueBadger |
| Removed thread on 16:22 - Nov 25 by Lightworker |
And see my reply to him as to why that was not the case. You are displaying a huge amount of bias towards certain posters here. Just because a certain poster replies with a twitter thread saying something has been debunked, does not necessesarily mean that is the case.
There were no outlandish claims in my post, no conspiracy theories and there was no anti-vax content. Dr John Campbell is a reputable MD with over a million followers, he is staunchly pro-vax and has posted respected analysis videos throughout the pandemic.
Some posters on this board seem obsessed with jumping on anything and everything that doesn't fit their exact view and branding it as 'dangerous' or misinformation.
You are the boss and ultimately you can decide what stays and what goes but I think it is a real shame that we can't have a civil scientific debate without hysterical aggressive reactions followed by censorship.
I'll leave it there. |
Then I suspect the vigorously pro-vaccination MD would be appalled to see thickos like you using his work to wilfully spread disinformation.
Don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out.
And take SPTA with you as well.
But before you go, how DID you recover from polio, anyway? [Post edited 25 Nov 2021 16:30]
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| Removed thread on 16:29 - Nov 25 with 1121 views | Lightworker |
| Removed thread on 16:19 - Nov 25 by Keno |
Not sure why anyone would downvote the opinion of someone who has spent the past 18 months on the front line risking his own health saving people with Covid
Whatever the wrongs of what has been being posted I'm sorry but that just out of order.
Badgie, thank you for all you do and all you have taught us over the months. Perhaps some people need to read your diary threads last year |
Sorry I forgot, BB works for the NHS so he has free reign to call people he doesn't agree with 'dangerously stupid thicko's'.
I'll remember the rules for next time. | | | |
| Removed thread on 16:30 - Nov 25 with 1104 views | footers |
| Removed thread on 16:29 - Nov 25 by BlueBadger |
Then I suspect the vigorously pro-vaccination MD would be appalled to see thickos like you using his work to wilfully spread disinformation.
Don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out.
And take SPTA with you as well.
But before you go, how DID you recover from polio, anyway? [Post edited 25 Nov 2021 16:30]
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It'll be about the tenth time he's 'left it there' in a couple of days.
Promises much but doesn't deliver. | |
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| Removed thread on 16:31 - Nov 25 with 1105 views | BlueBadger |
| Removed thread on 16:29 - Nov 25 by Lightworker |
Sorry I forgot, BB works for the NHS so he has free reign to call people he doesn't agree with 'dangerously stupid thicko's'.
I'll remember the rules for next time. |
Dry your eyes, snowflake, I calls it how I sees it. I thought you non-PC types liked it when people Tell It How It Is.
And tell us how you recovered from polio when you've done. [Post edited 25 Nov 2021 16:32]
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| Removed thread on 16:31 - Nov 25 with 1102 views | Mullet |
| Removed thread on 16:22 - Nov 25 by Lightworker |
And see my reply to him as to why that was not the case. You are displaying a huge amount of bias towards certain posters here. Just because a certain poster replies with a twitter thread saying something has been debunked, does not necessesarily mean that is the case.
There were no outlandish claims in my post, no conspiracy theories and there was no anti-vax content. Dr John Campbell is a reputable MD with over a million followers, he is staunchly pro-vax and has posted respected analysis videos throughout the pandemic.
Some posters on this board seem obsessed with jumping on anything and everything that doesn't fit their exact view and branding it as 'dangerous' or misinformation.
You are the boss and ultimately you can decide what stays and what goes but I think it is a real shame that we can't have a civil scientific debate without hysterical aggressive reactions followed by censorship.
I'll leave it there. |
Isn’t that exactly what you e done here? Especially your assumption that Badger didn’t even read what was posted?
Interesting eh? |  |
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| Removed thread on 16:36 - Nov 25 with 1081 views | Keno |
| Removed thread on 16:29 - Nov 25 by Lightworker |
Sorry I forgot, BB works for the NHS so he has free reign to call people he doesn't agree with 'dangerously stupid thicko's'.
I'll remember the rules for next time. |
perhaps he knows more about Covid than any of us and to him many of probably are 'dangerously stupid thicko's', myself included | |
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| Removed thread on 16:38 - Nov 25 with 1062 views | factual_blue |
| Removed thread on 16:10 - Nov 25 by jeera |
If only one person believes false information it could be potentially damaging to someone else?
As a parent/grandparent that would be the last thing you would want yourself, the same as other normal considerate people.
Some people thrive off spreading disinformation and the attention it brings. |
Indeed. Look at the way some spread the bizarre notions that b*****berg is a good thing, or that morrissey has talent. |  |
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| Removed thread on 16:39 - Nov 25 with 1058 views | eireblue |
| Removed thread on 16:30 - Nov 25 by footers |
It'll be about the tenth time he's 'left it there' in a couple of days.
Promises much but doesn't deliver. |
Post continued once more. |  | | |
| Removed thread on 16:39 - Nov 25 with 1054 views | Oldboy |
| Removed thread on 15:42 - Nov 25 by chicoazul |
What are your top 5 cheeses? |
Now that is a great question.
1. Cheddar (bit obvious, but the king of cheeses)
2. Red Leicester (lovely in a sandwich)
3. Double Gloucester (no reason, just a lovely cheese)
4. Philadelphia (not technically a cheese, but lovely)
5 Wensleydale (good enough for Wallace, good enough for me) |  | | |
| Removed thread on 16:40 - Nov 25 with 1033 views | eireblue |
| Removed thread on 16:22 - Nov 25 by Lightworker |
And see my reply to him as to why that was not the case. You are displaying a huge amount of bias towards certain posters here. Just because a certain poster replies with a twitter thread saying something has been debunked, does not necessesarily mean that is the case.
There were no outlandish claims in my post, no conspiracy theories and there was no anti-vax content. Dr John Campbell is a reputable MD with over a million followers, he is staunchly pro-vax and has posted respected analysis videos throughout the pandemic.
Some posters on this board seem obsessed with jumping on anything and everything that doesn't fit their exact view and branding it as 'dangerous' or misinformation.
You are the boss and ultimately you can decide what stays and what goes but I think it is a real shame that we can't have a civil scientific debate without hysterical aggressive reactions followed by censorship.
I'll leave it there. |
It was quite a funny post in some respects.
You started with something like “…experts unclear ”
Followed by one doctor “believes”,
And then you compared two countries that weren’t compared in the two articles.
A repeated unclear intent? | | | |
| Removed thread on 16:42 - Nov 25 with 1024 views | factual_blue |
| Removed thread on 16:16 - Nov 25 by Keno |
How dare you accuse me and hoppy of restoring hilarity!! |
Indeed. That's patent nonsense. You can't restore what wasn't there in the first place. | |
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| Removed thread on 16:42 - Nov 25 with 1017 views | footers |
| Removed thread on 16:38 - Nov 25 by factual_blue |
Indeed. Look at the way some spread the bizarre notions that b*****berg is a good thing, or that morrissey has talent. |
You don't like him but you love him;
Either way you're wrong.
You're gonna miss him when he's gone,
You're gonna miss him when he's gone. | |
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