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i'm fed up with being miserable and down about this club, KMc will leave no stone unturned in his preparation in each game, and the players have games coming thick and fast and a run of wins will have them buzzing.
It's possible but I'd say it's very unlikely. Some of the comparisons on this thread are taking things a bit far, what we need to do to make the play offs is a big ask but it's not unprecedented and on paper at least we have sufficient quality in the squad to go on the kind of run that would be needed to have a chance of squeezing into the play offs. On balance I think we have too much to do but getting there would be an excellent rather than miraculous achievement.
Do you believe we can actually make the play offs this season still? on 07:58 - Dec 31 by Herbivore
It's possible but I'd say it's very unlikely. Some of the comparisons on this thread are taking things a bit far, what we need to do to make the play offs is a big ask but it's not unprecedented and on paper at least we have sufficient quality in the squad to go on the kind of run that would be needed to have a chance of squeezing into the play offs. On balance I think we have too much to do but getting there would be an excellent rather than miraculous achievement.
a new manager bounce, a proper one, like 4/5 wins on the trot.... that puts us in a great position to crack on
Do you believe we can actually make the play offs this season still? on 08:09 - Dec 31 by textbackup
a new manager bounce, a proper one, like 4/5 wins on the trot.... that puts us in a great position to crack on
I'm with you on this.
If, as town fans, we can't be overly optimistic after we've just appointed a new manager and still have half a season to go, then I don't know when we can be!
Would I put money on it? Probably not (though I don't gamble so it is a moot point!), but I definitely think we can do it. Just look at Blackburn in the Championship as an example of what can happen when a team strings a run of wins together. It's an uncomfortable truth for some, but Cook made an absolute pigs ear of this season so far, so lets see if another manager can get a tune out of an obviously talented group of players.
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Do you believe we can actually make the play offs this season still? on 08:09 - Dec 31 by textbackup
a new manager bounce, a proper one, like 4/5 wins on the trot.... that puts us in a great position to crack on
If we won our next 4 or 5 on the bounce and the sides above us carried on picking up points at a similar rate and played their games in hand we'd be 5 or 6 points off the top 6 still. It'd be closer but there'd still be a lot to do to overhaul those sides.
That's a measure of how badly Cook fooked up the first half of the season, he's left us with such a gap to 6th that even a run of 5 or 6 wins (including the Wycombe game) would still leave us with a decent gap to make up. Certainly not impossible but it's going to need a combination of us sustaining top 2 form for the second half of the season and a couple of sides tailing off.
Do you believe we can actually make the play offs this season still? on 08:16 - Dec 31 by Dubtractor
I'm with you on this.
If, as town fans, we can't be overly optimistic after we've just appointed a new manager and still have half a season to go, then I don't know when we can be!
Would I put money on it? Probably not (though I don't gamble so it is a moot point!), but I definitely think we can do it. Just look at Blackburn in the Championship as an example of what can happen when a team strings a run of wins together. It's an uncomfortable truth for some, but Cook made an absolute pigs ear of this season so far, so lets see if another manager can get a tune out of an obviously talented group of players.
yeah i'm not sure my yearly betting budget of £1 is even worth the hassle of putting my money where mouth is lol...
i've just got this vision of KMc and his team sat down saying "right this is a mess, lets try to repair it with 4/5/6 quick wins, get us looking more healthy in the league table, then the real work begins"
i mean trying to get us to beat gillingham is a bit easier than getting manUtd to beat liverpool, isnt it?!
Do you believe we can actually make the play offs this season still? on 08:19 - Dec 31 by Herbivore
If we won our next 4 or 5 on the bounce and the sides above us carried on picking up points at a similar rate and played their games in hand we'd be 5 or 6 points off the top 6 still. It'd be closer but there'd still be a lot to do to overhaul those sides.
That's a measure of how badly Cook fooked up the first half of the season, he's left us with such a gap to 6th that even a run of 5 or 6 wins (including the Wycombe game) would still leave us with a decent gap to make up. Certainly not impossible but it's going to need a combination of us sustaining top 2 form for the second half of the season and a couple of sides tailing off.
id take being 5 points off 5th 6th with 10/12 games to play.
i'm trying no to get bogged down with how badly PC done, because the more i think about it the more i want to pick holes in it, and its pointless as its been and gone. however, he was pretty dogsht wasnt he
Do you believe we can actually make the play offs this season still? on 07:58 - Dec 31 by Herbivore
It's possible but I'd say it's very unlikely. Some of the comparisons on this thread are taking things a bit far, what we need to do to make the play offs is a big ask but it's not unprecedented and on paper at least we have sufficient quality in the squad to go on the kind of run that would be needed to have a chance of squeezing into the play offs. On balance I think we have too much to do but getting there would be an excellent rather than miraculous achievement.
P22 W12 D6 L4 over the remainder of the season would put us on 74 points and at least in contention for 6th place. Not unrealistic when you consider we only have 4 games left against the current top six and 7 remaining against the current bottom six.
Do you believe we can actually make the play offs this season still? on 08:48 - Dec 31 by Guthrum
P22 W12 D6 L4 over the remainder of the season would put us on 74 points and at least in contention for 6th place. Not unrealistic when you consider we only have 4 games left against the current top six and 7 remaining against the current bottom six.
As a fanbase, we seem to have a generally pessimistic outlook, which is totally understandable after the last 15 years, but virtually ALL of the links to that dark, dark period have been severed now, and with what we have in place there's absolutely no reason not to become an optimistic club again. If we want to.
It's a longish shot, but very possible (not probable, but possible!) and it's time to stop looking back and wallowing in negativity and start to believe in Ipswich Town Football Club again. If we want to look back, let's look back twenty years, instead of five or ten, and starting bouncing around with excitement and hope on the knees we had twenty years ago!
Do you believe we can actually make the play offs this season still? on 08:48 - Dec 31 by Guthrum
P22 W12 D6 L4 over the remainder of the season would put us on 74 points and at least in contention for 6th place. Not unrealistic when you consider we only have 4 games left against the current top six and 7 remaining against the current bottom six.
Although for 74 points to be enough will require some of the sides above us to go into a slide. Plymouth are currently 6th on PPG and they'd need to only manage 1.4 PPG over the rest of the season to end up with 74 points. Not impossible but it'd also rely on a few of the sides immediately below them also dropping off in form over the second half of the season too for us to be the side that overtakes them. I think it could take 78 points this year, a bit like it did the last time we finished top 6.
Do you believe we can actually make the play offs this season still? on 22:28 - Dec 30 by Guthrum
Strictly speaking, we can make the playoffs, with half a season remaining. It is one heck of an ask and requires a lot of things to go our way. But it is possible.
So I have to post yes.
Do I think it likely? Not very. But with a bright young manager, a talented squad and a renewed feeling of energy about the club, who knows ...
Seeing Sunderland are now top of the table , anything is possible
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Do you believe we can actually make the play offs this season still? on 10:11 - Dec 31 with 878 views
Do you believe we can actually make the play offs this season still? on 10:02 - Dec 31 by Herbivore
Although for 74 points to be enough will require some of the sides above us to go into a slide. Plymouth are currently 6th on PPG and they'd need to only manage 1.4 PPG over the rest of the season to end up with 74 points. Not impossible but it'd also rely on a few of the sides immediately below them also dropping off in form over the second half of the season too for us to be the side that overtakes them. I think it could take 78 points this year, a bit like it did the last time we finished top 6.
Ipswich have already taken three times as many points from top six teams this season as Plymouth have. They've lost 4 out of 5. Potential for overhauling them there.
Do you believe we can actually make the play offs this season still? on 10:32 - Dec 31 by Guthrum
Ipswich have already taken three times as many points from top six teams this season as Plymouth have. They've lost 4 out of 5. Potential for overhauling them there.
Potential, yes, but there's another 6 or 7 sides between us and them that we also need to overhaul. I'd be surprised if 74 points ends up being enough for 6th this season but for now we just need to focus on ourselves and picking up as many points as we can.
Do you believe we can actually make the play offs this season still? on 10:32 - Dec 31 by Guthrum
Ipswich have already taken three times as many points from top six teams this season as Plymouth have. They've lost 4 out of 5. Potential for overhauling them there.
10 points from eight games for Plymouth since they beat us, 12 from nine for us. So we need to step it up but you are right and I think they are capable of tailing off further — Camara, arguably their best player, is off to AFCON so let's hope Guinea-Bissau have a good tournament.
Do you believe we can actually make the play offs this season still? on 19:53 - Dec 30 by Nthsuffolkblue
Before kick-off yesterday we were 11th, 10 points off 6th place who had a game in hand on us.
After winning yesterday, we are 11th, 10 points off 6th who have a game in hand on us.
We are going to need a phenomenal run over the second half of this season to make the play-offs. It would be an achievement on the same scale as Mick keeping us up when he came in.
The problem is, it is not about gaining 10 points, it is about doing 10 points better than teams who have already shown they can perform better than we have been over the course of 22 matches. It is not unreasonable to say we need 44 points from those 22 matches. That is immediately switching from mid-table form to automatic promotion form and sustaining it.
You have to remember that Cook was grossly underperforming with the resources at his disposal. Where he left us was seriously below par for the squad we've got. 2 points per game is certainly not easy but that's the sort of level I expected us to maintain before the season started.
Personally, I think we will end up somewhere 74-78 points. If we do, McKenna has performed well and done his job regardless of if that ends up being enough or not.
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Do you believe we can actually make the play offs this season still? on 11:45 - Dec 31 with 798 views
Do you believe we can actually make the play offs this season still? on 20:18 - Dec 30 by Illinoisblue
That is exactly the problem. We need to win at least 75% of our remaining games and hope many other teams stumble. It’s not impossible but I would be willing to risk precisely zero dollars on it.
I don’t think it’s at all likely that we will make the playoffs.
But neither do I think we need to win 75% of our games to do so.
Form about as good as Rotherham’s first half of the season would be enough. That’s about 60% wins. Extremely hard to see it happening but not impossible with a new manager and a transfer window.
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Do you believe we can actually make the play offs this season still? on 12:20 - Dec 31 with 751 views
Do you believe we can actually make the play offs this season still? on 11:17 - Dec 31 by SomethingBlue
10 points from eight games for Plymouth since they beat us, 12 from nine for us. So we need to step it up but you are right and I think they are capable of tailing off further — Camara, arguably their best player, is off to AFCON so let's hope Guinea-Bissau have a good tournament.
Also, we've already had the equivalent of about 3 bad runs for this season! and since all clubs usually have one or more of these (you'll know better than me which in L1 still have 1 or more of them to go), us keeping going with performances like Wednesday might well mean overhauling enough to claim 6th place? 🤔
Do you believe we can actually make the play offs this season still? on 12:20 - Dec 31 by Ryorry
Also, we've already had the equivalent of about 3 bad runs for this season! and since all clubs usually have one or more of these (you'll know better than me which in L1 still have 1 or more of them to go), us keeping going with performances like Wednesday might well mean overhauling enough to claim 6th place? 🤔
Or maybe this is just NYE optimism!
Town have effectively been for a dump before midnight tonight, so not to carry last years sht into 2022 with them.
Do you believe we can actually make the play offs this season still? on 11:23 - Dec 31 by tractorboy1978
You have to remember that Cook was grossly underperforming with the resources at his disposal. Where he left us was seriously below par for the squad we've got. 2 points per game is certainly not easy but that's the sort of level I expected us to maintain before the season started.
Personally, I think we will end up somewhere 74-78 points. If we do, McKenna has performed well and done his job regardless of if that ends up being enough or not.
Sadly cook damaged us, the start of the season and this gel rubbish best squad probably good players yes, I voted we wouldn't in the poll, Our biggest problem between now and the end of the season will be killing teams off with a second goal like wednesday, wycombe do what wycombe do and bombarded us we stood firm, I'm a 3 at the back guy, that's our way forward,If we keep Walton and the 3 at the back, we will have far to much going forward for all but say 3-4 of our games left, doable il say 76 points bursting in with a lot of form,
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Do you believe we can actually make the play offs this season still? on 14:15 - Dec 31 with 694 views
Do you believe we can actually make the play offs this season still? on 21:40 - Dec 30 by Nthsuffolkblue
It is unbelievable how many people still think it is possible.
No wonder there were so many still thinking we should not have sacked Cook. They are not based in reality at all.
You'd usually expect 6th place to accumulate about 1.6 points per game, which means a 5-game winning streak basically puts us right back in the pack, 3-4 points off 6th. It's still very much possible.
Do you believe we can actually make the play offs this season still? on 11:23 - Dec 31 by tractorboy1978
You have to remember that Cook was grossly underperforming with the resources at his disposal. Where he left us was seriously below par for the squad we've got. 2 points per game is certainly not easy but that's the sort of level I expected us to maintain before the season started.
Personally, I think we will end up somewhere 74-78 points. If we do, McKenna has performed well and done his job regardless of if that ends up being enough or not.
That is a very fair assessment. Worry about ourselves. If we can get that return (and as you say, it is what we expected of Cook with this squad) we should be there or thereabouts.
The question is whether it is reasonable to expect McKenna to turn a team performing at 1.3 ppg into one getting 2 ppg just like that. Let's hope he can. Cook apologists said he needed more than half a season to get his team to settle and manage that return. Let's hope McKenna can show it is possible far more quickly.
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