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Not confirmed at present... on 08:04 - Feb 8 by bluelagos
Some classic TWTD on view here Bankster.
Something happens and people are outraged (Not unreasonably here)
When showing their disgust, one or two go completely over the top in their analogies and suggestions of what needs to be done. In fact so far ott that they reach a point of vein throbbing, frothy mouthed indignation*
Meanwhile others late to the story question what has happened (Not unreasonably). Others who are upto speed question the ott indignation of the most outraged (Not unreasonably).
Those most outraged then interpret those questioning their sanity (Terrorism ffs!) as supporting the act - and they double down.
We enter a spiral of accusations and counter accusations.
Then hold your disgust at someone questioning your arguments/sanity and wait for the next opportunity to throw some sh1t at someone. It can be a totally different thread, but hey - I remember what that person said a few months ago...
And breathe.
*I might have gone a bit ott there
Very well put I think! I just love to see how people from across the political spectrum attempt to fit me and my observations into their pre prepared boxes. But after all I am a rightie so it is probably well deserved!!
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
Not confirmed at present... on 08:14 - Feb 8 by GlasgowBlue
I disagree. It’s a tinderbox out there at the moment.
Mobs seem much more organised and far easier to fire up. A smear by Johnson seems to be all that is needed to surround the leader if the opposition.
They don’t care about Savile, but they know it will be lapped up by the far right. They don’t care about Assange, but they know it will be lapped up by the far left.
These are dangerous anti vaxxers who seem to have taken inspiration from the USA and imo it’s going to end up with somebody going too far.
I don't disagree with any of that tbh.
But some have suggested what we witnessed was "Close to terrorism"?
If you are simply saying this could develop into something horrific (as per Jo Cox) then I actually agree with you.
You can think the latter without thinking the former Glassers. (As I do)
Not confirmed at present... on 08:33 - Feb 8 by GlasgowBlue
I hadn’t seen terrorism mentioned. I wouldn’t use that definition.
Maybe cos only 1 person did, plus Harry10 then gave it a glancing blow with a mention of 'prevention of terrorism'; Lagos then referred back to an old tory proposal re 'thought crime'.
(I may have got that wrong as I'm barely awake tho!).
At no point have I said the harassment was ok.....the reaction to it, and the way people have attempted to frame it is over the top and misguided. Which bit do you and Badger disagree with whilst letting 'terrorist' analogies go unchallenged.
Edit...I do look pretty cool though.
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Not confirmed at present... on 09:49 - Feb 8 with 969 views
Very well put I think! I just love to see how people from across the political spectrum attempt to fit me and my observations into their pre prepared boxes. But after all I am a rightie so it is probably well deserved!!
Luckily I know everybody loves me really...
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
All aboard the Spectacle express. You got me Harry I just lurrrrrve Boris....of course it is me diminishing stuff and nothing to do with people wanting to exaggerate for dramatic, agenda driven affect. It was at most 20 people ffs, 2 of whom shouted the Saville nonsense.
How on earth is 20 people NOT a mob?! How would you describe it if not a mob and how many people does it need to become a mob?
Given what happened to Jo Cox and David Amess at the hand of one person, I imagine 20 jostling you and shouting would be pretty unnerving.
Trust the process. Trust Phil.
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Not confirmed at present... on 10:37 - Feb 8 with 875 views
Not confirmed at present... on 00:04 - Feb 8 by bluelagos
Let me get this straight, you think some dickheads shouting abuse at KS like 'paedo protector' or 'traitor' will be covered by the prevention of terrorism act?
We value our right to protest, rightly in this country. And the arguments that these idiots should be dealt with laws other than public order ones are right out of Priti's anti protest handbook.
It is possible to think these people are idiots, to back the police in dealing with them appropriately, and keep a sense of perspective about what they did.
Amazing how many on the left seem to go down the authoritarian route on this one, presumably because the victim of these idiots is a Labour politician?
While use of police counter terror powers might be unwarranted in this instance, I would not be surprised if some individuals were referred to prevent or names added to lists. The acts yesterday may not have been "terrorism", but they display a number red flags: extremist ideology, peddling of conspiracies, threats of violence and intimidation, etc...
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Not confirmed at present... on 10:38 - Feb 8 with 867 views
Not confirmed at present... on 21:31 - Feb 7 by Mullet
It would be quite funny if Starmer sued him for slander, but presumably he can't.
He can't sue him for comments made in the House of Commons as he is protected by Parliamentary privilege. He could sue him for slander if Johnson repeated the comments outside Parliament. That does not include Johnson refusing to apologise
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Not confirmed at present... on 13:33 - Feb 8 with 744 views
Not confirmed at present... on 00:04 - Feb 8 by bluelagos
Let me get this straight, you think some dickheads shouting abuse at KS like 'paedo protector' or 'traitor' will be covered by the prevention of terrorism act?
We value our right to protest, rightly in this country. And the arguments that these idiots should be dealt with laws other than public order ones are right out of Priti's anti protest handbook.
It is possible to think these people are idiots, to back the police in dealing with them appropriately, and keep a sense of perspective about what they did.
Amazing how many on the left seem to go down the authoritarian route on this one, presumably because the victim of these idiots is a Labour politician?
Another righty crank making up stuff, and then ranting against what he has invented.
I merely corrected another dim righty, by pointing out the legislation that already exists.
Whether it is a good idea to use this, whether it is appropriate etc I did not say or even infer.
No wonder you righties believe in so many conspiracy theories - they are products of your own invention.
And for those not sure what was posted by me -
"we can only police and punish people for what they do, not what they might do in the future"
Wrong, absolutely
see 'Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005' "
The words in italics are taken from a misinformed righty, my words were a correction.
That's all.
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Not confirmed at present... on 14:38 - Feb 8 with 651 views