| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell 16:25 - Feb 13 with 11410 views | GlasgowBlue |
Jamie Carragher: "You don't know actually what he's been through."
Graham Souness: "Not as much as the cat has been through". |  |
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| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 12:09 - Feb 14 with 1618 views | eireblue |
| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 11:39 - Feb 14 by chicoazul |
Where have I specifically told someone, anyone, advocating for what you say they are advocating for, that they are engaged in groupthink? And you talk to me about reading. |
Watch this and learn Chico. You are correct, you didn’t make a specific comment.
See that was easy.
“ I disagree with you and people like you although I know many people find groupthink very comforting.”
But, you brought up groupthink, in the context of our discussion.
You also, earlier, incorrectly characterised my posting.
And your language on your initial OP was of course, where I started out.
Your reluctance to be specific when using insulting terms, such as smoothbrain, and just stick to weasel words, is just going encourage people to infer things.
I like to be specific. I am not worried about you. I find you a source of amusement.
Would you like some articles on how to be more precise and specific when discussing topics? |  | | |
| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 12:09 - Feb 14 with 1611 views | Ryorry |
| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 12:04 - Feb 14 by chicoazul |
Someone who supports horse racing, a sport where animals are tortured and raced for our amusement, ought to step away from this entire argument and definitely not talk about empathy. |
"A sport where animals are tortured".
Yet a sport where 1 or more vets are in attendance at every meeting, but never step in to stop it. A sport which the RSPCA regularly watch but never step in to stop it.
Sh1t out of your arse, as per  |  |
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| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 12:12 - Feb 14 with 1597 views | chicoazul |
| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 12:09 - Feb 14 by eireblue |
Watch this and learn Chico. You are correct, you didn’t make a specific comment.
See that was easy.
“ I disagree with you and people like you although I know many people find groupthink very comforting.”
But, you brought up groupthink, in the context of our discussion.
You also, earlier, incorrectly characterised my posting.
And your language on your initial OP was of course, where I started out.
Your reluctance to be specific when using insulting terms, such as smoothbrain, and just stick to weasel words, is just going encourage people to infer things.
I like to be specific. I am not worried about you. I find you a source of amusement.
Would you like some articles on how to be more precise and specific when discussing topics? |
I can’t help what people infer, they can infer what they like. All anyone has to do is ask me a direct question as many people in this thread have and I’ll answer. The context of our discussion is around Zouma. I haven’t said anything about veagnisim and have no idea why you brought it up other than you thought it was clever to do so. If you’re not worried about me I have no idea why you keep trying to educate me for I think the third time now? |  |
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| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 12:18 - Feb 14 with 1583 views | chicoazul |
| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 12:09 - Feb 14 by Ryorry |
"A sport where animals are tortured".
Yet a sport where 1 or more vets are in attendance at every meeting, but never step in to stop it. A sport which the RSPCA regularly watch but never step in to stop it.
Sh1t out of your arse, as per |
“In British racing the use of a foam padded, air cushioned whip is permitted, with strict controls on its use.”
Whipping animals is torture. I’d quite rightly get in trouble if I whipped my dog in front of ten thousand people yet at Aintree it’s ok. | |
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| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 12:28 - Feb 14 with 1558 views | Ryorry |
| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 12:18 - Feb 14 by chicoazul |
“In British racing the use of a foam padded, air cushioned whip is permitted, with strict controls on its use.”
Whipping animals is torture. I’d quite rightly get in trouble if I whipped my dog in front of ten thousand people yet at Aintree it’s ok. |
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2011/oct/18/jockeys-whip-didnt-hurt
"A jockey whipped me 'as hard as I'd hit a horse' and it didn't hurt"
'Racing insiders claim their foam-cushioned whip is designed to produce noise, not pain. Our reporter put it to the test'.
The RSPCA removed this cat (and thousands of others, ditto dogs) because of the cruelty involved.
They don't routinely remove racehorses from owners because the owners race them.
Your desperation is showing. [Post edited 14 Feb 2022 12:29]
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| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 12:35 - Feb 14 with 1546 views | eireblue |
| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 12:12 - Feb 14 by chicoazul |
I can’t help what people infer, they can infer what they like. All anyone has to do is ask me a direct question as many people in this thread have and I’ll answer. The context of our discussion is around Zouma. I haven’t said anything about veagnisim and have no idea why you brought it up other than you thought it was clever to do so. If you’re not worried about me I have no idea why you keep trying to educate me for I think the third time now? |
When you did manage to be specific you stated,
“ I disagree with you and others like you, rubbing your hands with delight at the chance to tear someone down.”
That is not what I have done on this topic.
I have discussed this topic from my vegan perspective.
Can you show me where I have “ delighted at the chance to tear someone down”, on this topic, or indeed others?
Does that help you understand? | | | |
| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 13:35 - Feb 14 with 1476 views | chicoazul |
| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 12:35 - Feb 14 by eireblue |
When you did manage to be specific you stated,
“ I disagree with you and others like you, rubbing your hands with delight at the chance to tear someone down.”
That is not what I have done on this topic.
I have discussed this topic from my vegan perspective.
Can you show me where I have “ delighted at the chance to tear someone down”, on this topic, or indeed others?
Does that help you understand? |
I don’t agree that is not what you’ve done, unlike you following me around I don’t follow you around, and I understand you just fine. | |
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| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 13:42 - Feb 14 with 1456 views | eireblue |
| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 13:35 - Feb 14 by chicoazul |
I don’t agree that is not what you’ve done, unlike you following me around I don’t follow you around, and I understand you just fine. |
Can you show me where I have “ delighted at the chance to tear someone down”, on this topic, or indeed others? | | | |
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| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 14:29 - Feb 14 with 1401 views | monytowbray |
TWTD arguing over animal rights.
An exercise in deflection.
Weeeeeeeee. |  |
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| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 14:54 - Feb 14 with 1374 views | Zapers |
| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 14:29 - Feb 14 by monytowbray |
TWTD arguing over animal rights.
An exercise in deflection.
Weeeeeeeee. |
If you must. |  | | |
| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 15:42 - Feb 14 with 1336 views | chicoazul |
| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 13:42 - Feb 14 by eireblue |
Can you show me where I have “ delighted at the chance to tear someone down”, on this topic, or indeed others? |
Now. | |
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| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 21:13 - Feb 14 with 1247 views | Seablu |
| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 12:18 - Feb 14 by chicoazul |
“In British racing the use of a foam padded, air cushioned whip is permitted, with strict controls on its use.”
Whipping animals is torture. I’d quite rightly get in trouble if I whipped my dog in front of ten thousand people yet at Aintree it’s ok. |
I see on the news today that some show jumping hero decided it was fine to beat a horse in the style of Basil Fawlty giving his untrustworthy Austin 1100 a damn good thrashing.
I’m sure it was another isolated incident and all horses that choose to enter the sporting arena are treated like royalty…
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| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 21:22 - Feb 14 with 1229 views | Zapers |
| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 21:13 - Feb 14 by Seablu |
I see on the news today that some show jumping hero decided it was fine to beat a horse in the style of Basil Fawlty giving his untrustworthy Austin 1100 a damn good thrashing.
I’m sure it was another isolated incident and all horses that choose to enter the sporting arena are treated like royalty…
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Yes the horse in question had the audacity to refuse a water jump. The moron dishing out the thrashing was 65 years of wasted oxygen. | | | |
| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 22:06 - Feb 14 with 1193 views | Seablu |
| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 21:22 - Feb 14 by Zapers |
Yes the horse in question had the audacity to refuse a water jump. The moron dishing out the thrashing was 65 years of wasted oxygen. |
He loves all horses and animals equally and believes in total respect between rider and beast…
Unless it doesn’t do what he damn well wants, in which case he’ll thrash it with a stick so that some pillock in a dressage suit wins a bit of shiny metal.
Exactly the same mentality that pervades at racing stables. But they get a heated hut and a decent meal, so those who can’t live without their £2 each way get to feel all warm and cosy as they fund wholesale cruelty whilst living in blinkered denial..
£20 to RSPCA if Ryorry or Rommy avoid mashing the downvote key in indignant outrage… | | | |
| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 22:33 - Feb 14 with 1175 views | Ryorry |
| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 22:06 - Feb 14 by Seablu |
He loves all horses and animals equally and believes in total respect between rider and beast…
Unless it doesn’t do what he damn well wants, in which case he’ll thrash it with a stick so that some pillock in a dressage suit wins a bit of shiny metal.
Exactly the same mentality that pervades at racing stables. But they get a heated hut and a decent meal, so those who can’t live without their £2 each way get to feel all warm and cosy as they fund wholesale cruelty whilst living in blinkered denial..
£20 to RSPCA if Ryorry or Rommy avoid mashing the downvote key in indignant outrage… |
OK, I'll bite.
I expressed my abhorrence on twitter hours ago of that waste of space abusing the horse. No right-minded animal lover would condone him or his behaviour. Particularly stupid, out-dated & upsetting way of "training" any animal.
As far as racing's concerned, you're just 100% ignorant & obviously completely disinterested in hearing the facts about racing. I've been visited dozens of racing stables behind the scenes in my time, and would immediately whistle-blow any wrong-doing, abuse or cruelty I heard or saw. Never yet had any reason to do so. You & I have got on OK for the last year or so, so please stop inventing stuff & "mashing" your device's keys with propaganda, you haven't a clue what you're talking about.
Oh, and I've never bet "£2 each way". These days I do £0.50p e/w half a dozen times a year, if that. | |
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| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 22:49 - Feb 14 with 1156 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 22:33 - Feb 14 by Ryorry |
OK, I'll bite.
I expressed my abhorrence on twitter hours ago of that waste of space abusing the horse. No right-minded animal lover would condone him or his behaviour. Particularly stupid, out-dated & upsetting way of "training" any animal.
As far as racing's concerned, you're just 100% ignorant & obviously completely disinterested in hearing the facts about racing. I've been visited dozens of racing stables behind the scenes in my time, and would immediately whistle-blow any wrong-doing, abuse or cruelty I heard or saw. Never yet had any reason to do so. You & I have got on OK for the last year or so, so please stop inventing stuff & "mashing" your device's keys with propaganda, you haven't a clue what you're talking about.
Oh, and I've never bet "£2 each way". These days I do £0.50p e/w half a dozen times a year, if that. |
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| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 01:04 - Feb 15 with 1094 views | Ryorry |
| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 14:29 - Feb 14 by monytowbray |
TWTD arguing over animal rights.
An exercise in deflection.
Weeeeeeeee. |
Hope you made it to the toilet. | |
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| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 01:38 - Feb 15 with 1069 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 22:06 - Feb 14 by Seablu |
He loves all horses and animals equally and believes in total respect between rider and beast…
Unless it doesn’t do what he damn well wants, in which case he’ll thrash it with a stick so that some pillock in a dressage suit wins a bit of shiny metal.
Exactly the same mentality that pervades at racing stables. But they get a heated hut and a decent meal, so those who can’t live without their £2 each way get to feel all warm and cosy as they fund wholesale cruelty whilst living in blinkered denial..
£20 to RSPCA if Ryorry or Rommy avoid mashing the downvote key in indignant outrage… |
I don’t think it’s fair to be mentioning my name in threads I’m not part of. I don’t do it to others and you wouldn’t like it if you had your name mentioned from nowhere. |  |
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| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell (n/t) on 05:44 - Feb 15 with 1053 views | textbackup |
| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 09:38 - Feb 14 by chicoazul |
Me; I feel sorry for Zouma and his family over this very stupid nasty thing
Textbackup; I hope when I murder someone you’re on the jury because you will obviously let me off as you support people who commit crimes |
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| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 08:28 - Feb 15 with 983 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Zouma has dropped out of the starting eleven due to feeling unwell on 17:38 - Feb 13 by chicoazul |
Be interested to know how all the pearl clutchers on here would react when their worst day was broadcast to a billion people and they had to play football in front of large pitiless football crowds immediately after. |
It's quite impressive how you manage to come down onto the wrong side of every discussion.
The poor premier league footballer has to put up with some booing due to a cowardly attack on a defenceless animal. How will he ever cope? |  |
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