| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? 13:12 - Feb 23 with 4842 views | Asa |
Most of us can see that 7 wins, 2 draws and 2 defeats is an excellent start (those two defeats away to two of the form teams at the time as well), but to be on the verge of a club record so quickly?
What's amazing to me is that it won't just be a record for clean sheets that could be broken Saturday, something that we didn't achieve with some of the best defenders in the world or even in a McCarthy side that might set up to be super negative. It's the fact that during those 5 clean sheets and 8 in his first 11, we've won so many games, we've played some lovely stuff and we've not been at all boring to watch or what you'd associate with a side about to potentially break a hundred and something year old clean sheet record.
To do that straight off the bat, with a new side, one that was underperforming, with an oversized squad and so on is absolutely remarkable.
To climb the table at the same time, seemingly create a proper team harmony, I don't think anybody could have done a better job and it bodes incredibly well for next season and beyond, if not this season.
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| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 15:21 - Feb 23 with 955 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 15:14 - Feb 23 by Illinoisblue |
Hold on to your hat and provide data that actually means something to reinforce your point. |
"It does illustrate the point that more fans are at our away games than anyone else's" - Phil Ham, 23/02/2022, just now.
I await your apology, and it had better be suitably grovelling for me to accept it. |  |
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| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 15:22 - Feb 23 with 953 views | PhilTWTD |
| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 15:19 - Feb 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Thanks Philip. |
We do seem to be going down a bit of a blind alley anyway. Your overall point that we're a big fish in the League One pond is undeniable. |  | | |
| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 15:23 - Feb 23 with 942 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 14:51 - Feb 23 by BlueandTruesince82 |
In fairness he did say in terms of away fans.
Not biggest over all |
I left out "away" initially.
Regardless, my point was we're a big fish in this league, whereas in the past we were the small fish. So it would be a bit harder for the managers who managed us in the leagues above. | |
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| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 15:26 - Feb 23 with 938 views | Illinoisblue |
| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 15:21 - Feb 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
"It does illustrate the point that more fans are at our away games than anyone else's" - Phil Ham, 23/02/2022, just now.
I await your apology, and it had better be suitably grovelling for me to accept it. |
I’m going to bow out with a cheery wave and a reminder that i twice agreed with you whilst also pointing out your factual inaccuracies. Shall we call it a draw? |  |
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| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 15:28 - Feb 23 with 931 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 15:26 - Feb 23 by Illinoisblue |
I’m going to bow out with a cheery wave and a reminder that i twice agreed with you whilst also pointing out your factual inaccuracies. Shall we call it a draw? |
Haha. I dun you up like a kipper. | |
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| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 15:30 - Feb 23 with 934 views | clive_baker |
| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 15:22 - Feb 23 by PhilTWTD |
We do seem to be going down a bit of a blind alley anyway. Your overall point that we're a big fish in the League One pond is undeniable. |
Lets not pretend that this data validates the claim of having more away fans at games though? More fans on average at our away games (thus far) is very different to us taking more away fans. It depends on who we've played for a start. We've not been to Morecambe, Fleetwood, Shrewsbury or Crewe yet which will be tiny gates, some of the lowest in the division, so they'll all bring that average down.
It's inconclusive, wouldn't stand up in kangaroo court. Sunderland took 5,000 fans to Bolton, that's not abnormal for them.
It's only a bit of fun though Phil, it's all in good humour. Dolly's original point was merely that we're a big fish at this level, which is utterly undeniable. |  |
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| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 15:33 - Feb 23 with 916 views | Illinoisblue |
| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 15:28 - Feb 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Haha. I dun you up like a kipper. |
You can have the moral victory. I’ll take the W. | |
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| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 15:34 - Feb 23 with 919 views | positivity |
| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 15:30 - Feb 23 by clive_baker |
Lets not pretend that this data validates the claim of having more away fans at games though? More fans on average at our away games (thus far) is very different to us taking more away fans. It depends on who we've played for a start. We've not been to Morecambe, Fleetwood, Shrewsbury or Crewe yet which will be tiny gates, some of the lowest in the division, so they'll all bring that average down.
It's inconclusive, wouldn't stand up in kangaroo court. Sunderland took 5,000 fans to Bolton, that's not abnormal for them.
It's only a bit of fun though Phil, it's all in good humour. Dolly's original point was merely that we're a big fish at this level, which is utterly undeniable. |
you could also argue that we're at a statistical disadvantage as we don't have an away game against ipswich town, which would bump the average up! | |
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| Asa, we support Ipswich..... on 15:39 - Feb 23 with 917 views | Bloots |
....nice things don't happen to us.
We'll narrowly miss out this year and he'll go to West Brom in the summer.
Bookmark this. |  |
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| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 15:43 - Feb 23 with 901 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 15:30 - Feb 23 by clive_baker |
Lets not pretend that this data validates the claim of having more away fans at games though? More fans on average at our away games (thus far) is very different to us taking more away fans. It depends on who we've played for a start. We've not been to Morecambe, Fleetwood, Shrewsbury or Crewe yet which will be tiny gates, some of the lowest in the division, so they'll all bring that average down.
It's inconclusive, wouldn't stand up in kangaroo court. Sunderland took 5,000 fans to Bolton, that's not abnormal for them.
It's only a bit of fun though Phil, it's all in good humour. Dolly's original point was merely that we're a big fish at this level, which is utterly undeniable. |
What if you add in iFollow attendances? We smash that record on a regular basis! | |
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| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 15:44 - Feb 23 with 899 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 15:33 - Feb 23 by Illinoisblue |
You can have the moral victory. I’ll take the W. |
The W? | |
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| Asa, we support Ipswich..... on 15:46 - Feb 23 with 897 views | hype313 |
| Asa, we support Ipswich..... on 15:39 - Feb 23 by Bloots |
....nice things don't happen to us.
We'll narrowly miss out this year and he'll go to West Brom in the summer.
Bookmark this. |
C'mon now, Steve Bruce is doing an unbelievable job there... |  |
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| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 15:50 - Feb 23 with 888 views | Illinoisblue |
| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 15:44 - Feb 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
The W? |
If you have to ask… | |
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| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 15:58 - Feb 23 with 872 views | Radlett_blue |
| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 13:49 - Feb 23 by clive_baker |
For me it's not even about clean sheets, it's more the absolute amount of goals we've conceded. Obviously they're linked, but it's not like we're keeping clean sheets one week and shipping 3 the next. 4 conceded in 11 games is remarkably good. We're not far off 1/4 of a season under McKenna. It's partly due to us being better in possession, playing more football in their 3rd and dominating good possession, they can't score while we have the ball, but I also think we just look so much more solid when defending too. We're not impenetrable, we never will be, but from Walton all the way to the front players we're pressing with urgency, winning the ball back quicker, giving away far less cheap territory and set pieces. We're just a much better team than we were 2 months ago, and long may that continue. It might well be too late to salvage this season, but thats no reflection on KM and his team at all. It gives me a lot of hope going into next season though. |
McKenna is obviously a good coach - Town have quickly looked like a team with a plan, while he also isn't totally inflexible over how he sets the team up. He also seems to have done a good job of pruning the bloated squad to a more manageable group of around 23 players, while getting more out of players who had been written off, like Jackson. We could make the play-offs & of we do, no-one will fancy playing an in-form Town.
If we don't go up, McKenna has shown enough to merit some backing in the transfer market & it will be interesting to see how he re-shapes the squad over the summer. |  |
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| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 16:03 - Feb 23 with 857 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 15:50 - Feb 23 by Illinoisblue |
If you have to ask… |
I presume it's win. Which, of course, you didn't. | |
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| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 16:11 - Feb 23 with 844 views | BigCommon |
He's got a hell of a lot right, so far, imo. And he's getting credit for that, for sure....
He cut a disappointed/frustrated figure, in last nights post match presser....
A sense of realisation, perhaps? That there is still work to do, and possibly, a player or two .required. In order to really push on...
I don't think he got it spot on, last night. But at the same time, there were one or two players out there, that didn't step up, either... Think we have to accept, that despite an encouraging start to management. KM, is still learning on the job, to a degree,, And we should also accept, that some of our players are playing at this level for a reason....
He would have learned a great deal from this game. Both, in terms of himself, and what he could have done better.. And in terms of the current level of ability and attitude of some of his players. .I'm quite sure, this knowledge gained, will add something to the project, overall .. |  | | |
| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 16:25 - Feb 23 with 822 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 15:43 - Feb 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
What if you add in iFollow attendances? We smash that record on a regular basis! |
‘Best armchair supporters in League One, season 2021/22’ |  |
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| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 16:30 - Feb 23 with 818 views | Edmunds5 |
I don't know if he's created a 'proper team harmony' as such. I think he has just made certain individuals feel part of a team again. |  |
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| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 16:36 - Feb 23 with 805 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 13:21 - Feb 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I don't think he created the proper team harmony, I think that was already there. But yes, other than that I agree. And for a manager not only new to Ipswich, but being new to management, that's extraordinary.
There is the caveat compared to our past teams that he's doing it in the third tier, but even so it's still pretty impressive as you say. |
I think there are a number of players who would argue there was a lack of harmony before McKenna arrived who are much more settled now.
The bigger question is whether McKenna can continue to manage the squad in that way moving forward. I certainly have more confidence in his ability to do so than any of our previous 3 managers.
As for the graph you shared. The data will be skewed by which teams have played at Sunderland, Sheffield, Portsmouth and at Cheltenham, Morecambe, Fleetwood, etc. However, the point that we travel in good numbers (and draw interest from the home fans coming to watch too) is correct. There is no doubt that we are one of the more financially well-off clubs at this level. |  |
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| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 16:37 - Feb 23 with 802 views | Garv |
| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 16:25 - Feb 23 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
‘Best armchair supporters in League One, season 2021/22’ |
I'd argue you have to be a fairly devoted fan to watch games on ifollow (assuming you physically couldn't make the game), especially over the last few years (granted during 20/21) that was your only option. |  |
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| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 17:11 - Feb 23 with 756 views | Illinoisblue |
| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 16:03 - Feb 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I presume it's win. Which, of course, you didn't. |
Oh s5it, we’re going to a replay? | |
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| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 17:28 - Feb 23 with 731 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 16:25 - Feb 23 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
‘Best armchair supporters in League One, season 2021/22’ |
Well, in a way, yes. But whilst we're top of the actual attendance as well, it's rather a good thing. It shows the wide support we have around the country, and indeed the world. | |
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| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 17:31 - Feb 23 with 728 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 16:36 - Feb 23 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I think there are a number of players who would argue there was a lack of harmony before McKenna arrived who are much more settled now.
The bigger question is whether McKenna can continue to manage the squad in that way moving forward. I certainly have more confidence in his ability to do so than any of our previous 3 managers.
As for the graph you shared. The data will be skewed by which teams have played at Sunderland, Sheffield, Portsmouth and at Cheltenham, Morecambe, Fleetwood, etc. However, the point that we travel in good numbers (and draw interest from the home fans coming to watch too) is correct. There is no doubt that we are one of the more financially well-off clubs at this level. |
Do you have any evidence for this lack of harmony before McKenna arrived?
There might not've been enough harmony on the pitch but I'm unaware of any problems with each other off it. | |
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| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 17:42 - Feb 23 with 720 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 17:28 - Feb 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Well, in a way, yes. But whilst we're top of the actual attendance as well, it's rather a good thing. It shows the wide support we have around the country, and indeed the world. |
Bit disappointing to be worse supported than Burton last night though | |
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| Does McKenna deserve even more credit that he's been getting? on 17:43 - Feb 23 with 721 views | Vaughan8 |
earlier in the season we have more games of conceding 2+ goals than not which is actually really bad.
He seems to have changed the system and we have become more robust at the back (as well as Nsiala leaving ;) coincidence?? haha).
However, didn't Lambert equal the 5 clean sheets in a row in this league so I don't think its a MASSIVE thing to do considering the league we are in but still very good.
Keeping clean sheets is a good trait to have and so i'm glad for this! I hope we break the record saturday. | | | |
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