| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… 13:31 - Feb 28 with 4390 views | monytowbray |
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| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 20:18 - Feb 28 with 797 views | monytowbray |
| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 19:39 - Feb 28 by MattinLondon |
If alcohol was invented today then it would easily be a Class A drug…but it wasn’t and culturally its been part of society for centuries. Saying that weed (which is harmful) should be legalised due to alcohol being legal is nonsense in my opinion. [Post edited 28 Feb 2022 19:39]
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So you are pro the criminalisation of alcohol then?
Again, who says what is harmful to you or I on a personal basis? | |
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| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 20:24 - Feb 28 with 784 views | BonchosBicycle |
To address a couple of points here, prices - even in recreational stores here - are comparable or better than I used to get from "my guy". Recreational is more highly taxed than medical but medical cards are pretty easy to legally get in Maine. YMMV elsewhere.
As for smoking, legalization has made it easy to get high-quality edibles, vapes, drinks, and anything else you can think of so you need never set anything on fire if you don't want to. And, the quality of everything is regulated, strengths published.
For any interested in what legalisation looks here, here's a link to a big legal chain store in the state - https://curaleaf.com/shop/maine/curaleaf-me-south-portland There are also hundreds of small businesses in the state with storefronts these days.
I'm actually not a huge evangelist for marijuana or anything, but I do firmly believe people should have the right to choose what they want to ingest and that making drugs illegal causes way more problems than it solves for too many reasons to go into here - although some have been touched on elsewhere. [Post edited 28 Feb 2022 20:24]
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| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 20:27 - Feb 28 with 776 views | MattinLondon |
| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 20:18 - Feb 28 by monytowbray |
So you are pro the criminalisation of alcohol then?
Again, who says what is harmful to you or I on a personal basis? |
No. I like a drink and I don’t really hold any strong opinions whether Weed should or should not be legalised. Just, in my opinion, arguing that one substance is harmful and so another substance should be legalised doesn’t hold water for me.
Sorry, don’t really understand your last sentence. |  | | |
| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 20:32 - Feb 28 with 767 views | monytowbray |
| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 20:27 - Feb 28 by MattinLondon |
No. I like a drink and I don’t really hold any strong opinions whether Weed should or should not be legalised. Just, in my opinion, arguing that one substance is harmful and so another substance should be legalised doesn’t hold water for me.
Sorry, don’t really understand your last sentence. |
Sorry mate but that straight up makes you a hypocrite if you can’t see the point and you “like drink”. I don’t drink and I’ve had endless demons with drink in the past.
Booze causes far more damage to society than weed could. It’s completely logical on that basis to legalise it.
I like weed. You like booze. Why am I a criminal for my choice of altered state? That’s the point of my last sentence. | |
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| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 20:38 - Feb 28 with 738 views | monytowbray |
| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 20:24 - Feb 28 by BonchosBicycle |
To address a couple of points here, prices - even in recreational stores here - are comparable or better than I used to get from "my guy". Recreational is more highly taxed than medical but medical cards are pretty easy to legally get in Maine. YMMV elsewhere.
As for smoking, legalization has made it easy to get high-quality edibles, vapes, drinks, and anything else you can think of so you need never set anything on fire if you don't want to. And, the quality of everything is regulated, strengths published.
For any interested in what legalisation looks here, here's a link to a big legal chain store in the state - https://curaleaf.com/shop/maine/curaleaf-me-south-portland There are also hundreds of small businesses in the state with storefronts these days.
I'm actually not a huge evangelist for marijuana or anything, but I do firmly believe people should have the right to choose what they want to ingest and that making drugs illegal causes way more problems than it solves for too many reasons to go into here - although some have been touched on elsewhere. [Post edited 28 Feb 2022 20:24]
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Yeah but the Amazon. | |
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| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 20:47 - Feb 28 with 730 views | BonchosBicycle |
| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 20:38 - Feb 28 by monytowbray |
Yeah but the Amazon. |
Yeah, even here Amazon won't deliver it :-) | | | |
| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 20:49 - Feb 28 with 729 views | istanblue |
What could possibly go wrong? |  | | |
| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 20:55 - Feb 28 with 726 views | Zapers |
| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 19:03 - Feb 28 by monytowbray |
Can reduce anxiety, improve productivity, help people who suffer with pain diagnosis, to name a few. |
Who tells you this nonsense? Helps with anxiety!
Cannabis like any mood altering drug can be very addictive and cause paranoid and anxiety. It's very dangerous to spout off about something many people have problems with, and might continue to have problems with all their lives.
I suggest if you can't drink responsibly, you definitely cannot do mood altering drugs. |  | | |
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| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 20:56 - Feb 28 with 723 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 19:52 - Feb 28 by ArnoldMoorhen |
All you need to know to understand it is that Cannabis was historically a drug used by Black minorities in the UK. It wasn't long between the Windrush generation's arrival and Cannabis being referenced in "moral panic" articles, often with clear racist overtones.
Opium, on the other hand, was used by the White Upper Class and was legal for years. It was made illegal after being referenced in "moral panic" articles, often with clear racist overtones, in that case against the Chinese community. Of course it was white British merchants who introduced Opium to China... |
It was also demonised by timber merchants that saw how hemp could potentially bankrupt them, though mostly in the US the propaganda had the intended impact further a field.
Rope, clothes, insulation, paper, ink, shampoo to name a few.
Ultimately abuse of anything is generally bad for you, even cheese. |  |
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| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 20:57 - Feb 28 with 722 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 20:55 - Feb 28 by Zapers |
Who tells you this nonsense? Helps with anxiety!
Cannabis like any mood altering drug can be very addictive and cause paranoid and anxiety. It's very dangerous to spout off about something many people have problems with, and might continue to have problems with all their lives.
I suggest if you can't drink responsibly, you definitely cannot do mood altering drugs. |
“ cause paranoid and anxiety”
Definitely no evidence of that on this thread. | | | |
| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 21:00 - Feb 28 with 720 views | monytowbray |
| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 20:55 - Feb 28 by Zapers |
Who tells you this nonsense? Helps with anxiety!
Cannabis like any mood altering drug can be very addictive and cause paranoid and anxiety. It's very dangerous to spout off about something many people have problems with, and might continue to have problems with all their lives.
I suggest if you can't drink responsibly, you definitely cannot do mood altering drugs. |
Science and personal experience tells me this “nonsense”…
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/marijuana-and-anxiety
Please do tell us what makes you more qualified to comment.
Don’t patronise me over what I can and can’t handle either. You don’t know me. [Post edited 28 Feb 2022 21:05]
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| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 21:02 - Feb 28 with 714 views | monytowbray |
| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 20:57 - Feb 28 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
“ cause paranoid and anxiety”
Definitely no evidence of that on this thread. |
Please do point to evidence of this claim… | |
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| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 21:04 - Feb 28 with 713 views | monytowbray |
At least those against the idea in the OP can now find comfort in the fact DaveU agrees with them.
Well done. | |
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| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 21:07 - Feb 28 with 703 views | Zapers |
| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 21:00 - Feb 28 by monytowbray |
Science and personal experience tells me this “nonsense”…
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/marijuana-and-anxiety
Please do tell us what makes you more qualified to comment.
Don’t patronise me over what I can and can’t handle either. You don’t know me. [Post edited 28 Feb 2022 21:05]
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And neither do I wish to know you. How about 8 years of personal experience in N/A and AA. Hard won experience i might add.
But you carry on smoking if you wish, just don't need to brag about it. | | | |
| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 21:13 - Feb 28 with 697 views | monytowbray |
| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 21:07 - Feb 28 by Zapers |
And neither do I wish to know you. How about 8 years of personal experience in N/A and AA. Hard won experience i might add.
But you carry on smoking if you wish, just don't need to brag about it. |
I didn’t invite you to get to know me. Trust me the feeling is mutual.
You’re being very vague with your expertise, how it applies or any counter against that link I sent.
You think I posted this to brag? Jesus, do you think I’m 12? I’m more interested in progressive drug laws to be honest. [Post edited 28 Feb 2022 21:14]
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| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 21:50 - Feb 28 with 663 views | Mullet |
| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 20:24 - Feb 28 by BonchosBicycle |
To address a couple of points here, prices - even in recreational stores here - are comparable or better than I used to get from "my guy". Recreational is more highly taxed than medical but medical cards are pretty easy to legally get in Maine. YMMV elsewhere.
As for smoking, legalization has made it easy to get high-quality edibles, vapes, drinks, and anything else you can think of so you need never set anything on fire if you don't want to. And, the quality of everything is regulated, strengths published.
For any interested in what legalisation looks here, here's a link to a big legal chain store in the state - https://curaleaf.com/shop/maine/curaleaf-me-south-portland There are also hundreds of small businesses in the state with storefronts these days.
I'm actually not a huge evangelist for marijuana or anything, but I do firmly believe people should have the right to choose what they want to ingest and that making drugs illegal causes way more problems than it solves for too many reasons to go into here - although some have been touched on elsewhere. [Post edited 28 Feb 2022 20:24]
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I'm surprised the American model hasn't been adopted here given the tax benefits and potential for the government. The evangelism of Joe Rogan seems to have opened the idea up to a bigger demographic too, I know of more people who let slip they consume edibles etc for example.
For me legalisation of all drugs makes sense, because you can regulate them and reduce much of the social harm potentially, but I've little faith it will be well managed. |  |
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| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 21:53 - Feb 28 with 648 views | MattinLondon |
| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 20:32 - Feb 28 by monytowbray |
Sorry mate but that straight up makes you a hypocrite if you can’t see the point and you “like drink”. I don’t drink and I’ve had endless demons with drink in the past.
Booze causes far more damage to society than weed could. It’s completely logical on that basis to legalise it.
I like weed. You like booze. Why am I a criminal for my choice of altered state? That’s the point of my last sentence. |
Alcohol causes more damage as it is legal - more freely available and accessible. If more drugs became legal would that cause more bad to happen to society?
It’ll be interesting to see in a few years of so to ascertain whether or not the legalisation of it in various countries and states causes more damage to their societies. If it doesn’t, then I’ll say legalise it. | | | |
| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 21:56 - Feb 28 with 645 views | Darth_Koont |
| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 20:56 - Feb 28 by BlueandTruesince82 |
It was also demonised by timber merchants that saw how hemp could potentially bankrupt them, though mostly in the US the propaganda had the intended impact further a field.
Rope, clothes, insulation, paper, ink, shampoo to name a few.
Ultimately abuse of anything is generally bad for you, even cheese. |
F@ck you!
The only way you’re getting my wheel of cheese is by prying it from my cold, dead and massively swollen hands. |  |
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| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 22:00 - Feb 28 with 623 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 21:50 - Feb 28 by Mullet |
I'm surprised the American model hasn't been adopted here given the tax benefits and potential for the government. The evangelism of Joe Rogan seems to have opened the idea up to a bigger demographic too, I know of more people who let slip they consume edibles etc for example.
For me legalisation of all drugs makes sense, because you can regulate them and reduce much of the social harm potentially, but I've little faith it will be well managed. |
I don’t have an an issue with cannibis, I don’t think it’s a harmful drug - it make sense to legalise.
But harder drugs I’m not sure. Having lived in an estate with severe drug use, I’d be concerned that the same (non-dealing) issues would still be there. I’m talking about things I experienced daily - dirty needles in the street, addicts defecating on the pavement, theft etc.
I don’t see how legalising it would take those social issue away. | | | |
| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 22:06 - Feb 28 with 598 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 18:00 - Feb 28 by ZXBlue |
Put aside the environmental and crime issues connected with it. Go and speak to people involved in child protection about the problems associated with heavy cannabis use and the mental health issues thought to be asosiocated with it. |
But no marks for the, perfectly scanned I might add, lyric replacement to highlight what seemed a bit of an absurd claim that growing cannabis is a major contributor to global warming?
Too young to remember Cheech and Chong perhaps?
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| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 22:08 - Feb 28 with 583 views | Mullet |
| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 22:00 - Feb 28 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
I don’t have an an issue with cannibis, I don’t think it’s a harmful drug - it make sense to legalise.
But harder drugs I’m not sure. Having lived in an estate with severe drug use, I’d be concerned that the same (non-dealing) issues would still be there. I’m talking about things I experienced daily - dirty needles in the street, addicts defecating on the pavement, theft etc.
I don’t see how legalising it would take those social issue away. |
This is the biggest problem, because those behaviours are engrained. Likewise, why do these people need to use? It's probably not because they like risking their health and lives etc. But if legalised and controlled can they be steered towards better meds, better therapy and reduce anti-social behaviour and crime?
That's a huge societal push that needs a lot of buy-in and longstanding attitudes to change quickly. | |
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| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 22:08 - Feb 28 with 582 views | monytowbray |
| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 21:53 - Feb 28 by MattinLondon |
Alcohol causes more damage as it is legal - more freely available and accessible. If more drugs became legal would that cause more bad to happen to society?
It’ll be interesting to see in a few years of so to ascertain whether or not the legalisation of it in various countries and states causes more damage to their societies. If it doesn’t, then I’ll say legalise it. |
No, alcohol is addictive and a depressant. Legal or illegal. It causes memory loss and violent out-of-character behaviour.
Those are facts on an individual basis. | |
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| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 22:09 - Feb 28 with 580 views | Darth_Koont |
| Seems like a good time to commit to legalising Weed… on 22:00 - Feb 28 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
I don’t have an an issue with cannibis, I don’t think it’s a harmful drug - it make sense to legalise.
But harder drugs I’m not sure. Having lived in an estate with severe drug use, I’d be concerned that the same (non-dealing) issues would still be there. I’m talking about things I experienced daily - dirty needles in the street, addicts defecating on the pavement, theft etc.
I don’t see how legalising it would take those social issue away. |
Decriminalising and socialising drugs takes the majority of that away.
Then you’re left with side-effects and the extremes of addiction. But genuinely nothing like those same effects for alcohol.
That doesn’t help underlying social deprivation and the problems it causes. But that’s a separate matter – and at least drugs, their use and drug crime become somewhat manageable. | |
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