| Local elections? 09:56 - May 4 with 6586 views | Darth_Koont |
What a strange country we are that the local elections are becoming Partygate vs. Beergate and anything else that makes up the Westminster political/media bubble.
Local government on its own terms should be the focus. The only connection made to Westminster should be how local resources and services have been starved of funds over decades.
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| Local elections? on 08:21 - May 5 with 1252 views | blueasfook |
I'll be voting Labour in the local election.
And probably Labour at the next GE. Now that they're a viable party again |  |
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| Local elections? on 09:12 - May 5 with 1212 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Local elections? on 08:21 - May 5 by blueasfook |
I'll be voting Labour in the local election.
And probably Labour at the next GE. Now that they're a viable party again |
I’ll just off to the polls and will also be voting Labour.
If they want my vote at the next GE then they have to rid the party of people like this .
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| Local elections? on 09:20 - May 5 with 1192 views | blueasfook |
| Local elections? on 09:12 - May 5 by GlasgowBlue |
I’ll just off to the polls and will also be voting Labour.
If they want my vote at the next GE then they have to rid the party of people like this .
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For me, Corbyn and his loony chums gone is the major improvement.
Long live Sir Keir. | |
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| Local elections? on 09:33 - May 5 with 1184 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Local elections? on 09:20 - May 5 by blueasfook |
For me, Corbyn and his loony chums gone is the major improvement.
Long live Sir Keir. |
Starmer actually looks and sounds like a Prime Minister in waiting and his front bench is a vast improvement over that under Corbyn or the shower under Johnson.
The cranks and racists still need routing out though. | |
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| Local elections? on 09:49 - May 5 with 1166 views | blueasfook |
| Local elections? on 09:33 - May 5 by GlasgowBlue |
Starmer actually looks and sounds like a Prime Minister in waiting and his front bench is a vast improvement over that under Corbyn or the shower under Johnson.
The cranks and racists still need routing out though. |
That's long been a Labour bugbear - as sleaze has been for the tories.
It's a question of the lesser evils. I think under Kier they are electable again.
And yes his front bench is much improved over Corbyn's when you had idiots like Dianne Abbott <shudder> | |
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| Local elections? on 10:02 - May 5 with 1150 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Local elections? on 09:49 - May 5 by blueasfook |
That's long been a Labour bugbear - as sleaze has been for the tories.
It's a question of the lesser evils. I think under Kier they are electable again.
And yes his front bench is much improved over Corbyn's when you had idiots like Dianne Abbott <shudder> |
Diane doing the Tories job for them during an election week.
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| Local elections? on 10:11 - May 5 with 1140 views | rattram |
| Local elections? on 08:04 - May 5 by ElephantintheRoom |
Also curious that no politics are allowed on tele because it might influence your vote.
Turnout will be 30% and ´parties’ that win seats on local councils with 30% of of 30% will be claiming tectonic plates have shifted. |
I have 2 Independents standing and between them I've received 6 leaflets. Nothing from Labour or Lib Dem and 1 from Tory. I voted by post last week and was able to vote for both Independents because you're allowed to vote for as many as you want. You just put a 1 or a 2 against them |  | | |
| Local elections? on 10:23 - May 5 with 1129 views | blueasfook |
| Local elections? on 10:02 - May 5 by GlasgowBlue |
Diane doing the Tories job for them during an election week.
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Since when did she become concerned about defence spending?!
Oh since she's no longer at the top table, of course! | |
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| Local elections? on 10:25 - May 5 with 1131 views | Darth_Koont |
| Local elections? on 08:21 - May 5 by blueasfook |
I'll be voting Labour in the local election.
And probably Labour at the next GE. Now that they're a viable party again |
Labour now being viable to voters like you is a symptom of the UK’s incessant slide right and slide into irrelevance.
I’ll never vote for opportunistic, unprincipled and policy-less liars like Boris AND Starmer plus their associated cronies. Not least because they’re failing the country while helping themselves. | |
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| Local elections? on 10:25 - May 5 with 1123 views | ZXBlue |
Nonsense as usual.
It is highly relevant to local elections to consider the party to which the candidate has chosen to proudly align, its values, and the reflected values and ideology of the person in question. | | | |
| Local elections? on 10:27 - May 5 with 1118 views | Darth_Koont |
| Local elections? on 09:33 - May 5 by GlasgowBlue |
Starmer actually looks and sounds like a Prime Minister in waiting and his front bench is a vast improvement over that under Corbyn or the shower under Johnson.
The cranks and racists still need routing out though. |
Like Luke Akehurst and Trevor Phillips among many others?
Quite agree but they’re embedded I’m afraid. | |
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| Local elections? on 10:30 - May 5 with 1110 views | Ryorry |
| Local elections? on 10:11 - May 5 by rattram |
I have 2 Independents standing and between them I've received 6 leaflets. Nothing from Labour or Lib Dem and 1 from Tory. I voted by post last week and was able to vote for both Independents because you're allowed to vote for as many as you want. You just put a 1 or a 2 against them |
Really? Where do you live? |  |
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| Local elections? on 10:30 - May 5 with 1111 views | ZXBlue |
| Local elections? on 10:25 - May 5 by Darth_Koont |
Labour now being viable to voters like you is a symptom of the UK’s incessant slide right and slide into irrelevance.
I’ll never vote for opportunistic, unprincipled and policy-less liars like Boris AND Starmer plus their associated cronies. Not least because they’re failing the country while helping themselves. |
You roll this nonsense out every single time.
So far you have never (1) actually been clear about how you can possibly equate Boris and Starmer in terms of integrity; or (2) explained how cutting off your nose to spite your face is better than casting a vote which might help make some improvement (eve if its not the improvement you would wish). | | | |
| Local elections? on 10:31 - May 5 with 1108 views | Darth_Koont |
| Local elections? on 10:25 - May 5 by ZXBlue |
Nonsense as usual.
It is highly relevant to local elections to consider the party to which the candidate has chosen to proudly align, its values, and the reflected values and ideology of the person in question. |
Remarkably short-sighted as usual.
UK politics seems completely allergic to discussing real issues and policies as well as giving people their democratic voice to effect change in their lives. Even on local matters. | |
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| Local elections? on 10:34 - May 5 with 1095 views | Darth_Koont |
| Local elections? on 10:30 - May 5 by ZXBlue |
You roll this nonsense out every single time.
So far you have never (1) actually been clear about how you can possibly equate Boris and Starmer in terms of integrity; or (2) explained how cutting off your nose to spite your face is better than casting a vote which might help make some improvement (eve if its not the improvement you would wish). |
Why do you trust Starmer if he broke every single one of his 10 leadership pledges and is vacant on policy?
The only difference with Boris is that he’s brazen on these matters. | |
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| Local elections? on 10:35 - May 5 with 1093 views | ZXBlue |
| Local elections? on 10:31 - May 5 by Darth_Koont |
Remarkably short-sighted as usual.
UK politics seems completely allergic to discussing real issues and policies as well as giving people their democratic voice to effect change in their lives. Even on local matters. |
It is now "short sighted" to take into account a candidates ideology, outlook on matters of integrity and chosen political affiliation?
Well I never. | | | |
| Local elections? on 10:36 - May 5 with 1094 views | giant_stow |
| Local elections? on 10:31 - May 5 by Darth_Koont |
Remarkably short-sighted as usual.
UK politics seems completely allergic to discussing real issues and policies as well as giving people their democratic voice to effect change in their lives. Even on local matters. |
Not up for our usual ding dong, but just to say that in my book there's nothing wrong with being short-sighted right now. We have an urgent need to be in fact. |  |
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| Local elections? on 10:36 - May 5 with 1092 views | ZXBlue |
| Local elections? on 10:34 - May 5 by Darth_Koont |
Why do you trust Starmer if he broke every single one of his 10 leadership pledges and is vacant on policy?
The only difference with Boris is that he’s brazen on these matters. |
Why dont you address the points made? Its a complete false equivalence and you know it. You just have an ideological beef you cant get past. | | | |
| Local elections? on 10:38 - May 5 with 1088 views | Darth_Koont |
| Local elections? on 10:36 - May 5 by ZXBlue |
Why dont you address the points made? Its a complete false equivalence and you know it. You just have an ideological beef you cant get past. |
I have. I don’t trust Starmer because he’s a proven liar. | |
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| Local elections? on 10:39 - May 5 with 1081 views | Mookamoo |
| Local elections? on 08:21 - May 5 by blueasfook |
I'll be voting Labour in the local election.
And probably Labour at the next GE. Now that they're a viable party again |
Viable but boring. I'll happily settle for that at the moment. |  | | |
| Local elections? on 10:42 - May 5 with 1079 views | Darth_Koont |
| Local elections? on 10:36 - May 5 by giant_stow |
Not up for our usual ding dong, but just to say that in my book there's nothing wrong with being short-sighted right now. We have an urgent need to be in fact. |
There’s an urgent need to stop giving credence to awful politicians (and the political pundits that excuse them). This is why we are where we are. | |
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| Local elections? on 10:47 - May 5 with 1068 views | Ryorry |
| Local elections? on 10:42 - May 5 by Darth_Koont |
There’s an urgent need to stop giving credence to awful politicians (and the political pundits that excuse them). This is why we are where we are. |
 Yeah, cos Starmer is as bad in your book as Johnson. Which is as short-sighted a view as I've ever seen on this forum in 23+ years. | |
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| Local elections? on 10:50 - May 5 with 1055 views | Darth_Koont |
| Local elections? on 10:47 - May 5 by Ryorry |
Yeah, cos Starmer is as bad in your book as Johnson. Which is as short-sighted a view as I've ever seen on this forum in 23+ years. |
The difference is you don’t care if Starmer lies because it’s only to Labour members and over progressive policies.
But that type of dishonest, opportunistic politicking is the same as Johnson’s. | |
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| Local elections? on 11:26 - May 5 with 1010 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Local elections? on 10:38 - May 5 by Darth_Koont |
I have. I don’t trust Starmer because he’s a proven liar. |
I hope you called JC out when he lied about being pro-remain. | | | |
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