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Channel 4 England coverage - Woke watch? 06:59 - Jun 8 with 5369 viewsitfc_bucks

Daily Heil is describing last night's coverage as being too "woke".

Obviously this passed me by - what about it was "woke"?
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This whole on 14:02 - Jun 8 with 1091 viewsSTYG

This whole on 10:49 - Jun 8 by J2BLUE

Which of them didn't have the credentials to do the job?

Overall I think punditry suddenly becoming much more diverse has been a massive positive for football. It's much more interesting now. It badly needed a freshen up from the old days.

Now we actually get pundits with a bit of personality.


The best bit about the people complaining about 'woke' is the hypocrisy.

Every single companies main objective is to make money. In the case of TV it's viewing figures. Football has the white, middle aged bloke locked in. So anything they can do to get everyone else watching is a move they'll make. Simple as that.

But the same gammon have absolutely no problem when Melanie Sykes cleavage is used to maximise the amount of people interested in their beer. Works both ways.

Advertising, representation, whatever. It would be great to have it balanced but ultimately most companies do whatever is best for their bottom line.

On this occasion I wasn't massively impressed with the pundits, especially Owen, but that seems to be the case on most channels now.
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Channel 4 England coverage - Woke watch? on 14:33 - Jun 8 with 1063 viewsVaughan8

Does anyone really sit there and watch these pundits talk rubbish before the game and their "analysis" afterwards? Just switch it off/mute it. It is much better haha

Also, if they want to try new people then fine (Like Nobbs and the presenter) but then why have Michael Owen (especially) and Joe Cole?

Surely it wasn't worse than the BT champions league line up for Ferdinand, Hargreaves and Scholes? haha
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Channel 4 England coverage - Woke watch? on 14:37 - Jun 8 with 1043 viewsJ2BLUE

Channel 4 England coverage - Woke watch? on 14:33 - Jun 8 by Vaughan8

Does anyone really sit there and watch these pundits talk rubbish before the game and their "analysis" afterwards? Just switch it off/mute it. It is much better haha

Also, if they want to try new people then fine (Like Nobbs and the presenter) but then why have Michael Owen (especially) and Joe Cole?

Surely it wasn't worse than the BT champions league line up for Ferdinand, Hargreaves and Scholes? haha


Joe Cole is awful. Like a parody character of a pundit.

Truly impaired.
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Channel 4 England coverage - Woke watch? on 15:54 - Jun 8 with 992 viewsBlueBadger

Channel 4 England coverage - Woke watch? on 10:10 - Jun 8 by itfc_bucks

While this is all good and true, what about it was woke?

I'm genuinely lost on this one...


A woman was involved. A WOMAN.

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Channel 4 England coverage - Woke watch? on 15:56 - Jun 8 with 987 viewsunbelievablue

Channel 4 England coverage - Woke watch? on 14:33 - Jun 8 by Vaughan8

Does anyone really sit there and watch these pundits talk rubbish before the game and their "analysis" afterwards? Just switch it off/mute it. It is much better haha

Also, if they want to try new people then fine (Like Nobbs and the presenter) but then why have Michael Owen (especially) and Joe Cole?

Surely it wasn't worse than the BT champions league line up for Ferdinand, Hargreaves and Scholes? haha


I put football on within seconds of kick-off, do something else during HT, and turn it over as soon as the game finishes. TV coverage of footy is dreadful.

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Channel 4 England coverage - Woke watch? on 16:40 - Jun 8 with 951 viewsDarth_Koont

Channel 4 England coverage - Woke watch? on 08:52 - Jun 8 by BanksterDebtSlave

I wonder if we can come up with an adjective meaning anti-woke?


Sleepwalking towards fascism?

It’s certainly not as punchy but it’s nevertheless where the anti-woke are heading.

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Channel 4 England coverage - Woke watch? on 19:26 - Jun 8 with 875 viewsRyorry

Channel 4 England coverage - Woke watch? on 14:33 - Jun 8 by Vaughan8

Does anyone really sit there and watch these pundits talk rubbish before the game and their "analysis" afterwards? Just switch it off/mute it. It is much better haha

Also, if they want to try new people then fine (Like Nobbs and the presenter) but then why have Michael Owen (especially) and Joe Cole?

Surely it wasn't worse than the BT champions league line up for Ferdinand, Hargreaves and Scholes? haha


I have radio 5live comm on & the TV sound muted. Quite apart from better comm, it gives you about a 10 secs warning that a goal's coming! as radio's always ahead of TV signal, & I'm usually multitasking with food prep etc whilst half-watching.

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This whole on 19:49 - Jun 8 with 858 viewseireblue

This whole on 07:48 - Jun 8 by Chrisd

Here’s a novel idea, how about employing people that have the best credentials to do the job?


Well that's a stupid idea.

Imaging applying that to all walks of life,

Excuse me sir you seem to be having a heart attack, can I help.
Do you have the best credentials for remediating heart surgery?
No, I am a reasonably competent first responder.
Well sod off and get me the person with the best credentials.

Excuse me I seem to have been robbed of a famous antiquity can you......hang on..where is your mustache,.....OMG you're not Hercule Poirot...you're just a normal detective....

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How did people get to have the best credentials, when only people with the best credentials are employed?
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Channel 4 England coverage - Woke watch? on 20:02 - Jun 8 with 846 viewsjeera

Channel 4 England coverage - Woke watch? on 08:52 - Jun 8 by BanksterDebtSlave

I wonder if we can come up with an adjective meaning anti-woke?


Bigoted?

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Channel 4 England coverage - Woke watch? on 21:43 - Jun 8 with 810 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

Channel 4 England coverage - Woke watch? on 09:10 - Jun 8 by MattinLondon

Being honest, when I saw the pundits I nearly switched off in disgust…who wants to see Michael Owen on anything.


He just oozes personality…

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Channel 4 England coverage - Woke watch? on 22:21 - Jun 8 with 795 viewsTractorWood

Channel 4 England coverage - Woke watch? on 13:27 - Jun 8 by unbelievablue

Interestingly Munich is fewer than 100 miles from the Alps. It's properly distinct in its culture from most of the rest of Germany.


German and Austrian mountains are interesting places. Very different and generally very hospitable. Spent lots of my youth skiing and loitering around Austrian and Swiss bars.

Wengen and the Bernese Oberland are a specifically great spot but God knows how much a beer is now. I learnt standard German so when I went to the hills and everyone spoke Schweizerdeutsch (Swiss German) it was a bit of a shock to the system. Normal German TV has been known to subtitle Swiss German.
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I know that was then, but it could be again..
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Channel 4 England coverage - Woke watch? on 22:43 - Jun 8 with 769 viewsronnyd

Channel 4 England coverage - Woke watch? on 12:25 - Jun 8 by timothyeo

Yeah, punditry was awful but that's more often the case than not.


I time it to get the kick off, turnoff/over during half time. back again for the second half. Turn over at final whistle. Don't ever listen to the punditry waffle, it's just hot air.
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