| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back 19:13 - Jun 17 with 8882 views | gtsb1966 |
Keep reading in the news of 1 in 4 cutting back on food, not using the car as much and not having takeaways or nights out. Anyone on here cutting back on anything. The really worrying thing is that if it's hard now imagine what the winter is going to bring. I'm definitely being more energy efficient. Took so much for granted in the past. |  | | |  |
| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 08:03 - Jun 18 with 2027 views | chicoazul |
So from reading this thread is it fair to say no, nobody here is really cutting back? Plenty of people have said they aren’t doing stuff they might otherwise have done due to financial concerns but that’s not the same thing. |  |
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| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 08:32 - Jun 18 with 1997 views | BloomBlue |
I wont be buying the new shirt, £50 Eat, heat or new Town shirt?
Trouble is people will buy things like the shirt as they have money available because its summer and heating is turned off rather than save the money for the winter.
I dont blame people for doing that but will those same people moan about not enough money to eat and heat when its winter? I believe you have to take your own responsibility |  | | |
| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 08:51 - Jun 18 with 1985 views | Churchman |
A few years ago the U.K. was only one of eight countries in the world that spent less than 10% on food, the US being the lowest. I think that is no longer the case (it’s about 10%), but the basic rule applies in that the lower the income, the higher the percentage. This is quite interesting:
https://ahdb.org.uk/news/consumer-insight-why-uk-consumers-spend-8-of-their-mone
Me and the misses spend on average 11% of monthly household income on food, cleaning materials/domestic stuff, so I guess fall slightly under the average for food alone, especially as we regularly enjoy healthy liquid grape juice - Sauv Blanc, Pinot, Chenin, Merlot etc. i consider it part of our five a day, so important!
So f us, food cost isn’t a really factor. However, if you are on state pension or earn a low income, different story, especially when added soaring transport costs, light and heat.
Still, as the lords and masters said, people can always get a better job or do addition work. Nothing to complain about. Tools. |  | | |
| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 10:03 - Jun 18 with 1954 views | OldFart71 |
Being a Baby Boomer born in 1950 and being brought up by my Grandparents in my younger years everything was make do and mend. Veg and salad was grown and even meat was things like pigeons, rabbits etc that Grandad shot. Some not all, clothes were cast offs from others and jumble sales where you could buy things for an old penny or two. 240 old pence to the pound. It was an outside toilet down the yard next to the coal shed and it consisted of a wooden bench with a hole in it and a bucket beneath. Until Izal came along toilet paper was newspaper torn into squares and hung on a six inch nail via a piece of binder string. A bath was a tin one. Placed in front of a coal fire and filled by boiling a kettle which would be added to the cold water to warm it up. Fruit was out of a tin. Peaches,pears and prunes. When I had prunes with evaporated milk I had a little bowl where you could put the stones on the rim with Tinker, Taylor,Soldier , Sailor etc written also on the rim. Coffee was Camp which wasn't coffee it was actually chicory, but I loved it made with milk. With regards to the current situation I have been through it a few times before although petrol wasn't so much a problem as dad didn't have a car until the 60's and Grandad never had one at all. Now having retired I am lucky as I have a Company pension alongside the State Pension. But I'm sure there are many that are working or of pensionable age who are really struggling. |  | | |
| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 10:12 - Jun 18 with 1947 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 03:01 - Jun 18 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Yes - I’m only eating out 4 times a week now. |
Pah, it’s far too much effort to go out. Plus the butler and housekeeper would get bored with nothing to do. |  |
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| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 10:22 - Jun 18 with 1927 views | J2BLUE |
| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 03:01 - Jun 18 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Yes - I’m only eating out 4 times a week now. |
Will save a fortune when she leaves you. |  |
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| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 10:30 - Jun 18 with 1920 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 08:03 - Jun 18 by chicoazul |
So from reading this thread is it fair to say no, nobody here is really cutting back? Plenty of people have said they aren’t doing stuff they might otherwise have done due to financial concerns but that’s not the same thing. |
It doesn’t sound like many are out of necessity, yet a few people are getting twitchy. Or if not too twitch yet, people are re-evaluating. But yes, none of this is really having to cut back. It suggests to me that few of us in here have to budget strictly, lucky us (or maybe that’s not the case). I expect that’ll get worse with the next massive energy cost hike in October(?) and when usage goes up over next winter.
Of course people could also be struggling and not wish to say anything. | |
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| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 11:42 - Jun 18 with 1854 views | chicoazul |
| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 10:03 - Jun 18 by OldFart71 |
Being a Baby Boomer born in 1950 and being brought up by my Grandparents in my younger years everything was make do and mend. Veg and salad was grown and even meat was things like pigeons, rabbits etc that Grandad shot. Some not all, clothes were cast offs from others and jumble sales where you could buy things for an old penny or two. 240 old pence to the pound. It was an outside toilet down the yard next to the coal shed and it consisted of a wooden bench with a hole in it and a bucket beneath. Until Izal came along toilet paper was newspaper torn into squares and hung on a six inch nail via a piece of binder string. A bath was a tin one. Placed in front of a coal fire and filled by boiling a kettle which would be added to the cold water to warm it up. Fruit was out of a tin. Peaches,pears and prunes. When I had prunes with evaporated milk I had a little bowl where you could put the stones on the rim with Tinker, Taylor,Soldier , Sailor etc written also on the rim. Coffee was Camp which wasn't coffee it was actually chicory, but I loved it made with milk. With regards to the current situation I have been through it a few times before although petrol wasn't so much a problem as dad didn't have a car until the 60's and Grandad never had one at all. Now having retired I am lucky as I have a Company pension alongside the State Pension. But I'm sure there are many that are working or of pensionable age who are really struggling. |
Boomers are the luckiest and most self absorbed generation in modern British history. | |
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| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 11:45 - Jun 18 with 1840 views | chicoazul |
| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 10:30 - Jun 18 by Swansea_Blue |
It doesn’t sound like many are out of necessity, yet a few people are getting twitchy. Or if not too twitch yet, people are re-evaluating. But yes, none of this is really having to cut back. It suggests to me that few of us in here have to budget strictly, lucky us (or maybe that’s not the case). I expect that’ll get worse with the next massive energy cost hike in October(?) and when usage goes up over next winter.
Of course people could also be struggling and not wish to say anything. |
All true. I just find these discussions very interesting and revealing. | |
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| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 11:46 - Jun 18 with 1831 views | J2BLUE |
| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 11:42 - Jun 18 by chicoazul |
Boomers are the luckiest and most self absorbed generation in modern British history. |
Bit hostile mate. | |
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| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 12:08 - Jun 18 with 1799 views | Icantbelieveyousaidt |
| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 11:42 - Jun 18 by chicoazul |
Boomers are the luckiest and most self absorbed generation in modern British history. |
I was born in 1950 as well. Please explain why you consider us lucky and self absorbed.
Thank you for your anticipated courteous response. | | | |
| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 12:37 - Jun 18 with 1760 views | chicoazul |
| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 12:08 - Jun 18 by Icantbelieveyousaidt |
I was born in 1950 as well. Please explain why you consider us lucky and self absorbed.
Thank you for your anticipated courteous response. |
You directly benefitted from free education long term careers an ever rising property market an ever rising stock market index linked pensions both personal and OAP and easily accessible GPS & healthcare. Your generation consistently vote against anything that may even slightly compromise these advantages at your expense to help other younger people. The idea that because you had outdoor toilets and tin baths and Camp coffee that you were in some way disadvantaged compared to the experiences of many children today is deranged. [Post edited 18 Jun 2022 12:38]
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| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 12:45 - Jun 18 with 1743 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
I'm lucky that a promotion and a pay rise kicked in end of April, very well timed and has insulated me but I am trying g to be more prudent, not for now but when it really bits, winter months etc. |  |
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| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 12:55 - Jun 18 with 1732 views | mutters |
Not budgeting as yet, but have started to cut back on things that aren't really needed. Food waste has been a big bugbear of mine for years. Watching the amount spent on food going up has made us more determined to create less waste.
I gave up my ST this season due to the travel costs and the fact I live over 200 miles away from PR. Have had that seat for over 30 years (well that's not completely true as the North was redeveloped) so it's going to be missed. Having driven to Suffolk last week and spent over 100 in fuel, that part I won't miss |  |
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| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 13:05 - Jun 18 with 1710 views | Freddies_Ears |
| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 12:37 - Jun 18 by chicoazul |
You directly benefitted from free education long term careers an ever rising property market an ever rising stock market index linked pensions both personal and OAP and easily accessible GPS & healthcare. Your generation consistently vote against anything that may even slightly compromise these advantages at your expense to help other younger people. The idea that because you had outdoor toilets and tin baths and Camp coffee that you were in some way disadvantaged compared to the experiences of many children today is deranged. [Post edited 18 Jun 2022 12:38]
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Of your list, only free education is a wholly valid comment. The stock market has risen overall, but has had several crashes, not least in the 1970s. Long term careers were the exception by the mid-80s. Index-linked pensions were only for public servants, and that number reduced hugely post-privatisation.
As other posters have suggested, there is a certain lack of sympathy for younger types, whether or nor justified, because those of my age do remember a childhood of having only one room heated at home, not having carpets, or a car, only going on holiday when wealthier relatives cleared out of their house (lucky they lived by the sea!)... And an adulthood which included deep, horrible negative equity and mortgage rates of 15.4%, which I escaped by getting a money-saving 3-year fix at a bargain 14.75%.
Life is so much easier now for me, for sure. But I still find it hard to justify a new car, a coffee from a high street chain, would never swap a phone until the old one is worn out, eat out rarely, spend very little on clothes (20 year-old t shirts are fine, surely??).. because, for so many years, I didn't even have the option.
My route out of the poverty trap, as some would call it, involved taking full advantage of the freedom to love, work and study in the EU, giving me a career that was a load of fun, ridiculously hard work, but required freedom of movement and a reasonable level of multilingualism.
I am both frustrated by and proud of the fact that I have never been on the winning side in any FPTP vote. | | | |
| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 13:24 - Jun 18 with 1691 views | Icantbelieveyousaidt |
| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 12:37 - Jun 18 by chicoazul |
You directly benefitted from free education long term careers an ever rising property market an ever rising stock market index linked pensions both personal and OAP and easily accessible GPS & healthcare. Your generation consistently vote against anything that may even slightly compromise these advantages at your expense to help other younger people. The idea that because you had outdoor toilets and tin baths and Camp coffee that you were in some way disadvantaged compared to the experiences of many children today is deranged. [Post edited 18 Jun 2022 12:38]
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I did ask for a courteous reply and all I get is a poster saying my ideas are deranged when I have not even posted any of my ideas yet!!
I do not own my own house, worked for 49 years, was made redundant twice, am in my 55th consecutive year of paying income tax and am finding my pension top up (savings) being eroded by the day.
Your political views (some of which I might share ), does not give you carte blanche the right to be rude, impolite or/and verbally aggressive.
Indeed may I suggest that views put as you put them, whether right or wrong, put off the very people that you would like to convert.
To summarise then - anyone who votes differently to your way of thinking is deranged!
I am off now as will never be a keyboard warrior, I find it rather tiring and irksome; plus my son is buying me a pint at The Woolpack at 2pm. Come and join us and call my ideas deranged face to face!!!
Enjoy the rest of your week end - I hope to..... | | | |
| I went out for dinner last week..... on 13:37 - Jun 18 with 1673 views | Bloots |
....and decided to not have the wine paring, but chose my own bottle instead.
Does that count? |  |
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| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 14:16 - Jun 18 with 1644 views | Churchman |
| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 10:03 - Jun 18 by OldFart71 |
Being a Baby Boomer born in 1950 and being brought up by my Grandparents in my younger years everything was make do and mend. Veg and salad was grown and even meat was things like pigeons, rabbits etc that Grandad shot. Some not all, clothes were cast offs from others and jumble sales where you could buy things for an old penny or two. 240 old pence to the pound. It was an outside toilet down the yard next to the coal shed and it consisted of a wooden bench with a hole in it and a bucket beneath. Until Izal came along toilet paper was newspaper torn into squares and hung on a six inch nail via a piece of binder string. A bath was a tin one. Placed in front of a coal fire and filled by boiling a kettle which would be added to the cold water to warm it up. Fruit was out of a tin. Peaches,pears and prunes. When I had prunes with evaporated milk I had a little bowl where you could put the stones on the rim with Tinker, Taylor,Soldier , Sailor etc written also on the rim. Coffee was Camp which wasn't coffee it was actually chicory, but I loved it made with milk. With regards to the current situation I have been through it a few times before although petrol wasn't so much a problem as dad didn't have a car until the 60's and Grandad never had one at all. Now having retired I am lucky as I have a Company pension alongside the State Pension. But I'm sure there are many that are working or of pensionable age who are really struggling. |
Funnily enough, I still much prefer tinned pears and peaches to the fresh versions. I really liked evaporated milk too. Prunes were tolerable but camp coffee was foul. Ovaltine for me.
I am younger than you and grew up in the 60s/70s and was lucky that my dad had a good job and a car. You could still tell where you were in the week/month by the food and there was no waste. Every bit of connecting tissue off the leg of lamb on a Sunday was eaten over the following days. Gross. Veg cooked to death, steam puddings, stew, tinned mince. Spaghetti from a tin.
Chicken was expensive so we never had that. Beef sometimes but the Sunday meat was usually New Zealand lamb. Beans on toast, tomatoes on toast, mushrooms on toast - common teas which I liked and do to this day.
We had rabbit only on odd occasions. My mum who later became a full on vegetarian was revolted by it. Liver, kidneys - I was revolted by that and still am. Fish was basically sardines on toast or the treat of the week, fish and chips from the chip shop.
Central heating rolled in when we moved when I was 12. The new house even had a phone with a ‘part line’. Before that it was coal fire, spindles and soot, coalman, egg man, milk man, rugs on the floorboards, indoor loo, with Izal. There were far more things to buy than there ever had been, but not much by today’s standards.
Teachers and friends’ dads had usually been in the war and most didn’t like talking about it. My father in law’s view was that it was off limits because of what he experienced and the whole point was to bring the next generation up in a better world.
School was free until I was eleven and after that I was paid for - the penalty for being a lazy, distracted easily son of a b. In those days, kids were expected to be outside and were never ‘supervised’. We’d do stuff, make stuff, doss about. 3 day week, power cuts, sugar shortage, bread shortage, petrol shortage. As kids, the more chaos the better. Black and white tv and 3 channels? Heck, Match of the Week with Gerry Harrison and MOTD with 2 games - That’d do me.
School from 11 on was disciplined and hard. I hated it but did learn and we all knew the rules and the retribution if we got caught wrongdoing.
As an adult, if I wanted something, I had to pay for it. Find a room to live in? Up to me. Furniture? Second hand or donated. First car, up to me. First flat bought - sell the car. My parents never gave me a penny piece and unlike say my mate’s son, who is aghast that his parents won’t buy him a house, I never expected them to. It was my life. Nobody owed me anything and visa versa - bar loans.
Was I lucky to be born in that generation? I think so. But when I looked at say my mum’s family in Yarmouth, nobody would describe them as lucky and their lot was better than millions of others.
The world is very different. Expectations have changed. There is much that is better than it was when I was kid and plenty that’s worse. It’s just different.
That’s my musings for the day. [Post edited 18 Jun 2022 14:17]
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| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 14:31 - Jun 18 with 1611 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 14:16 - Jun 18 by Churchman |
Funnily enough, I still much prefer tinned pears and peaches to the fresh versions. I really liked evaporated milk too. Prunes were tolerable but camp coffee was foul. Ovaltine for me.
I am younger than you and grew up in the 60s/70s and was lucky that my dad had a good job and a car. You could still tell where you were in the week/month by the food and there was no waste. Every bit of connecting tissue off the leg of lamb on a Sunday was eaten over the following days. Gross. Veg cooked to death, steam puddings, stew, tinned mince. Spaghetti from a tin.
Chicken was expensive so we never had that. Beef sometimes but the Sunday meat was usually New Zealand lamb. Beans on toast, tomatoes on toast, mushrooms on toast - common teas which I liked and do to this day.
We had rabbit only on odd occasions. My mum who later became a full on vegetarian was revolted by it. Liver, kidneys - I was revolted by that and still am. Fish was basically sardines on toast or the treat of the week, fish and chips from the chip shop.
Central heating rolled in when we moved when I was 12. The new house even had a phone with a ‘part line’. Before that it was coal fire, spindles and soot, coalman, egg man, milk man, rugs on the floorboards, indoor loo, with Izal. There were far more things to buy than there ever had been, but not much by today’s standards.
Teachers and friends’ dads had usually been in the war and most didn’t like talking about it. My father in law’s view was that it was off limits because of what he experienced and the whole point was to bring the next generation up in a better world.
School was free until I was eleven and after that I was paid for - the penalty for being a lazy, distracted easily son of a b. In those days, kids were expected to be outside and were never ‘supervised’. We’d do stuff, make stuff, doss about. 3 day week, power cuts, sugar shortage, bread shortage, petrol shortage. As kids, the more chaos the better. Black and white tv and 3 channels? Heck, Match of the Week with Gerry Harrison and MOTD with 2 games - That’d do me.
School from 11 on was disciplined and hard. I hated it but did learn and we all knew the rules and the retribution if we got caught wrongdoing.
As an adult, if I wanted something, I had to pay for it. Find a room to live in? Up to me. Furniture? Second hand or donated. First car, up to me. First flat bought - sell the car. My parents never gave me a penny piece and unlike say my mate’s son, who is aghast that his parents won’t buy him a house, I never expected them to. It was my life. Nobody owed me anything and visa versa - bar loans.
Was I lucky to be born in that generation? I think so. But when I looked at say my mum’s family in Yarmouth, nobody would describe them as lucky and their lot was better than millions of others.
The world is very different. Expectations have changed. There is much that is better than it was when I was kid and plenty that’s worse. It’s just different.
That’s my musings for the day. [Post edited 18 Jun 2022 14:17]
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Generation X are much worse. Loads'a money, soulless, selfish children of Thatcher (even most of them who claimed to despise her and what she stood for) grown fat on yuppie property acquisitions and a "well if you can't beat them...." attitudes. |  |
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| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 17:13 - Jun 18 with 1509 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 11:45 - Jun 18 by chicoazul |
All true. I just find these discussions very interesting and revealing. |
It probably reveals what things like the politics and brexit discussions also reveal. We're largely (not all of course) a liberal anti-Brexit bunch, with both positions more likely to be found in the higher socioeconomic levels (your ABs and C1s). So compared to some in the country I suspect many of us are quite comfortable.
There's a bunch of boomers as well, and everyone knows they're all loaded and spending our inheritances! | |
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| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 17:21 - Jun 18 with 1491 views | jeera |
| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 08:03 - Jun 18 by chicoazul |
So from reading this thread is it fair to say no, nobody here is really cutting back? Plenty of people have said they aren’t doing stuff they might otherwise have done due to financial concerns but that’s not the same thing. |
No one who has posted on this thread so far.
That's not remotely indicative of anything. |  |
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| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 17:25 - Jun 18 with 1468 views | J2BLUE |
| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 17:21 - Jun 18 by jeera |
No one who has posted on this thread so far.
That's not remotely indicative of anything. |
Surely not using your disposable income as you normally would is the definition of cutting back? | |
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| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 17:52 - Jun 18 with 1431 views | jeera |
| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 17:25 - Jun 18 by J2BLUE |
Surely not using your disposable income as you normally would is the definition of cutting back? |
Sure, but that's not what Chico was saying and if he means there's been no sign of serious hardship on this thread (so far) then he probably has a point.
If I was living on bread and water alone I wouldn't be posting it, which is what I meant really. Not everyone wants to talk so openly about their situation especially if things aren't going so well.
Cutting back on holidays and subscriptions is certainly sensible though.
I did look at my fans the past two nights and think 'that's gonna cost me' but that didn't stop me using them for hours!
There have been other times in life I'd have maybe just coped without them and am sure that's the current situation for many people.
I was reliant on oil for the boiler at one place I had and that used to scare the fecking life out of me when the tank got low! | |
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| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 17:54 - Jun 18 with 1421 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
It’s all relative really to peoples individual situations. What I will say though is in previous generations, during harder times people were still saving more money in terms of percentage of earnings, this recession could look different. I’d also love to know the median cost of a house compared to the average total income in the 70s/80s/90s compared to today.
The last decade it’s been so easy for investors to borrow money at low rates, a shift is coming. All these heavily funded tech start ups that pay ridiculous wages never even made any money but no one cared because it was just “growth” and money was so cheap to borrow. Next five years I think companies are going to be in a profit mindset. The scary thing (at least in the US) is record inflation and COL crisis but we still have record low unemployment. If that starts to change then look out.
The housing crash is coming. |  | | |
| Economic crisis....anyone cutting back on 21:15 - Jun 18 with 1351 views | easynote |
Cancelled all my newspapers with delivery costs saved quite a bit each month don’t miss them I can catch up on the internet | | | |
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