| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel 10:08 - Sep 7 with 2087 views | OsborneOneNil |
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| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 10:11 - Sep 7 with 2053 views | Keno |
well if they think they can poach McK they can just feck right off |  |
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| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 10:11 - Sep 7 with 2057 views | Big_Jase |
They have had a very indifferent start to the season and the 2nd half of last season was very patchy as well. Seems an odd one though after doing the best part of a £250m rebuild over summer and presumably with players that TT wanted. |  |
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| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 10:14 - Sep 7 with 2022 views | Freddies_Ears |
It takes a lot to shock me in football. The bookies will be happy with so many lumping on Rodgers to be the first... |  | | |
| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 10:15 - Sep 7 with 2010 views | giant_stow |
All his shouting, arguing and histrionics on the touchline.... maybe they could see the pressure was getting to him and lost faith? |  |
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| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 10:17 - Sep 7 with 1970 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 10:11 - Sep 7 by Big_Jase |
They have had a very indifferent start to the season and the 2nd half of last season was very patchy as well. Seems an odd one though after doing the best part of a £250m rebuild over summer and presumably with players that TT wanted. |
TT's say in what players he got would be very limited at Chelsea |  | | |
| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 10:24 - Sep 7 with 1890 views | davblue |
im not massively surprised, new owners not their man. |  | | |
| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 10:28 - Sep 7 with 1858 views | Big_Jase |
| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 10:17 - Sep 7 by ElderGrizzly |
TT's say in what players he got would be very limited at Chelsea |
Early reports in the summer said he had a very big role in recruitment, but if that changed then fair play. I would have thought someone like Aubemeyang is very much a TT signing, having worked with him at Dortmund etc.
Either way, seems to be a very odd start to life under the new owners. | |
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| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 10:33 - Sep 7 with 1809 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 10:28 - Sep 7 by Big_Jase |
Early reports in the summer said he had a very big role in recruitment, but if that changed then fair play. I would have thought someone like Aubemeyang is very much a TT signing, having worked with him at Dortmund etc.
Either way, seems to be a very odd start to life under the new owners. |
He seems to be 'given' players. He did turn down Ronaldo, so has some say but their model has always been about continuity after a manager leaves
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| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 10:38 - Sep 7 with 1766 views | itfcsuth |
Seems a strange one so early, a patchy start to the season but have recruited what Tuchel wanted, and only given a really short number of games to work with them.
The crazy world of football though.
Graham Potter would be a really astute appointment for them. |  | | |
| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 10:40 - Sep 7 with 1739 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 10:33 - Sep 7 by ElderGrizzly |
He seems to be 'given' players. He did turn down Ronaldo, so has some say but their model has always been about continuity after a manager leaves
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Did you completely miss the bit where Abramovich was forced to sell the club, new owners took over and most of the old football hierarchy (Bruce Buck, Granovskaia) left the club?
By all reports Tuchel has had a strong hand in their recruitment which your links acknowledge - if he didn’t and the owners had wanted Ronaldo when they were offered him they’d have signed him |  |
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| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 10:52 - Sep 7 with 1662 views | OsborneOneNil |
| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 10:14 - Sep 7 by Freddies_Ears |
It takes a lot to shock me in football. The bookies will be happy with so many lumping on Rodgers to be the first... |
He was 7/1 Sunday night.
Rodgers was 1/7! | | | |
| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 10:58 - Sep 7 with 1628 views | rickw |
| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 10:24 - Sep 7 by davblue |
im not massively surprised, new owners not their man. |
I think this is a lot to do with it, all very strange though.
Their biggest issue is their defence this season though - only 1 clean sheet.
Some strange transfers over the summer though - loaning out £100m Lukaku and paying for Aubameyang.
Signing Cucarella for big money and releasing Alonso
Fofana seems well over-priced
Koulibaly should be an excellent signing and Sterling is proven.
Also strange why Kovacic hasn't been playing much (unless he was injured) I thought he was their best midfielder last season...
I read Potter is expected to replace him soon [Post edited 7 Sep 2022 10:59]
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| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 11:00 - Sep 7 with 1598 views | Vic |
Wow. Just Wow! |  |
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| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 11:07 - Sep 7 with 1551 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 10:40 - Sep 7 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Did you completely miss the bit where Abramovich was forced to sell the club, new owners took over and most of the old football hierarchy (Bruce Buck, Granovskaia) left the club?
By all reports Tuchel has had a strong hand in their recruitment which your links acknowledge - if he didn’t and the owners had wanted Ronaldo when they were offered him they’d have signed him |
I said limited, which it recognises too.
Not that he has no input. | | | |
| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 11:26 - Sep 7 with 1429 views | OsborneOneNil |
| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 10:58 - Sep 7 by rickw |
I think this is a lot to do with it, all very strange though.
Their biggest issue is their defence this season though - only 1 clean sheet.
Some strange transfers over the summer though - loaning out £100m Lukaku and paying for Aubameyang.
Signing Cucarella for big money and releasing Alonso
Fofana seems well over-priced
Koulibaly should be an excellent signing and Sterling is proven.
Also strange why Kovacic hasn't been playing much (unless he was injured) I thought he was their best midfielder last season...
I read Potter is expected to replace him soon [Post edited 7 Sep 2022 10:59]
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Be great to see Potter given an opportunity. | | | |
| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 11:26 - Sep 7 with 1426 views | King_of_Portman_Rd |
| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 10:17 - Sep 7 by ElderGrizzly |
TT's say in what players he got would be very limited at Chelsea |
Still £250m+ On players with no time to actually work with some of them..
I would expect that Aubameyang joined because of Tuchel, perhaps he was a factor in some of the others as well.
Very strange decision as his record is very good wherever he has gone and will no doubt still go on to have a successful managerial career.
Hope Chelsea fall off a cliff now, never been particularly keen on them |  | | |
| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 12:05 - Sep 7 with 1284 views | BloomBlue |
New owners same problem, say they support the manager but as soon as a good excuse appears they sack him for their own preferred manager.
Would think Graham Potter has a good chance of getting it |  | | |
| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 12:10 - Sep 7 with 1260 views | BondiBlue |
Amateur owners. Buy loads of new players and expect it to work straight away. | |
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| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 12:22 - Sep 7 with 1217 views | stonojnr |
| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 12:10 - Sep 7 by BondiBlue |
Amateur owners. Buy loads of new players and expect it to work straight away. |
you mean he should have been spending the next couple of months talking about gelling... | | | |
| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 14:56 - Sep 7 with 980 views | ringwoodblue |
Very surprised Tuchel has gone so early in the season.
Potter should stay at Brighton as he’s doing a fantastic job there and they could easily finish above Chelsea this season. With big clubs come big expectations, no one expects Brighton to challenge for a European place.
I see Potter as a possible future England manager so he should avoid the poison chalice that is Chelsea FC. |  |
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| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 15:08 - Sep 7 with 929 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 11:26 - Sep 7 by King_of_Portman_Rd |
Still £250m+ On players with no time to actually work with some of them..
I would expect that Aubameyang joined because of Tuchel, perhaps he was a factor in some of the others as well.
Very strange decision as his record is very good wherever he has gone and will no doubt still go on to have a successful managerial career.
Hope Chelsea fall off a cliff now, never been particularly keen on them |
Guardian confirming transfers being handed to him at the heart of his issues:
"Chelsea have spent a record £266m in one window to bring in Wesley Fofana, Marc Cucurella, Raheem Sterling, Kalidou Koulibaly, Carney Chukwuemeka and Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang among others. That increased the pressure on Tuchel but not all were his signings and there were other instances of the ownership attempting to foist players on him". | | | |
| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 15:09 - Sep 7 with 925 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 14:56 - Sep 7 by ringwoodblue |
Very surprised Tuchel has gone so early in the season.
Potter should stay at Brighton as he’s doing a fantastic job there and they could easily finish above Chelsea this season. With big clubs come big expectations, no one expects Brighton to challenge for a European place.
I see Potter as a possible future England manager so he should avoid the poison chalice that is Chelsea FC. |
Agree, Potter should steer clear unless he thinks Brighton have reached a ceiling with his best players being sold each season.
Brighton get £16m if anyone wants to take him
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/sep/07/chelsea-sack-thomas-tuchel-as-m [Post edited 7 Sep 2022 15:09]
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| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 16:10 - Sep 7 with 797 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 15:08 - Sep 7 by ElderGrizzly |
Guardian confirming transfers being handed to him at the heart of his issues:
"Chelsea have spent a record £266m in one window to bring in Wesley Fofana, Marc Cucurella, Raheem Sterling, Kalidou Koulibaly, Carney Chukwuemeka and Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang among others. That increased the pressure on Tuchel but not all were his signings and there were other instances of the ownership attempting to foist players on him". |
The Athletic are reporting the complete opposite, that Tuchel had been leaned on heavily to provide input into footballing matters in the absence of Buck/Granovskaia/Cech and that key signings like Sterling and Aubameyang were very much driven by him. Also widely reported that other players Chelsea had initially pursued such as Kounde and Ronaldo were abandoned at his behest (which is what I assume the ‘attempting to foist players’ comment is in relation to - a rather odd way of spinning that his input and wishes were taken onboard)
I guess it’s probably easier for some journalists to just parrot the notion that Chelsea foist players on the manager though and know it’ll be lapped up, rather than accurately portray things though | |
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| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 16:14 - Sep 7 with 791 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Chelsea bin Tommy Tuchel on 14:56 - Sep 7 by ringwoodblue |
Very surprised Tuchel has gone so early in the season.
Potter should stay at Brighton as he’s doing a fantastic job there and they could easily finish above Chelsea this season. With big clubs come big expectations, no one expects Brighton to challenge for a European place.
I see Potter as a possible future England manager so he should avoid the poison chalice that is Chelsea FC. |
Next managerial gig for the last 5 permanent managers to hold the poisoned chalice at Chelsea:
Everton, Juventus, Inter Milan, Manchester United, Napoli
All considerably bigger jobs than Brighton, the only one that is debatable would be Everton and that was Lampard who had less credit in the bank than Potter going in. If he is indeed offered it then he should clearly take it - succeed and he’ll be in the upper echelon of managers, and failing will just see him back at the level he is now at a minimum
I would suggest Chelsea is a far bigger job than England too | |
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