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Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs 10:12 - Oct 21 with 4104 viewsStokieBlue

It seems that the narrative today from Boris backing MPs is that if the party elects anyone other than Boris then there needs to be a GE as they have no mandate.

This is clearly bullying and scare tactics to try and force MPs who fear for their seat in a GE to back Boris.

Why weren't they saying the same when Truss was elected leader?

It's clear hypocrisy and surely transparent to the electorate in general.

SB
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Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:15 - Oct 21 with 2979 viewsZx1988

I wonder, if push came to shove, whether they'd actually put their money where their mouth is?

IF there exists the 100 required MPs willing to nominate Johnson, then there would be enough of them to be able to vote against the Government and force a General Election should any of the opposition parties table a vote of no confidence.

Under normal circumstances, I could quite imagine this being nothing but puff and bluster, but at the moment I'd say all bets are off.

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Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:16 - Oct 21 with 2966 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

“ surely transparent to the electorate in general. ”

Giving a bit too much credit there I think.
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Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:17 - Oct 21 with 2960 viewsthebooks

Also interesting to see the party right gathering round him. I thought they'd be so fractured/wounded by getting rid of him, he wouldn't have a chance. If he's on the ballot, he probably wins.

I think we're well past the point where anyone expects anything beyond naked self-interest from this lot.
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Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:18 - Oct 21 with 2954 viewsRadlett_blue

Yes, with the opinion polls showing an unprecedented Labour lead, it would be amazing if any Tory MP wanted a General Election right now. However, I did watch the appalling Christopher Chope MP on TV this morning when he said the following:
"Truss had some very good ideas" referencing her disastrous mini budget.
"Boris Johnson should return"
"We need a general election".

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Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:23 - Oct 21 with 2926 viewsZx1988

Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:18 - Oct 21 by Radlett_blue

Yes, with the opinion polls showing an unprecedented Labour lead, it would be amazing if any Tory MP wanted a General Election right now. However, I did watch the appalling Christopher Chope MP on TV this morning when he said the following:
"Truss had some very good ideas" referencing her disastrous mini budget.
"Boris Johnson should return"
"We need a general election".


Given Chode's constituency and majority (24,617) I imagine that he would feel pretty safe in calling for a General Election, even in the current climate.

It'd only take about 50 Johnson-supporting nutters sat in 'blue-rosette-on-a-donkey' type seats to push the button if they don't get what they want...

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Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:26 - Oct 21 with 2868 viewsRyorry

Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:17 - Oct 21 by thebooks

Also interesting to see the party right gathering round him. I thought they'd be so fractured/wounded by getting rid of him, he wouldn't have a chance. If he's on the ballot, he probably wins.

I think we're well past the point where anyone expects anything beyond naked self-interest from this lot.


We're a laughing stock right around the world (and causing concern too, due to the economic knock-on effects for some countries).

Also heard an interview with a former diplomat saying that 40 years of hard work in carefully building up the UK's rep had gone, overnight.

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Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:26 - Oct 21 with 2862 viewsbournemouthblue

Tories will do anything to maintain power

If they choose Boris, it really is tone deaf. It's not like the public were particularly on his side at the end of his tenure, it's pretty desperate.

I know some Tories love him still but I would imagine the silent majority of the public now are bored of him

Very much a marmite candidate
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Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:30 - Oct 21 with 2811 viewsEastTownBlue

Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:18 - Oct 21 by Radlett_blue

Yes, with the opinion polls showing an unprecedented Labour lead, it would be amazing if any Tory MP wanted a General Election right now. However, I did watch the appalling Christopher Chope MP on TV this morning when he said the following:
"Truss had some very good ideas" referencing her disastrous mini budget.
"Boris Johnson should return"
"We need a general election".


His backers along with Chope are Dorries, Bone, Benton, Jenkyns, Febricant, Caulfield etc. The worst of the lot.

Sadly I think he will get the 100 required and will return as PM now.
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Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:32 - Oct 21 with 2793 viewsPinewoodblue

Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:26 - Oct 21 by bournemouthblue

Tories will do anything to maintain power

If they choose Boris, it really is tone deaf. It's not like the public were particularly on his side at the end of his tenure, it's pretty desperate.

I know some Tories love him still but I would imagine the silent majority of the public now are bored of him

Very much a marmite candidate
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Trouble with the marmite comparison is that is a straight 50/50 split.

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Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:32 - Oct 21 with 2799 viewsStokieBlue

Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:30 - Oct 21 by EastTownBlue

His backers along with Chope are Dorries, Bone, Benton, Jenkyns, Febricant, Caulfield etc. The worst of the lot.

Sadly I think he will get the 100 required and will return as PM now.


The most ridiculous thing is there is a good chance he could be suspended as an MP by the privilege committee for lying to the house.

SB
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Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:33 - Oct 21 with 2786 viewsRadlett_blue

Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:32 - Oct 21 by StokieBlue

The most ridiculous thing is there is a good chance he could be suspended as an MP by the privilege committee for lying to the house.

SB


One of the many reasons why he should not ever again be a candidate for high office.

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Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:40 - Oct 21 with 2764 viewsBlueBadger

Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:18 - Oct 21 by Radlett_blue

Yes, with the opinion polls showing an unprecedented Labour lead, it would be amazing if any Tory MP wanted a General Election right now. However, I did watch the appalling Christopher Chope MP on TV this morning when he said the following:
"Truss had some very good ideas" referencing her disastrous mini budget.
"Boris Johnson should return"
"We need a general election".


For a number of years now, I've been convinced that Chode's first name is actually 'The Odious'.

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Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:40 - Oct 21 with 2752 viewsgiant_stow

It is clearly bullying, but they do have a pont in that he has more of mandate from the electorate than any other option. From Labour's angle, I think this talk is to be welcomed - if he gets in, hopefully there'll be mass defections - maybe enough for a vote of no-confidence even? And if he doesn;t get in Labour can remind them all of what they've been saying about mandates.

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Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:47 - Oct 21 with 2710 viewsjeera

Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:32 - Oct 21 by Pinewoodblue

Trouble with the marmite comparison is that is a straight 50/50 split.


I wouldn't be too surprised if 52% didn't like it.

The weirdos.

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Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:50 - Oct 21 with 2692 viewsGlasgowBlue

In fairness to Mad Nad, she has been saying this since Truss was elected.

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Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:54 - Oct 21 with 2669 viewsStokieBlue

Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:50 - Oct 21 by GlasgowBlue

In fairness to Mad Nad, she has been saying this since Truss was elected.


Indeed she has, the other lot haven't though.

It's a clear decision they have made to push this as the only acceptable option.

SB
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Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:58 - Oct 21 with 2661 viewsElephantintheRoom

Given the inquiry will find he mislead parliament and will have to face deselection or a by election he will lose, the idea of Johnson returning is something of a non-starter And that’s before any inquiry into the bungling of Covid response and misuse of public money

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Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 11:24 - Oct 21 with 2594 viewsEly_Blue

As I’ve seen this morning on twitter from the old Tory that is Ken Clarke “if Boris Johnson is the answer then you really do not understand the question”

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Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 11:42 - Oct 21 with 2521 viewsdavblue

Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:58 - Oct 21 by ElephantintheRoom

Given the inquiry will find he mislead parliament and will have to face deselection or a by election he will lose, the idea of Johnson returning is something of a non-starter And that’s before any inquiry into the bungling of Covid response and misuse of public money


It's the Tory's, they are so inept it wouldn't surprise me.

All bringing Boris back will do is enable the culture he presided over for their own good rather than the countries.
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Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 12:20 - Oct 21 with 2348 viewsbournemouthblue

Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:32 - Oct 21 by Pinewoodblue

Trouble with the marmite comparison is that is a straight 50/50 split.


with Tories perhaps, I doubt it's the same amongst the general public

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Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 12:24 - Oct 21 with 2322 viewsbournemouthblue

Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:58 - Oct 21 by ElephantintheRoom

Given the inquiry will find he mislead parliament and will have to face deselection or a by election he will lose, the idea of Johnson returning is something of a non-starter And that’s before any inquiry into the bungling of Covid response and misuse of public money


I personally think people should be jailed if contracts have been awarded to mate's and relatives of Tory MPs

Of course, that won't happen but it would make some of these shysters think twice about profiteering from a National crisis and a pandemic scenario

Partygate in itself was staggering, the people who don't see a problem with it, really need to have a look at themselves
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Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 12:37 - Oct 21 with 2264 viewsGlasgowBlue

Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:54 - Oct 21 by StokieBlue

Indeed she has, the other lot haven't though.

It's a clear decision they have made to push this as the only acceptable option.

SB


We are going to see Mad Nad waking up in No 10 confronted with Boris in the shower telling her that the last 3 months were all a dream.

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Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 12:52 - Oct 21 with 2215 viewsSteve_M

Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 10:40 - Oct 21 by giant_stow

It is clearly bullying, but they do have a pont in that he has more of mandate from the electorate than any other option. From Labour's angle, I think this talk is to be welcomed - if he gets in, hopefully there'll be mass defections - maybe enough for a vote of no-confidence even? And if he doesn;t get in Labour can remind them all of what they've been saying about mandates.


He doesn't have a mandate from his party given that he lost most of his cabinet and large numbers of MPs wrote letters to get rid of him barely three months ago.

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Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 13:22 - Oct 21 with 2113 viewsgiant_stow

Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 12:52 - Oct 21 by Steve_M

He doesn't have a mandate from his party given that he lost most of his cabinet and large numbers of MPs wrote letters to get rid of him barely three months ago.


Very true.

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Interesting narrative forming from Boris supporting MPs on 13:35 - Oct 21 with 2025 viewsZx1988

Will the nominations be made public knowledge?

I can quite imagine, if the records of who voted for/nominated who are kept secret, a fair number of MPs who otherwise wouldn't, may back Johnson.

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