| Harness out till Feb 09:39 - Nov 25 with 3846 views | Samuelowen88 |
Not as bad as it could have been, but probably need someone in Jan to cover that time. |  |
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| Harness out till Feb on 09:43 - Nov 25 with 2422 views | BseaBlue |
Certainly not ideal at the moment. As much as he can go missing in games, he does have that ability to get a goal from nowhere which we lack elsewhere. |  | | |
| Harness out till Feb on 09:44 - Nov 25 with 2404 views | clive_baker |
That's a huge blow. If we assume mid Feb that's 15 games he's going to miss. 1/3 of a season including Plymouth, Sheffield Wednesday, Peterborough. Wycombe away, Pompey away.
FFS. |  |
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| Harness out till Feb on 09:48 - Nov 25 with 2359 views | FrimleyBlue |
2 meniscus injuries in a few weeks.
Various other injuries.
Those in the know... wasn't TB12 meant to toughen up the legs to minimise these sort of injuries? |  |
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| Harness out till Feb on 09:48 - Nov 25 with 2346 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Harness out till Feb on 09:44 - Nov 25 by clive_baker |
That's a huge blow. If we assume mid Feb that's 15 games he's going to miss. 1/3 of a season including Plymouth, Sheffield Wednesday, Peterborough. Wycombe away, Pompey away.
FFS. |
It does however give Edwards the opportunity to work with Davis on that left side. | |
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| Harness out till Feb on 09:54 - Nov 25 with 2302 views | clive_baker |
| Harness out till Feb on 09:48 - Nov 25 by FrimleyBlue |
It does however give Edwards the opportunity to work with Davis on that left side. |
I appreciate the positivity but the way I see it is we already had that option. This has significantly depleted our attacking options.
Walton
Donacien / Woolfenden / Burgess / Edmundson
Burns / Davis
Morsy / Humphreys
Chaplin / Edwards
Ladapo
That for me is a core 12 that we need to protect at all costs. I see Hladky, Keogh, Leigh, KVY, Jackson as playing supporting roles. Camara and Ahadme need to get themselves up to speed ASAP. Evans, TJJ and Aluko need to get themselves fit too. 2 or 3 to come in Jan I would think. | |
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| Harness out till Feb on 09:56 - Nov 25 with 2285 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Harness out till Feb on 09:48 - Nov 25 by FrimleyBlue |
2 meniscus injuries in a few weeks.
Various other injuries.
Those in the know... wasn't TB12 meant to toughen up the legs to minimise these sort of injuries? |
TB12 is about injury prevention through fitness and recovery. Not much you can do about clashing knees with an opponent at speed. |  |
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| Harness out till Feb on 09:57 - Nov 25 with 2280 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Harness out till Feb on 09:44 - Nov 25 by clive_baker |
That's a huge blow. If we assume mid Feb that's 15 games he's going to miss. 1/3 of a season including Plymouth, Sheffield Wednesday, Peterborough. Wycombe away, Pompey away.
FFS. |
Time for Edwards to step up. Plus Aluko isn't far away from returning.
Unfortunately neither gave the goal threat that Harness poses. Alternatively, neither give the ball away so much.
Either way, it's a big loss for us. Hope Ladapo stays fit or we are screwed. |  |
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| Harness out till Feb on 10:00 - Nov 25 with 2261 views | Darth_Koont |
| Harness out till Feb on 09:48 - Nov 25 by FrimleyBlue |
It does however give Edwards the opportunity to work with Davis on that left side. |
True. Although a different dynamic if partnered with Chaplin as I think Harness’s work rate, physicality and ability to defend from the front made that a very balanced combo.
It could work of course with two attacking midfielders who are both sharp and threatening on the ball. But there are other options like Edwards with Camara or Chaplin with Aluko (shortly).
Be interesting to see what McKenna does. But a major loss – IMO Harness was our most threatening and most consistent performer in that area of the pitch. |  |
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| Harness out till Feb on 10:02 - Nov 25 with 2248 views | Samuelowen88 |
We really need Chaplin to find his early season form again. Would be such a boost.
I guess add to that, Burns to find his form from last season, | |
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| Harness out till Feb on 10:03 - Nov 25 with 2236 views | lurcher |
| Harness out till Feb on 09:48 - Nov 25 by FrimleyBlue |
2 meniscus injuries in a few weeks.
Various other injuries.
Those in the know... wasn't TB12 meant to toughen up the legs to minimise these sort of injuries? |
Most of our injuries have come from challenges. That wasn't the case in the past, players were picking them up without contact. |  | | |
| Harness out till Feb on 10:10 - Nov 25 with 2173 views | HighgateBlue |
| Harness out till Feb on 09:44 - Nov 25 by clive_baker |
That's a huge blow. If we assume mid Feb that's 15 games he's going to miss. 1/3 of a season including Plymouth, Sheffield Wednesday, Peterborough. Wycombe away, Pompey away.
FFS. |
All for a pizza cup games that KMac admits he didn't really want to win... |  | | |
| Harness out till Feb on 10:12 - Nov 25 with 2155 views | jayessess |
| Harness out till Feb on 09:44 - Nov 25 by clive_baker |
That's a huge blow. If we assume mid Feb that's 15 games he's going to miss. 1/3 of a season including Plymouth, Sheffield Wednesday, Peterborough. Wycombe away, Pompey away.
FFS. |
10 weeks from today is February 3rd.
That would be 10 league games, 9 if we win on Sunday. |  |
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| Harness out till Feb on 10:13 - Nov 25 with 2147 views | PhilTWTD |
| Harness out till Feb on 09:44 - Nov 25 by clive_baker |
That's a huge blow. If we assume mid Feb that's 15 games he's going to miss. 1/3 of a season including Plymouth, Sheffield Wednesday, Peterborough. Wycombe away, Pompey away.
FFS. |
Late January, early February he's due back. Eight to 10 weeks. |  | | |
| Harness out till Feb on 10:18 - Nov 25 with 2117 views | jayessess |
We'll probably get a replacement for TJJ in January, but we aren't going to sign anyone to cover Harness when he returns more or less as the window closes. | |
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| Harness out till Feb on 10:21 - Nov 25 with 2100 views | clive_baker |
| Harness out till Feb on 10:12 - Nov 25 by jayessess |
10 weeks from today is February 3rd.
That would be 10 league games, 9 if we win on Sunday. |
Hopefully. Although it's unlikely he's going to be out for 10 weeks and slot straight back into a starting XI I would imagine. Would expect a couple of sub appearances first, not sure if that's factored into the timeline. | |
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| Harness out till Feb on 10:23 - Nov 25 with 2083 views | Steve_M |
| Harness out till Feb on 10:03 - Nov 25 by lurcher |
Most of our injuries have come from challenges. That wasn't the case in the past, players were picking them up without contact. |
And the other persistent problem has been in players breaking down whilst recovering from injuries (McGoldrick multiple times, Bishop more than once, Lankester) which does not seem to be the case now. |  |
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| Harness out till Feb on 10:24 - Nov 25 with 2089 views | HighgateBlue |
| Harness out till Feb on 09:54 - Nov 25 by clive_baker |
I appreciate the positivity but the way I see it is we already had that option. This has significantly depleted our attacking options.
Walton
Donacien / Woolfenden / Burgess / Edmundson
Burns / Davis
Morsy / Humphreys
Chaplin / Edwards
Ladapo
That for me is a core 12 that we need to protect at all costs. I see Hladky, Keogh, Leigh, KVY, Jackson as playing supporting roles. Camara and Ahadme need to get themselves up to speed ASAP. Evans, TJJ and Aluko need to get themselves fit too. 2 or 3 to come in Jan I would think. |
Should any of those 12 play in the FA Cup?
"At all costs" surely includes the cost of not having a great team out in the FA Cup second round, playing against a non-league team. There's a 5 day gap between Portsmouth and Buxton, so I would think that those who played last time out (and who didn't get injured) should be firing on sufficient cylinders to play v Buxton.
The team below looks pretty lightweight, and some of the "12" would have to come off the bench in any event. So I think we possibly start with 2 or 3 of the 12, and then whip them off once we're 2 or 3 nil up...?
Hladky
Agbaje
Keogh
Armin
Leigh
KVY
Camara
Siziba
Chirewa
Jackson
Buabo | | | |
| Harness out till Feb on 10:25 - Nov 25 with 2076 views | portmanking |
| Harness out till Feb on 09:48 - Nov 25 by FrimleyBlue |
2 meniscus injuries in a few weeks.
Various other injuries.
Those in the know... wasn't TB12 meant to toughen up the legs to minimise these sort of injuries? |
One thing is for sure, Bristol City fans weren't overly complimentary about Andy Rolls and his team re. ongoing injury list.
Although we're delighted to have that infrastructure in place, when do questions have to be asked about decision-making from our 'performance' department? |  | | |
| Harness out till Feb on 10:27 - Nov 25 with 2061 views | portmanking |
| Harness out till Feb on 09:44 - Nov 25 by clive_baker |
That's a huge blow. If we assume mid Feb that's 15 games he's going to miss. 1/3 of a season including Plymouth, Sheffield Wednesday, Peterborough. Wycombe away, Pompey away.
FFS. |
Why oh why we didn't pick a weakened side against Pompey to focus on the bread and butter of the league beggars belief. It's a stupid, pointless competition with no bearing on our future, unlike the league. | | | |
| Harness out till Feb on 10:30 - Nov 25 with 2041 views | jayessess |
| Harness out till Feb on 10:25 - Nov 25 by portmanking |
One thing is for sure, Bristol City fans weren't overly complimentary about Andy Rolls and his team re. ongoing injury list.
Although we're delighted to have that infrastructure in place, when do questions have to be asked about decision-making from our 'performance' department? |
What question would you ask our performance department about Harness bumping knees with an opponent in a match? | |
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| Harness out till Feb on 10:36 - Nov 25 with 2018 views | clive_baker |
| Harness out till Feb on 10:24 - Nov 25 by HighgateBlue |
Should any of those 12 play in the FA Cup?
"At all costs" surely includes the cost of not having a great team out in the FA Cup second round, playing against a non-league team. There's a 5 day gap between Portsmouth and Buxton, so I would think that those who played last time out (and who didn't get injured) should be firing on sufficient cylinders to play v Buxton.
The team below looks pretty lightweight, and some of the "12" would have to come off the bench in any event. So I think we possibly start with 2 or 3 of the 12, and then whip them off once we're 2 or 3 nil up...?
Hladky
Agbaje
Keogh
Armin
Leigh
KVY
Camara
Siziba
Chirewa
Jackson
Buabo |
Agree, that's what I would do. I would say perhaps 2 or 3, especially given the opposition. I would love to see a cup run, but given we're at home to Buxton I would like to think we could rotate pretty heavily tomorrow and progress. Maybe something like:
Hladky
Burgess
Keogh
Edmundson
KVY
Leigh
Camara
Humphreys
Jackson
Siziba
Ahadme
Get Humphreys, Burgess & Edmundson off if we're looking comfortable. | |
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| Harness out till Feb on 10:39 - Nov 25 with 2001 views | Chrisd |
Disappointing news, but it’s a squad game and we’ve got a decent one for L1. Time for others to step up to the plate. | |
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| Harness out till Feb on 10:40 - Nov 25 with 1990 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Harness out till Feb on 10:30 - Nov 25 by jayessess |
What question would you ask our performance department about Harness bumping knees with an opponent in a match? |
I'd like to know if Harness had any % of injury going into the game like Ball did v Bracknell.
We also lost ladapo in warm up..
Is our High intense training to intense leaving players vulnerable in matches. | |
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| Harness out till Feb on 10:48 - Nov 25 with 1942 views | Illinoisblue |
| Harness out till Feb on 09:48 - Nov 25 by FrimleyBlue |
2 meniscus injuries in a few weeks.
Various other injuries.
Those in the know... wasn't TB12 meant to toughen up the legs to minimise these sort of injuries? |
Where did you read TB12 was focused on toughening up legs? |  |
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| Harness out till Feb on 10:50 - Nov 25 with 1936 views | jayessess |
| Harness out till Feb on 10:36 - Nov 25 by clive_baker |
Agree, that's what I would do. I would say perhaps 2 or 3, especially given the opposition. I would love to see a cup run, but given we're at home to Buxton I would like to think we could rotate pretty heavily tomorrow and progress. Maybe something like:
Hladky
Burgess
Keogh
Edmundson
KVY
Leigh
Camara
Humphreys
Jackson
Siziba
Ahadme
Get Humphreys, Burgess & Edmundson off if we're looking comfortable. |
I think we'll go pretty strong on Sunday. For the most part we're picking up injuries from accidents rather than excessive workloads. We've been unlucky to collect a couple in cup games, but that's just happenstance. A few extra minutes in cup games isn't statistically very likely to make much difference to your injury record.
For years we've rested players for the cups, it's had negligible impact on our results and negligible impact on our ability to keep players fit and available.
13 days will have passed between Exeter and Fleetwood, so I think we'll want that fixture in the middle to keep momentum and keep everyone sharp. | |
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