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VAR what’s the point 20:10 - Dec 1 with 5038 viewsChondzoresk

That ball was over the line no goal…….unreal.
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VAR what’s the point on 20:13 - Dec 1 with 4212 viewsDubtractor

I thought it looked too close to call tbh - need to see an angle in line with the goal line.

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VAR what’s the point on 20:14 - Dec 1 with 4183 viewsLankHenners

Not sure - could be a situation like when people complain about corners not being in the little quadrant but the 'edge' of the ball will be over it looking down from a bird's eye view.

Ha - just confirmed that's the case on commentary!

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VAR what’s the point on 20:17 - Dec 1 with 4152 viewsChondzoresk

First replay looked out. Well it must have closer than I thought. Still, the Japanese are doing well.
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VAR what’s the point on 20:17 - Dec 1 with 4150 viewsBarcaBlue

VAR what’s the point on 20:13 - Dec 1 by Dubtractor

I thought it looked too close to call tbh - need to see an angle in line with the goal line.


A big deal was made about the balls being microchipped, maybe that came into play but I thought the ball looked out.
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VAR what’s the point on 20:19 - Dec 1 with 4130 viewsLeoMuff

VAR what’s the point on 20:17 - Dec 1 by Chondzoresk

First replay looked out. Well it must have closer than I thought. Still, the Japanese are doing well.


1 view looked out, 2 looked in from the 3 replays I saw, madness

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VAR what’s the point on 20:28 - Dec 1 with 4084 viewsSitfcB

If this was the goal line the goal wouldn’t be given, so it’s not out…

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VAR what’s the point on 21:00 - Dec 1 with 3982 viewsEastTownBlue

Souness is rather angry about this to say the least.
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Souness should STFU... on 21:03 - Dec 1 with 3932 viewsBloots

VAR what’s the point on 21:00 - Dec 1 by EastTownBlue

Souness is rather angry about this to say the least.


....the daft old git.

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VAR what’s the point on 21:07 - Dec 1 with 3875 viewsLankHenners

ITV banging on about not seeing the VAR photos as if it's some conspiracy to make sure Japan get through ffs.

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VAR what’s the point on 21:11 - Dec 1 with 3830 viewsrkc123

VAR what’s the point on 21:07 - Dec 1 by LankHenners

ITV banging on about not seeing the VAR photos as if it's some conspiracy to make sure Japan get through ffs.


What's bizarre is they have a better angle which they showed when they were talking to the ref, which was close to being along the goal line, and that was very close (I would say a couple of mm of the ball may have been still on the line), but they seem to insist on showing the view from an angle which doesn't really tell you anything, and are getting very angry about it. As you said the hint that there's some sort of conspiracy that FIFA want to see Japan through for some reason just makes no sense.
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VAR what’s the point on 21:11 - Dec 1 with 3821 viewsMercian

VAR what’s the point on 20:28 - Dec 1 by SitfcB

If this was the goal line the goal wouldn’t be given, so it’s not out…

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The picture is inconclusive. It looks to me the tiniest fraction of the ball "could" be in play. If there is doubt the attacking side should have the advantage. It put Germany out so I don't mind if it was.
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VAR what’s the point on 21:12 - Dec 1 with 3812 viewsDubtractor

This is the best view I've seen. In play - just!!


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VAR what’s the point on 21:13 - Dec 1 with 3795 viewsMercian

VAR what’s the point on 21:12 - Dec 1 by Dubtractor

This is the best view I've seen. In play - just!!



It's in play.
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VAR what’s the point on 21:14 - Dec 1 with 3789 viewsbadadski

VAR what’s the point on 21:07 - Dec 1 by LankHenners

ITV banging on about not seeing the VAR photos as if it's some conspiracy to make sure Japan get through ffs.


It’s correct decision, same as taking a corner / the ball doesn’t have to be touching the line / you can see a part shadow of ball on the line if you look which means it’s still legally in play. Elementary my dear Watson.
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VAR what’s the point on 21:15 - Dec 1 with 3758 viewsRyorry

VAR what’s the point on 20:19 - Dec 1 by LeoMuff

1 view looked out, 2 looked in from the 3 replays I saw, madness


Watching on +1, got same. 2nd view was from overhead cam, ball was on the line - when the whole of it has to be over to be out.

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VAR what’s the point on 21:30 - Dec 1 with 3662 viewsTheBoyBlue

The ghost of Frank Lampard kept it in.

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Souness should STFU... on 21:31 - Dec 1 with 3661 viewsibbleobble

Souness should STFU... on 21:03 - Dec 1 by Bloots

....the daft old git.


To be fair, not only is he ageing pretty well but he’s got a decent stylist in tow too.
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VAR what’s the point on 21:38 - Dec 1 with 3618 viewsLeoMuff

VAR what’s the point on 21:11 - Dec 1 by Mercian

The picture is inconclusive. It looks to me the tiniest fraction of the ball "could" be in play. If there is doubt the attacking side should have the advantage. It put Germany out so I don't mind if it was.
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Looks in me, the curvature of the ball is still on the line.

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VAR what’s the point on 21:56 - Dec 1 with 3559 viewsGlasgowBlue


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VAR what’s the point on 21:59 - Dec 1 with 3545 viewsDinDjarin

VAR what’s the point on 21:12 - Dec 1 by Dubtractor

This is the best view I've seen. In play - just!!



Looks like the crossbar is on the huh in relation to the lines
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VAR what’s the point on 22:08 - Dec 1 with 3482 viewsMeadowlark

VAR what’s the point on 21:13 - Dec 1 by Mercian

It's in play.
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There is still an angle error in this view. The goal bar does not line up with the touchline.
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VAR what’s the point on 01:48 - Dec 2 with 3199 viewsMercian

I've just watched the highlight on Iplayer and paused it at the exact time he crossed it. I've changed my mind, I think it was out of play.
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VAR what’s the point on 07:06 - Dec 2 with 3039 viewsEly_Blue

VAR what’s the point on 01:48 - Dec 2 by Mercian

I've just watched the highlight on Iplayer and paused it at the exact time he crossed it. I've changed my mind, I think it was out of play.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/frank-lampard-germany-world-cup-28634
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You’ll be changing it back again when you see this


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VAR what’s the point on 07:29 - Dec 2 with 2974 viewsdissboy2

VAR what’s the point on 20:17 - Dec 1 by Chondzoresk

First replay looked out. Well it must have closer than I thought. Still, the Japanese are doing well.


pleased for them, good to see a new team in the 16s
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VAR what’s the point on 09:15 - Dec 2 with 2801 viewsNthQldITFC

VAR what’s the point on 21:14 - Dec 1 by badadski

It’s correct decision, same as taking a corner / the ball doesn’t have to be touching the line / you can see a part shadow of ball on the line if you look which means it’s still legally in play. Elementary my dear Watson.


Whilst I agree with you, Holmes, that the ball is indeed still in play, I would take issue with your assertion that the shadow provides incontrovertible evidence to that effect. For such to be the case, the light source for the shadow would have to be precisely aligned along the goal line, and we do not have that as proven information. Additionally, said light source would need to be at an infinite distance from the ball to ensure parallel projection of the edges of the umbra, if you will, assuming that the light source is a point source to allow for accuracy whether the ball is at pitch level or at any conceivable level above the pitch. I think we may safely discount bending of the light source due to the magnitude of c, although to do so does offend my sense of propriety somewhat.

It was in.

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