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Think we probably need a new start today so I've removed that thread. Not really got time today to spend most of it dealing with PMs relating to threads - just counted and I had 51 yesterday - so it would be appreciated if everyone makes an effort not to stir up arguments. |  | | |  |
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I PMed him last night. Was like 1am and callis was still going on and making horrific accusations.
I decided both publicly and privately to give Phil my support. Must be quite grim running a website we all are lucky to be apart of and having one poster publicly trashing you all day for all the world to see. And seeing as it was late and still going on, I stepped up like the hero I am. #ThankyouRommy |
I also PM'd him - around 00.45 - to give him a nudge re the thread being still open for replies a full 10 mins after he'd said he locked it - thought the hamsters might have gone on strike or something  |  |
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I PMed him last night. Was like 1am and callis was still going on and making horrific accusations.
I decided both publicly and privately to give Phil my support. Must be quite grim running a website we all are lucky to be apart of and having one poster publicly trashing you all day for all the world to see. And seeing as it was late and still going on, I stepped up like the hero I am. #ThankyouRommy |
To be fair to Callis, his motives are sound, his methods let him down but largely through frustrations. Personally I think it would fair for people to reflect more on what his message was rather than the delivery as there was a lot of good, well intentioned genuinely compassionate stuff in what he tried to express.
That said he didn’t really give the admin much choice which is unfortunate |  | | |
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To be fair to Callis, his motives are sound, his methods let him down but largely through frustrations. Personally I think it would fair for people to reflect more on what his message was rather than the delivery as there was a lot of good, well intentioned genuinely compassionate stuff in what he tried to express.
That said he didn’t really give the admin much choice which is unfortunate |
Sorry, but when you're on the end of his ire for no reason whatsoever, and then get horrific accusations thrown at you which are hurtful at best, libel at worst then regardless of his motives it's completely unacceptable.
Fwiw he was going on like many posters were being grotesquely transphobic, homophobic and racist and that simply wasn't the case.
I get he does have courage in his convictions, but his delivery his horrific and certainly not the way to get people round to his way of thinking. |  |
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Sorry, but when you're on the end of his ire for no reason whatsoever, and then get horrific accusations thrown at you which are hurtful at best, libel at worst then regardless of his motives it's completely unacceptable.
Fwiw he was going on like many posters were being grotesquely transphobic, homophobic and racist and that simply wasn't the case.
I get he does have courage in his convictions, but his delivery his horrific and certainly not the way to get people round to his way of thinking. |
I’m relatively new to the board so may not have seen the entire history and obviously he wasn’t without fault but there are equally quite a few posters that used to bait and pile-on for a reaction.
He was the author of his own downfall because of his delivery BUT quite a few posters should probably reflect on their own posts and comments too as regrettably there are a lot of comments made under the banner of banter that won’t stand the test of time and age and maturity will/should cause regret for some. That doesn’t excuse Callis’s responses on occasions but was a contributing factor.
Anyway, I’ve said enough, was intended to be conciliatory rather than antagonistic so I’ll leave it there . | | | |
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I’m relatively new to the board so may not have seen the entire history and obviously he wasn’t without fault but there are equally quite a few posters that used to bait and pile-on for a reaction.
He was the author of his own downfall because of his delivery BUT quite a few posters should probably reflect on their own posts and comments too as regrettably there are a lot of comments made under the banner of banter that won’t stand the test of time and age and maturity will/should cause regret for some. That doesn’t excuse Callis’s responses on occasions but was a contributing factor.
Anyway, I’ve said enough, was intended to be conciliatory rather than antagonistic so I’ll leave it there . |
He literally only comments on threads which he can do what he did yesterday and barely if at all comments on football threads, which predominantly is what the forum is or was intended for.
Seems like someone who wants an argument.................over the internet. weird. | | | |
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I’m relatively new to the board so may not have seen the entire history and obviously he wasn’t without fault but there are equally quite a few posters that used to bait and pile-on for a reaction.
He was the author of his own downfall because of his delivery BUT quite a few posters should probably reflect on their own posts and comments too as regrettably there are a lot of comments made under the banner of banter that won’t stand the test of time and age and maturity will/should cause regret for some. That doesn’t excuse Callis’s responses on occasions but was a contributing factor.
Anyway, I’ve said enough, was intended to be conciliatory rather than antagonistic so I’ll leave it there . |
I do totally agree that there are posters that constantly try and bait eachother, it's been going on years and maybe there was a little bit of that going on in those threads.
But the majority of us who occasionally post in those kind of threads got a barrage of abuse without foundation, and to then accuse Phil of being transphobic was really poor taste.
I admire his passion in certain topics, but he then completely negates any decent debate by throwing his toys out of the pram and throwing inflammatory baseless comments around.
Anyway, I don't want to start another argumentative thread, especially as I'm generally a lover not a fighter, and wish you a very pleasant weekend and here's hoping a win Tommorow! | |
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To be fair to Callis, his motives are sound, his methods let him down but largely through frustrations. Personally I think it would fair for people to reflect more on what his message was rather than the delivery as there was a lot of good, well intentioned genuinely compassionate stuff in what he tried to express.
That said he didn’t really give the admin much choice which is unfortunate |
I agree with you to a certain extent but I think you are being far too generous when you say his methods let him down largely through frustations. To me he wasn't interested in discussion or even debate, all he did was just preach to people and generally people don't like being preached to whatever the subject or however good the intentions. It was the main reason why I chose to hardly ever interact with him.
And the accusations and name calling was inexcusable. We can all let ourselves down with our behaviour from time to time especially when we let our emotions get the better of us but he seemed to do this on a fairly regular basis and severely overstepped the mark with many of his accusations, particularly those aimed at Phil. [Post edited 6 Jan 2023 22:42]
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I agree with you to a certain extent but I think you are being far too generous when you say his methods let him down largely through frustations. To me he wasn't interested in discussion or even debate, all he did was just preach to people and generally people don't like being preached to whatever the subject or however good the intentions. It was the main reason why I chose to hardly ever interact with him.
And the accusations and name calling was inexcusable. We can all let ourselves down with our behaviour from time to time especially when we let our emotions get the better of us but he seemed to do this on a fairly regular basis and severely overstepped the mark with many of his accusations, particularly those aimed at Phil. [Post edited 6 Jan 2023 22:42]
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He is so sure that he is right about everything that it is an affront to him that anyone should hold a different view or question his. This then causes him to shout louder, accuse others of not listening and become vitriolic in his abuse.
When I first came on here I had a few lengthy debates with some posters and I quickly learned there was no point engaging with Callis (as he was then). All it did was go round in circles. |  |
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He is so sure that he is right about everything that it is an affront to him that anyone should hold a different view or question his. This then causes him to shout louder, accuse others of not listening and become vitriolic in his abuse.
When I first came on here I had a few lengthy debates with some posters and I quickly learned there was no point engaging with Callis (as he was then). All it did was go round in circles. |
Yes I agree and nobody is right about everything, us humans invariably get a lot more wrong than we get right and that goes for some of the most intelligent people that ever existed.
I also got the feeling he would start threads just to see if anyone would dare disagree with him because like you say in his mind he was always right about everything he posted.
I wish the guy no ill will though, hopefully being off here means he will have less anger and stress in his life which can only be a good thing. [Post edited 6 Jan 2023 23:11]
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I PMed him last night. Was like 1am and callis was still going on and making horrific accusations.
I decided both publicly and privately to give Phil my support. Must be quite grim running a website we all are lucky to be apart of and having one poster publicly trashing you all day for all the world to see. And seeing as it was late and still going on, I stepped up like the hero I am. #ThankyouRommy |
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He literally only comments on threads which he can do what he did yesterday and barely if at all comments on football threads, which predominantly is what the forum is or was intended for.
Seems like someone who wants an argument.................over the internet. weird. |
This is the biggest load of nonsense.
Those who don't pretend to be football Jedis may read the football posts and try to filter the 90% bullsht from the 10% who have some valid insight.
At least 50%+ of the "general" stuff has some substance and, in many cases, something approaching expertise.
He commented on threads/ issues he (apparently) had more personal experience of than most of us on here, including me. If you are on the thick end of prejudice then I can understand how it is difficult to maintain ones composure whilst trying to explain that to a population less enlightened than you are to the issues.
I hope Phil sees it fit to allow MT and Jeera back on the board earlier rather than later should they wish to return. | | | |
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This is the biggest load of nonsense.
Those who don't pretend to be football Jedis may read the football posts and try to filter the 90% bullsht from the 10% who have some valid insight.
At least 50%+ of the "general" stuff has some substance and, in many cases, something approaching expertise.
He commented on threads/ issues he (apparently) had more personal experience of than most of us on here, including me. If you are on the thick end of prejudice then I can understand how it is difficult to maintain ones composure whilst trying to explain that to a population less enlightened than you are to the issues.
I hope Phil sees it fit to allow MT and Jeera back on the board earlier rather than later should they wish to return. |
Yeah biggest load of nonsense.
Christ some people on here are full of it.
This is predominantly a football forum. He never comments on football. That's all I said and its a biggest load of nonsense.haha [Post edited 7 Jan 2023 0:21]
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Yeah biggest load of nonsense.
Christ some people on here are full of it.
This is predominantly a football forum. He never comments on football. That's all I said and its a biggest load of nonsense.haha [Post edited 7 Jan 2023 0:21]
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I'm sure the board will call out your homophobia there.
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I'm sure the board will call out your homophobia there.
Apparently it's forensic at this sort of thing. |
I'll agree with you on that. I should have reworded it incase anyone labels me anything. | | | |
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I'll agree with you on that. I should have reworded it incase anyone labels me anything. |
I have a screenshot.
It was clearly and openly homophobic.
I label you as a poster of homophobic posts.
I bet there's no consequence and you'll carry on being accepted as a jolly old footy boy. | | | |
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Cry babies.
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| Removed thread on 05:33 - Jan 7 with 1723 views | Ryorry |
A few general thoughts while I'm up cos my new 'old girl', a Border Collie cross who arrived yesterday, is crying (I think for her previous owner who sadly died).
Many people are still referring to monytowbray by his old username which he'd said several times he no longer wished to be used.
Phil was actually the only person posting in the contentious threads that I saw (edit: sorry if I missed others) who took care to refer to people in gender neutral terms - yet he was the one labelled as a "defender of transphobes".
TWTD forum is highly educative - I personally have learned a huge amount from threads on these kinds of topics. Before the BLM debates on here eg, I'd been in the "surely all lives matter?" camp - after lucid explanations on the issue by those who were prepared to remain civil & patient, I was fully supportive of BLM.
If only monytowbray had bothered to ask me civilly if I'd shifted my position at all in the trans debate - because as it happens, I had - before he came out swinging at me like Mike Tyson while I was still sat in my corner. After that, all my time & energy was used up simply batting away his false accusations. I'd only said on this latest thread that I supported the pronouns move by employers as long as it wasn't made compulsory, so that trans people had a choice of when & where to come out - a position which others also took. Unfortunately MT ignored that & just took my posts as a hook to load historic stuff onto, some of which views I no longer hold as a result of the debates on here.
I'll say again as I did both on the latest (now deleted) thread & to at least three people individually, that I thought MT was one of the most important posters on here because he raised issues that others don't. It's a real shame he was unable to enlighten others in a civil manner & ended up wrecking his own threads. No teacher would dream of going into a classroom and "educating" the people in it by shouting abuse and false accusations at them.
Anyway, the old girl has now fallen asleep I think, so I'm going back to bed to do the same while the chance is there! [Post edited 7 Jan 2023 5:36]
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This is the biggest load of nonsense.
Those who don't pretend to be football Jedis may read the football posts and try to filter the 90% bullsht from the 10% who have some valid insight.
At least 50%+ of the "general" stuff has some substance and, in many cases, something approaching expertise.
He commented on threads/ issues he (apparently) had more personal experience of than most of us on here, including me. If you are on the thick end of prejudice then I can understand how it is difficult to maintain ones composure whilst trying to explain that to a population less enlightened than you are to the issues.
I hope Phil sees it fit to allow MT and Jeera back on the board earlier rather than later should they wish to return. |
1) Jeera and MT were abusive. They’ve broken the T&C’s of the forum and have been banned. Fair enough.
2) Other posters made several transphobic posts, posts that also break this site’s published T&C’s, These posters are still here. Seems a bit unfair given point 1.
One set of posters have their repeated transgressions against the T&C’s forgiven in the naive hope that they become a ‘learning experience’ for them, as if they are idiotic toddlers rather than 60 year old men.
Another set of posters get the immediate boot over their T&C transgressions..
The rest of us decent sorts are left wondering:
1) If the TWTD T&Cs actually mean anything at all;
2) If the transphobes are allowed to remain on here because people don’t actually understand what transphobia is, or;
3) If sufficient numbers of people on here care so little about transphobia that it’s just easier to sweep it under the rug and get rid of the people who rudely kick up a stink about it.
I’m left wondering, how come some posters are allowed to repeatedly break the published terms and conditions of this forum while others aren’t? Whether you agree with the content of what’s been posted or not, surely you agree that everyone on here should be treated and judged equally? That’s clearly not been happening.
Ultimately it’s been an embarrassing few days for this forum. No doubt there are more ahead. [Post edited 7 Jan 2023 6:42]
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I have a screenshot.
It was clearly and openly homophobic.
I label you as a poster of homophobic posts.
I bet there's no consequence and you'll carry on being accepted as a jolly old footy boy. |
Sad that people have started to feel comfortable in posting that kind of stuff here.
Consequences? None. [Post edited 7 Jan 2023 6:40]
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1) Jeera and MT were abusive. They’ve broken the T&C’s of the forum and have been banned. Fair enough.
2) Other posters made several transphobic posts, posts that also break this site’s published T&C’s, These posters are still here. Seems a bit unfair given point 1.
One set of posters have their repeated transgressions against the T&C’s forgiven in the naive hope that they become a ‘learning experience’ for them, as if they are idiotic toddlers rather than 60 year old men.
Another set of posters get the immediate boot over their T&C transgressions..
The rest of us decent sorts are left wondering:
1) If the TWTD T&Cs actually mean anything at all;
2) If the transphobes are allowed to remain on here because people don’t actually understand what transphobia is, or;
3) If sufficient numbers of people on here care so little about transphobia that it’s just easier to sweep it under the rug and get rid of the people who rudely kick up a stink about it.
I’m left wondering, how come some posters are allowed to repeatedly break the published terms and conditions of this forum while others aren’t? Whether you agree with the content of what’s been posted or not, surely you agree that everyone on here should be treated and judged equally? That’s clearly not been happening.
Ultimately it’s been an embarrassing few days for this forum. No doubt there are more ahead. [Post edited 7 Jan 2023 6:42]
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You may as well be clear as to who you are calling out as transphobic just for the avoidance of doubt.
Regarding some of the rest then yes it is amazing that you are still here. ("...us decent sort...." lol) |  |
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I’m relatively new to the board so may not have seen the entire history and obviously he wasn’t without fault but there are equally quite a few posters that used to bait and pile-on for a reaction.
He was the author of his own downfall because of his delivery BUT quite a few posters should probably reflect on their own posts and comments too as regrettably there are a lot of comments made under the banner of banter that won’t stand the test of time and age and maturity will/should cause regret for some. That doesn’t excuse Callis’s responses on occasions but was a contributing factor.
Anyway, I’ve said enough, was intended to be conciliatory rather than antagonistic so I’ll leave it there . |
Yep, I think you’ve covered that well. Both the passion and *ahem* ‘over-enthusiastic’ response of the said poster and the reason why he gets so worked up. Some posters can’t see that their views are misguided at best, and mirror arguments used by dark actors (be it racists, transphobes, antisemites, whatever). It’s very easy to see why others come to the conclusion they are actually racist/transphobic/whatever, even if they may not be. There are a lot of vile views seeping into society and becoming normalised from the top down, so it’s no surprise some are being reflected by people.
On the flip side, the urge to judge too quickly is also something we see more of in society in general. Maybe it’s best to not immediately see the worst in everyone - especially people you’ve never met and don’t know. |  |
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1) Jeera and MT were abusive. They’ve broken the T&C’s of the forum and have been banned. Fair enough.
2) Other posters made several transphobic posts, posts that also break this site’s published T&C’s, These posters are still here. Seems a bit unfair given point 1.
One set of posters have their repeated transgressions against the T&C’s forgiven in the naive hope that they become a ‘learning experience’ for them, as if they are idiotic toddlers rather than 60 year old men.
Another set of posters get the immediate boot over their T&C transgressions..
The rest of us decent sorts are left wondering:
1) If the TWTD T&Cs actually mean anything at all;
2) If the transphobes are allowed to remain on here because people don’t actually understand what transphobia is, or;
3) If sufficient numbers of people on here care so little about transphobia that it’s just easier to sweep it under the rug and get rid of the people who rudely kick up a stink about it.
I’m left wondering, how come some posters are allowed to repeatedly break the published terms and conditions of this forum while others aren’t? Whether you agree with the content of what’s been posted or not, surely you agree that everyone on here should be treated and judged equally? That’s clearly not been happening.
Ultimately it’s been an embarrassing few days for this forum. No doubt there are more ahead. [Post edited 7 Jan 2023 6:42]
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Listen, im not whiter than white, far from it, but for you to class yourself as a decent sort is laughable really when 90% of the time your only reason to log on is to stir the s***. It was noticeable when you stayed away for a while the board was a lot more cordial. Just saying like. Right,let's talk football...for Phils sanity. |  | | |
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Listen, im not whiter than white, far from it, but for you to class yourself as a decent sort is laughable really when 90% of the time your only reason to log on is to stir the s***. It was noticeable when you stayed away for a while the board was a lot more cordial. Just saying like. Right,let's talk football...for Phils sanity. |
For the avoidance of doubt, this is not directed at the poster you are replying to but a more general point about stuff I see on various social media outlets as well as on here, there is a section (not all) see themselves as being morally pure and on the side of the righteous because they hold left wing views, and that self righteousness gives them a free pass to turn a blind eye to racism from their own side, abuse, body shame and pile on people because they are ‘Tories’ or have ‘right wing views’. And because of those ‘right wing views’ they are evil incarnate and are deserving of all they get.
It’s a complete lack of self awareness, where they see themselves as the ‘good guys’ so all of the above is for the greater good.
As I said, this isn’t directed at the poster you are replying to or the majority of people who identify as left wing, but to a certain section of cyber warriors.
edited to correct some iphone spelling mistakes. No change of words or content. [Post edited 7 Jan 2023 10:29]
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For the avoidance of doubt, this is not directed at the poster you are replying to but a more general point about stuff I see on various social media outlets as well as on here, there is a section (not all) see themselves as being morally pure and on the side of the righteous because they hold left wing views, and that self righteousness gives them a free pass to turn a blind eye to racism from their own side, abuse, body shame and pile on people because they are ‘Tories’ or have ‘right wing views’. And because of those ‘right wing views’ they are evil incarnate and are deserving of all they get.
It’s a complete lack of self awareness, where they see themselves as the ‘good guys’ so all of the above is for the greater good.
As I said, this isn’t directed at the poster you are replying to or the majority of people who identify as left wing, but to a certain section of cyber warriors.
edited to correct some iphone spelling mistakes. No change of words or content. [Post edited 7 Jan 2023 10:29]
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Perhaps this is an example of the increasing illiberalism of some so-called liberals that I mentioned on the thread you started about the Spectator magazine.
The other option is that it reflects frustration and anger at 13 years of Tory government.
I have only been commenting on this part of the forum for the last few months, but I do sense a majority of lefties, and that those on the right perhaps do get a hard time.
But perhaps the boot would be on the other foot, if we had had 13 years of a Labour government.
EDIT: Whatever your views and whatever goes on elsewhere, let's try to keep the debate on TWTD kind, informed and measured but let's not lose the passion. [Post edited 7 Jan 2023 10:03]
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For the avoidance of doubt, this is not directed at the poster you are replying to but a more general point about stuff I see on various social media outlets as well as on here, there is a section (not all) see themselves as being morally pure and on the side of the righteous because they hold left wing views, and that self righteousness gives them a free pass to turn a blind eye to racism from their own side, abuse, body shame and pile on people because they are ‘Tories’ or have ‘right wing views’. And because of those ‘right wing views’ they are evil incarnate and are deserving of all they get.
It’s a complete lack of self awareness, where they see themselves as the ‘good guys’ so all of the above is for the greater good.
As I said, this isn’t directed at the poster you are replying to or the majority of people who identify as left wing, but to a certain section of cyber warriors.
edited to correct some iphone spelling mistakes. No change of words or content. [Post edited 7 Jan 2023 10:29]
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….whilst your comment is not directed at the poster he was replying to, it does apply to him.
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