| More Brexit bad news on 19:02 - Jan 16 with 1799 views | bluelagos |
| More Brexit bad news on 18:23 - Jan 16 by Swansea_Blue |
3/10, must try harder |
You're far too generous/good natured Swanners. |  |
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| More Brexit bad news on 19:12 - Jan 16 with 1772 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
The complete revival of the Lowestoft fishing fleet and the extra £350M per week to the NHS have been very refreshing. How did Project Fear get away with calling either into question? |  |
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| More Brexit bad news on 19:13 - Jan 16 with 1763 views | HARRY10 |
| More Brexit bad news on 18:56 - Jan 16 by DanTheMan |
You question me saying there are some niches, and then proceed to describe one of them...
Even excluding that one, I'm sure there are examples where it has helped a company or two but I would have thought they were in the minority but quite some amount.
But saying they don't exist is just silly. |
Given that my comment relied on a play on the word niches I thought you would have grasped the intent there ie brexit was always aimed at the wealthy and funded by the wealthy
To point out that something has not happened as claimed is silly does rather suggest you should read your posts before you post them
Nor did I say brexit benefits do not exist. What I stated is there have not been one single one, as in reported. Just as a fish and chip shop might exist on the moon, but so far none have been reported.
Now given that brexiters are desperate to show some evidence of brexit benefiting the country/individuals, why have there been no examples listed ?
Yet not one, nothing, zippo ... not even a sausage (in batter or otherwise) |  | | |
| More Brexit bad news on 21:48 - Jan 16 with 1701 views | BlueBadger |
In a similar vein, the NHS crisis must be a myth because I haven't seen anyone today who's been harmed by massive delays in ambulance pickup, ED overcrowding or short staffing. |  |
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| More Brexit bad news on 21:52 - Jan 16 with 1688 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| More Brexit bad news on 21:48 - Jan 16 by BlueBadger |
In a similar vein, the NHS crisis must be a myth because I haven't seen anyone today who's been harmed by massive delays in ambulance pickup, ED overcrowding or short staffing. |
I haven't needed the NHS today so I don't understand why I should be paying any tax for it. Sell it off and make anyone using it pay for it themselves.
Until I need it, that is! | |
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| More Brexit bad news on 22:13 - Jan 16 with 1665 views | BlueBadger |
| More Brexit bad news on 17:32 - Jan 16 by blueasfook |
When will you? |
No Stokie, YOUR mum is fat. | |
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| More Brexit bad news on 22:23 - Jan 16 with 1659 views | factual_blue |
| More Brexit bad news on 21:52 - Jan 16 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I haven't needed the NHS today so I don't understand why I should be paying any tax for it. Sell it off and make anyone using it pay for it themselves.
Until I need it, that is! |
The lovely simple-minded libertarians who don't like paying for the NHS should be barred from using it, and left to rely on the private sector.
And the best of luck to them when they (or their families) need life-saving ICU treatment, complex surgery or even childbirth needing more complex intervention. |  |
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| More Brexit bad news on 22:50 - Jan 16 with 1611 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| More Brexit bad news on 22:23 - Jan 16 by factual_blue |
The lovely simple-minded libertarians who don't like paying for the NHS should be barred from using it, and left to rely on the private sector.
And the best of luck to them when they (or their families) need life-saving ICU treatment, complex surgery or even childbirth needing more complex intervention. |
I actually think it is an education thing.
We need to educate people why public services are the most efficient way to provide services to the public and that benefit all of society not just those using them directly at any particular time.
It should be pointed out that properly funded and run public services are absolutely feasible and it is a political choice that has run them into the ground and not because they are unsustainable.
Unfortunately, all this is too frequently completely undone at the ballot box when a party then says "and we will give you 1 p off your tax". | |
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| More Brexit bad news on 08:23 - Jan 17 with 1509 views | ElephantintheRoom |
3,400 jobs in retail can usually be divided by three as many are part time shop staff and the security will be contracted out on zero hours contracts. From memory M&S have actually cut their store numbers quite severely and are opening big stores in ghastly retail centres. It probably adds up to job cuts -and ‘efficiencies’ but that doesn’t make good PR | |
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| More Brexit bad news on 08:29 - Jan 17 with 1499 views | WestStanderLaLaLa |
Over 3 to 5 years, gonna need better shades for these sunlit uplands. |  |
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| More Brexit bad news on 10:13 - Jan 17 with 1438 views | DJR |
I put this up on another thread but perhaps this is another Brexit bonus.
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| More Brexit bad news on 10:23 - Jan 17 with 1421 views | DJR |
| More Brexit bad news on 10:13 - Jan 17 by DJR |
I put this up on another thread but perhaps this is another Brexit bonus.
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Another Brexit bonus?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64303149
From what I can recall Britishvolt was launched with a bit of a Brexit fanfare, but it is difficult to see much long-term future for car battery production, or even the car industry itself, with our exit from the EU, particularly with the move to electric cars.
As regards car battery production itself, the UK currently only has one Chinese-owned plant next to the Nissan factory in Sunderland, while 35 plants are planned or already under construction in the EU. | | | |
| More Brexit bad news on 10:26 - Jan 17 with 1416 views | BlueNomad |
| More Brexit bad news on 17:46 - Jan 16 by HARRY10 |
"I'm sure there are some niches where it's worked out nicely"
eh ?
I think you mean 'for some of the richest it worked out nicely' but for the country there has not been one sinle benefit, whereas there are daily accounts of some new damage it has caused
Even the most deluded now only claim that some time in the future (never specified) there will be some benefits...possibly
Meanwhile more brexit regulation and cost.
ETIAS - British tourists will have to apply for a visa waiver to enter the EU for holidays that last under 90 days (£7) from Nov 2023
Brexit - the gift that keeps taking |
According to Rees-Smug's calculations you (as I will be dead by then) will see the benefits 48 years from now..............at 23.61hrs.........................on 30 February |  | | |
| More Brexit bad news on 10:28 - Jan 17 with 1418 views | blueasfook |
| More Brexit bad news on 10:23 - Jan 17 by DJR |
Another Brexit bonus?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64303149
From what I can recall Britishvolt was launched with a bit of a Brexit fanfare, but it is difficult to see much long-term future for car battery production, or even the car industry itself, with our exit from the EU, particularly with the move to electric cars.
As regards car battery production itself, the UK currently only has one Chinese-owned plant next to the Nissan factory in Sunderland, while 35 plants are planned or already under construction in the EU. |
All you negative ninnies on this thread lol.
Brexit=Win
Once the dust settles, we will all be rolling in cash. |  |
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| More Brexit bad news on 10:30 - Jan 17 with 1399 views | leitrimblue |
| More Brexit bad news on 10:28 - Jan 17 by blueasfook |
All you negative ninnies on this thread lol.
Brexit=Win
Once the dust settles, we will all be rolling in cash. |
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| More Brexit bad news on 10:35 - Jan 17 with 1379 views | bracknell_blue |
But due to Brexit there will be nobody to take the jobs. |  |
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| More Brexit bad news on 11:23 - Jan 17 with 1318 views | DJR |
| More Brexit bad news on 10:28 - Jan 17 by blueasfook |
All you negative ninnies on this thread lol.
Brexit=Win
Once the dust settles, we will all be rolling in cash. |
I can't wait! | | | |
| More Brexit bad news on 11:32 - Jan 17 with 1288 views | MattinLondon |
| More Brexit bad news on 11:23 - Jan 17 by DJR |
I can't wait! |
Off-topic but six years on it still makes me feel bemused when brexiters kept going on about trading on WTO terms and that the EU would collapse without the UK. |  | | |
| More Brexit bad news on 12:11 - Jan 17 with 1253 views | HARRY10 |
"Britain is suffering from the “catastrophic” impact of Brexit and should consider a closer trading relationship with the EU, according to the Asda chair.
Tory peer Lord Stuart Rose said trade between the UK and its neighbouring bloc was “not flowing smoothly” as he outlined why all sides should compromise to achieve closer ties."
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-catastrophic-impact-uk-eco
Brexit can be credited with keeping those 'foreign johnnies' from taking our jobs As in respose to the inumerable costs and burdens imposed by brexit companies are continue to up sticks and move back into the EU.
Mind you, he is only the CEO of a massive supermarket chain, so what does he know when compared to someone who has not had a job outside of politics for a number of decades (Farage) ? | | | |
| More Brexit bad news on 12:14 - Jan 17 with 1243 views | Churchman |
Yes, it does get worse and worse. Every day and will continue to do so. Business hamstrung, labour shortages, emptying high streets, raging inflation (much of it supply driven caused by Brexit), longest recession in history, stagnation.
To link 3400 jobs to Brexit is a bit of a stretch isn’t it? Surely you could argue that without that M&S would be recruiting 6800 - and with freedom of movement might even be able to recruit them.
There are no benefits to Brexit. Not one. There never were. Once it was worked out what Brexit actually meant two years after the vote, it was all about how can we limit the damage. Nothing else. It should have been about negotiating entry into the Single Market/Customs Union, but the tories didn’t have the guts to fess up to the disaster they’d created or find a sensible solution. Ideology however mad came first.
Australia trade deal anyone? A deal that works for Australia to the detriment of the U.K. brilliant! Almost as smart as getting rid of all energy storage and wondering why your energy costs more than everyone else’s, even if you can get sufficient supplies. Only real idiots would do something like that.
What about the saving? Annual EU contribution was about £14bn of which we got about £10bn back. So a saving about £4bn for the NHS. Whoopee!! Shame about the almost incalculable cost to the £3trillion economy sort and long term and the trashing of relationships and reputation. Nobody bar the swivel eyed brigade thinks any of this is sane, surely?
£4bn net cost - one tenth of what Truss and the clowns cost the U.K. economy when it piled it into the wall. One tenth of Sunak’s badly managed furlough scheme, a fraction of the money lost to fraudsters and a laughable track and trace system that was as useful as a chocolate teapot.
So yes let’s all celebrate those 3400 jobs at M&S and declare Brexit a success on the back of it. Hurrah!! [Post edited 17 Jan 2023 12:19]
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| More Brexit bad news on 12:30 - Jan 17 with 1198 views | HARRY10 |
| More Brexit bad news on 10:23 - Jan 17 by DJR |
Another Brexit bonus?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64303149
From what I can recall Britishvolt was launched with a bit of a Brexit fanfare, but it is difficult to see much long-term future for car battery production, or even the car industry itself, with our exit from the EU, particularly with the move to electric cars.
As regards car battery production itself, the UK currently only has one Chinese-owned plant next to the Nissan factory in Sunderland, while 35 plants are planned or already under construction in the EU. |
"The Prime Minister (Johnson) said: “I want to thank him for helping to secure the Britishvolt Gigafactory in Blyth. It is an absolutely amazing investment
The new battery factory will “boost the production of electric vehicles in the UK, whilst levelling up opportunity and bringing thousands of new highly-skilled jobs to communities in our industrial heartlands.”
Ah yes, levelling up. Another bit of bluster/bllsht to over excite the not too bright, in exchange for their votes. All now long forgotten. Just as the Garden Bridge, London Airport, Grenfell, A-Levels, School meals.....
A neat encapsulation of Brexit -
"The UK currently only has one Chinese-owned plant next to the Nissan factory in Sunderland, while 35 plants are planned or already under construction in the EU." | | | |
| More Brexit bad news on 13:33 - Jan 17 with 1148 views | Churchman |
| More Brexit bad news on 12:11 - Jan 17 by HARRY10 |
"Britain is suffering from the “catastrophic” impact of Brexit and should consider a closer trading relationship with the EU, according to the Asda chair.
Tory peer Lord Stuart Rose said trade between the UK and its neighbouring bloc was “not flowing smoothly” as he outlined why all sides should compromise to achieve closer ties."
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-catastrophic-impact-uk-eco
Brexit can be credited with keeping those 'foreign johnnies' from taking our jobs As in respose to the inumerable costs and burdens imposed by brexit companies are continue to up sticks and move back into the EU.
Mind you, he is only the CEO of a massive supermarket chain, so what does he know when compared to someone who has not had a job outside of politics for a number of decades (Farage) ? |
The only solution is rejoining the single market and Customs Union. It’s as obvious as night following day. There’s no sane alternative. Using the words might be politically dangerous for Starmer, so call it something else - as Rose indicates. It’s not hard.
It’s also the only solution to the Northern Ireland issue. Believe me, all alternatives were looked at years ago. The only thing oven ready in this aspect of the (no) deal was Johnson’s baked in stupidity and gross negligence in not bothering to look at the consequences of his actions. | | | |
| More Brexit bad news on 13:41 - Jan 17 with 1145 views | jonbull88 |
“Opening 8 full line shops, 7 of which are relocations”. Just means they’ll shut a few more town centre shops and open up big ones on the outskirts of the town. | | | |
| More Brexit bad news on 15:44 - Jan 17 with 1103 views | HARRY10 |
| More Brexit bad news on 13:33 - Jan 17 by Churchman |
The only solution is rejoining the single market and Customs Union. It’s as obvious as night following day. There’s no sane alternative. Using the words might be politically dangerous for Starmer, so call it something else - as Rose indicates. It’s not hard.
It’s also the only solution to the Northern Ireland issue. Believe me, all alternatives were looked at years ago. The only thing oven ready in this aspect of the (no) deal was Johnson’s baked in stupidity and gross negligence in not bothering to look at the consequences of his actions. |
I doubt that the UK could simply join the Single Market and Customs Union on their own. No other country has done with full access.
As to Johnson and the consequences, he never has concerned himself with the consequence of his lying. Be it his marriage, getting woman pregnant or lying about brexit. A weak and shallow man, his sole preoccupation has always been in 'winning the day' something not too hard to do in a world where others don't.
"Give me £60 and I will drive you to the airport, cheaper than the others "
Then does not turn up. Somehow Johnson seems to think this kind of behaviour makes him clever. A jolly good wheeze that np one else is has thought of.
With Brexit it was just a case of him signing whatever the EU put in front of him. Irrespective of what May had warned about, and what others, not so think as his voters, aleady knew.
However the slow move back into the EU has long begun, and one that will meet less and less opposition as the damaging consequences of brexit mount up. Many are still in denial though, and like the Parrot Sketch still squeak out idioces.....it will take time, it has not be properly inplemented, all the jobs lost mean less migrants, 4m export forms a week mean more jobs as do border checkss"[i/i[........
Ubsurprisingly their voices are becoming fewer by the week | | | |
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