| I feel sometimes I’m watching different games and am connected to a differentâ 17:28 - Feb 11 with 11451 views | unstableblue |
…. Club and project!
First off that was one of the most exciting games of football and atmosphere than I can remember
Second having gone with Sheff Weds fans they were adamant that first half was the best they’ve played for seasons, and second half they were completely blown away by us
They were physically ballistic in the first half and to come back from 2-0 down with them so dominant at that point is remarkable
Look some players like Davis, Wolf, Humphreys and Clarke struggled in that first half - but these are young prospects are only going to get better and better… and I’m frickin excited to watch that
That second half blitz from Town was wonderful… AND we also could have easily buckled under a series of set plays
Yes of course we wanted a win… but this season is not over… and I’m excited to watch this team progress and watch our manager strengthen his experience
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| People who refuse to offer any.... on 09:56 - Feb 12 with 796 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 09:53 - Feb 12 by PrideOfTheEast |
I would definitely be giving him another transfer window and season. You have to give a manager who is in his first full season another shot if we don’t go up surely. |
Imagine an uproar if Cook or Lambert were still in charge. |  | | |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:01 - Feb 12 with 774 views | Stewart27 |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 23:38 - Feb 11 by FrimleyBlue |
Haven't been overly negative today thank you. Just amazed what people are buzzed about these days. |
We were all there when we drew with Inter Milan and United.
Unfortunately that ship has sailed. What are we supposed to do? Cry about the past or use it as a stick to beat us with now.
Yesterday was pulsating. You weren’t there so you have absolutely no right to tell anybody otherwise. Yes you can moan about the result. That’s easy and what you do every week anyway. But yesterday was a proper match to be part of. Haven’t been part of that live for a while now. |  | | |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:01 - Feb 12 with 774 views | FrimleyBlue |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 09:56 - Feb 12 by Mach_foreignBlue |
Imagine an uproar if Cook or Lambert were still in charge. |
What I don't agree with is people saying KM can take no responsibility for not reaching play offs last season, despite half a season left and just needing a run of results, which they now believe is still highly achievable now, which is even more bizarre as the side under KM last season was on better form than it is now under him, so i don't really see where all the confidence is coming from. |  |
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| I feel sometimes I’m watching different games and am connected to a differentï on 10:03 - Feb 12 with 772 views | Stewart27 |
| I feel sometimes I’m watching different games and am connected to a differentï on 22:22 - Feb 11 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
I know we’ve always been considered a “nice” club and I’ve been away over a decade at this point but has it got way worse? It’s funny those that think they are sticking by the club through thick and thin makes them the real fans. Surely those of us get frustrated shows we still have passion and want this sh1t show of underachieving turned around.
These lot would be clapping a lap of honor with with an 8th place finish. Need a winning mentality. This acceptance of and the “I’ll take that” I’m so relived we didn’t lose is kind of pathetic! |
I genuinely want to know your plan. You seem to have it all figured out.
Tell me your plan about how to get more from the players by the way that supporters should be conducting themselves.
Over to you. | | | |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:06 - Feb 12 with 748 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 09:56 - Feb 12 by Mach_foreignBlue |
Imagine an uproar if Cook or Lambert were still in charge. |
You have to agree that KM is showing more promise as our manager than either of those two?
I’m not absolving km of responsibility- it’s a failure if we don’t go up this year without a doubt. I just have faith that we’re not too far away - I never felt that with Lambert or Cook. | | | |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:07 - Feb 12 with 747 views | Plums |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 09:56 - Feb 12 by Mach_foreignBlue |
Imagine an uproar if Cook or Lambert were still in charge. |
Rightly so. They were two managers with no defined strategy, pattern of play or ethos. Like headless chickens. We can all see KMc has a plan, has drilled the players in it and they believe in what they're doing. Results are the end product and have been lacking recently but to give up now or in the next six months is madness IMHO. |  |
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| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:10 - Feb 12 with 742 views | FrimleyBlue |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:07 - Feb 12 by Plums |
Rightly so. They were two managers with no defined strategy, pattern of play or ethos. Like headless chickens. We can all see KMc has a plan, has drilled the players in it and they believe in what they're doing. Results are the end product and have been lacking recently but to give up now or in the next six months is madness IMHO. |
" They were two managers with no defined strategy, pattern of play or ethos"
wrong though, both had plans
Lambert was the closest to what KM is doing, but KM is getting us doing it higher up the pitch, resulting in something that looks better but is failing at certain aspects still | |
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| I feel sometimes I’m watching different games and am connected to a differentï on 10:11 - Feb 12 with 742 views | braveblue |
Well said. | | | |
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| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:12 - Feb 12 with 737 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:06 - Feb 12 by PrideOfTheEast |
You have to agree that KM is showing more promise as our manager than either of those two?
I’m not absolving km of responsibility- it’s a failure if we don’t go up this year without a doubt. I just have faith that we’re not too far away - I never felt that with Lambert or Cook. |
Promise? Not when you see our league form and circumstances.
Almost three months since the 4-4 Charlton game and our form has been a midtable one. In a meantime McKenna and the players have both been telling us similar sentences: we will learn from this blah blah blah, loads of games left and points to play for blah blah blah
So what promise have they shown since the Charlton game and what have they learnt? | | | |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:19 - Feb 12 with 721 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:12 - Feb 12 by Mach_foreignBlue |
Promise? Not when you see our league form and circumstances.
Almost three months since the 4-4 Charlton game and our form has been a midtable one. In a meantime McKenna and the players have both been telling us similar sentences: we will learn from this blah blah blah, loads of games left and points to play for blah blah blah
So what promise have they shown since the Charlton game and what have they learnt? |
I didn’t reference the Charlton game. Clearly our run since then has been nothing like promotion form.
My wider point is that KM has shown in his 14 months as manager significantly more promise than either lambert or cook in terms of putting a team together that is capable of doing something. He’s had a big budget so that’s to be expected and he now must deliver. | | | |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:20 - Feb 12 with 709 views | Stewart27 |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 23:50 - Feb 11 by reusersfreekicks |
Look it up in a dictionary. Pulsating is used in relation to the content not context of the game. |
Don’t mate.
It will be totally lost on him.
Doesn’t do the live experience. Just takes the keyboard before, during and after every single game - and a very large proportion of every waking hour.
Like he’s already said, the result was the same for him as it was for us. | | | |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:21 - Feb 12 with 702 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:19 - Feb 12 by PrideOfTheEast |
I didn’t reference the Charlton game. Clearly our run since then has been nothing like promotion form.
My wider point is that KM has shown in his 14 months as manager significantly more promise than either lambert or cook in terms of putting a team together that is capable of doing something. He’s had a big budget so that’s to be expected and he now must deliver. |
He must deliver. Bang on ! He has got the tools every manager in this league would love to have.
No excuses if we fail to go up. | | | |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:22 - Feb 12 with 699 views | Churchman |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 08:53 - Feb 12 by Mach_foreignBlue |
If we fail to go up these 58 people will be happy to give McKenna another season and another transfer windows.
Less than two months ago we were top of the league now auto promotion looks remote. |
I will be. You clearly won’t be. I personally think either employ somebody have faith in them and support them or you don’t.
Nobody can be happy that the team has fallen away as it has. It should have pushed on. But we haven’t. The trick is to understand why and improve. Changing managers every 18 months may give the play station brigade red faced excitement like that tool Jim White on transfer deadline night, but the only thing it guarantees is turmoil. I know most people demand instant success in todays world, but it doesn’t always work that way, especially in sport.
‘We need an experienced manager’, ‘we need fresh ideas’, ‘we need a defensive coach’, ‘we need a new bedsheet’ etc etc etc. When people on here say ‘I’m not saying we need a new manager but’ that’s exactly the same as saying ‘I don’t mean to be rude’. Yes they do and yes, there are some on here who’d like to see KM gone tomorrow.
Fine, but I personally think that patience, support, time continuous improvement (a real bullsh1t bingo term) is sometimes better than hurling the toys about. That is not the same as accepting mediocrity which we did under Evans. Not acceptable. This club has progressed immeasurably in the last two years and we should have expectations and demand better. There are no excuses now.
The least I hope is that there is a proper analysis of what went wrong this season assuming we fail and something is done about it. As the EADT says, something isn’t right. But screaming for old man Warnock and kicking out a new manager after 15 months doesn’t look the right solution to me. |  | | |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:24 - Feb 12 with 694 views | FrimleyBlue |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:20 - Feb 12 by Stewart27 |
Don’t mate.
It will be totally lost on him.
Doesn’t do the live experience. Just takes the keyboard before, during and after every single game - and a very large proportion of every waking hour.
Like he’s already said, the result was the same for him as it was for us. |
It's more lost on you why I was saying " really" in the first place.
Btw, you take to the keyboard too. | |
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| I feel sometimes I’m watching different games and am connected to a differentï on 10:24 - Feb 12 with 690 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| I feel sometimes I’m watching different games and am connected to a differentï on 10:03 - Feb 12 by Stewart27 |
I genuinely want to know your plan. You seem to have it all figured out.
Tell me your plan about how to get more from the players by the way that supporters should be conducting themselves.
Over to you. |
Found the “incredible” support when we got relegated very odd. Team were basically cheered off.
Yesterday the north turned at 0-2 and that didn’t seem to do any harm did it? Soft touch and almost always have been. | | | |
| I feel sometimes I’m watching different games and am connected to a differentï on 10:29 - Feb 12 with 673 views | nodge_blue |
My son said it was the most exciting game he has seen all season.
Apart for a ten minute implosion we played pretty well.
Im still excited.
Even if we are destined for play offs. |  |
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| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:33 - Feb 12 with 663 views | Churchman |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:10 - Feb 12 by FrimleyBlue |
" They were two managers with no defined strategy, pattern of play or ethos"
wrong though, both had plans
Lambert was the closest to what KM is doing, but KM is getting us doing it higher up the pitch, resulting in something that looks better but is failing at certain aspects still |
They really didn’t. Cook created a ‘bomb squad’ for all bar a couple of players, brought a load in, threw them together and hoped for the best. That isn’t a plan, that’s chaos. As for Lambert, the closest he got to a plan was deciding whether the Celtic or Dortmund DVD should be put on. He was a useless bag of wind. A fraud.
You clearly don’t rate ‘smarmy’ McKenna and never will - who’d you prefer next? Danny Cowley, the sacked bloke from Wigan who was getting garlands and tributes on here a year ago or Neil Warnock? | | | |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:37 - Feb 12 with 657 views | Plums |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:33 - Feb 12 by Churchman |
They really didn’t. Cook created a ‘bomb squad’ for all bar a couple of players, brought a load in, threw them together and hoped for the best. That isn’t a plan, that’s chaos. As for Lambert, the closest he got to a plan was deciding whether the Celtic or Dortmund DVD should be put on. He was a useless bag of wind. A fraud.
You clearly don’t rate ‘smarmy’ McKenna and never will - who’d you prefer next? Danny Cowley, the sacked bloke from Wigan who was getting garlands and tributes on here a year ago or Neil Warnock? |
Thank you for responding whilst I was trying to find the words. How on earth what those two served up behind the scenes and on the pitch can be equated to what we have today beggars belief.
I'm with you. | |
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| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:39 - Feb 12 with 650 views | FrimleyBlue |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:33 - Feb 12 by Churchman |
They really didn’t. Cook created a ‘bomb squad’ for all bar a couple of players, brought a load in, threw them together and hoped for the best. That isn’t a plan, that’s chaos. As for Lambert, the closest he got to a plan was deciding whether the Celtic or Dortmund DVD should be put on. He was a useless bag of wind. A fraud.
You clearly don’t rate ‘smarmy’ McKenna and never will - who’d you prefer next? Danny Cowley, the sacked bloke from Wigan who was getting garlands and tributes on here a year ago or Neil Warnock? |
Not sure why you're turning this into a KM discussion, the post was about Lambert and PC and them not having plans. It's wrong, they did have plans. They didn't work out, but they still as individuals had plans.
But as you ask about KM, again, i'm happy to see what he manages to achieve here, I think his idea of football is well suited to the higher levels and it's not something I feel will get us promoted from league 1... so he'll either tweak it and we see something slightly different next season and hopefully that takes us up... or he leaves early for a champ club and we'll see what his style does in a league that's more suitable for it.
He has a lot to learn, he does a lot right, he does a lot wrong imo, As much as I think it's to strong for people to say KM out, it's not the time, but I also feel it's to strong when people get overjoyed with him when we've only won 4 games in 3 months. | |
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| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:43 - Feb 12 with 644 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:22 - Feb 12 by Churchman |
I will be. You clearly won’t be. I personally think either employ somebody have faith in them and support them or you don’t.
Nobody can be happy that the team has fallen away as it has. It should have pushed on. But we haven’t. The trick is to understand why and improve. Changing managers every 18 months may give the play station brigade red faced excitement like that tool Jim White on transfer deadline night, but the only thing it guarantees is turmoil. I know most people demand instant success in todays world, but it doesn’t always work that way, especially in sport.
‘We need an experienced manager’, ‘we need fresh ideas’, ‘we need a defensive coach’, ‘we need a new bedsheet’ etc etc etc. When people on here say ‘I’m not saying we need a new manager but’ that’s exactly the same as saying ‘I don’t mean to be rude’. Yes they do and yes, there are some on here who’d like to see KM gone tomorrow.
Fine, but I personally think that patience, support, time continuous improvement (a real bullsh1t bingo term) is sometimes better than hurling the toys about. That is not the same as accepting mediocrity which we did under Evans. Not acceptable. This club has progressed immeasurably in the last two years and we should have expectations and demand better. There are no excuses now.
The least I hope is that there is a proper analysis of what went wrong this season assuming we fail and something is done about it. As the EADT says, something isn’t right. But screaming for old man Warnock and kicking out a new manager after 15 months doesn’t look the right solution to me. |
'That is not the same as accepting mediocrity which we did under Evans'.
You will still accept the mediocrity if we fail to go up. There will be no excuses if we stay in this league beyond this season. It's an expensively assembled squad, the manager has been with us for 14 months and had 3 transfer windows. | | | |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:48 - Feb 12 with 640 views | FrimleyBlue |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:37 - Feb 12 by Plums |
Thank you for responding whilst I was trying to find the words. How on earth what those two served up behind the scenes and on the pitch can be equated to what we have today beggars belief.
I'm with you. |
TBH, you can't even compare the time of lambert with what we have now as he didn't have the resources, the squad or even the club that we do now.
PC had a hand in bringing in all these players fans absolutely love now. But he was just rubbish at the managing aspect. which is slightly an important part :)
We don't know how KM's season is going to finish yet, but at present, he's done what lambert did in taking the team top and letting it slip.. Hopefully he can still get something out of this season. | |
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| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:51 - Feb 12 with 636 views | Churchman |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:39 - Feb 12 by FrimleyBlue |
Not sure why you're turning this into a KM discussion, the post was about Lambert and PC and them not having plans. It's wrong, they did have plans. They didn't work out, but they still as individuals had plans.
But as you ask about KM, again, i'm happy to see what he manages to achieve here, I think his idea of football is well suited to the higher levels and it's not something I feel will get us promoted from league 1... so he'll either tweak it and we see something slightly different next season and hopefully that takes us up... or he leaves early for a champ club and we'll see what his style does in a league that's more suitable for it.
He has a lot to learn, he does a lot right, he does a lot wrong imo, As much as I think it's to strong for people to say KM out, it's not the time, but I also feel it's to strong when people get overjoyed with him when we've only won 4 games in 3 months. |
What plans did Lambert have then? Acquire as many players as you can and hope for the best is not a plan. If he did, it’s a shame he didn’t share them with anyone else. And I’m struggling to understand how coffee cup Cook’s miserable efforts amounted to anything other than an on the hoof shambles either.
As for McKenna, show me one post that says anyone is ‘overjoyed with him’. Just one. | | | |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:57 - Feb 12 with 629 views | FrimleyBlue |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:51 - Feb 12 by Churchman |
What plans did Lambert have then? Acquire as many players as you can and hope for the best is not a plan. If he did, it’s a shame he didn’t share them with anyone else. And I’m struggling to understand how coffee cup Cook’s miserable efforts amounted to anything other than an on the hoof shambles either.
As for McKenna, show me one post that says anyone is ‘overjoyed with him’. Just one. |
Churchman, there was one only last week where he's seen as the best manager town have had since Sir Bobby... , there's also plenty who are incredibly happy with him, it's all over the forum.
And again, you're trying to compare a time under the previous regime, with no recruitment team, etc, so it's not surprising things like transfers were all over the shop.
The point being however, is lambert just like PC had a plan on matchdays on how they wanted to the play the game, it failed in the end, but it was their own individual plans, it's not on us fans to decide that they as individuals didn't have one just because it failed.
That's like saying KM doesn't actually have a plan because we've struggled to win, he has a plan, just like all others. | |
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| People who refuse to offer any.... on 11:50 - Feb 12 with 587 views | Beckets |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 10:48 - Feb 12 by FrimleyBlue |
TBH, you can't even compare the time of lambert with what we have now as he didn't have the resources, the squad or even the club that we do now.
PC had a hand in bringing in all these players fans absolutely love now. But he was just rubbish at the managing aspect. which is slightly an important part :)
We don't know how KM's season is going to finish yet, but at present, he's done what lambert did in taking the team top and letting it slip.. Hopefully he can still get something out of this season. |
Of yesterdays starting line up only 3 were brought in permanently by Cook plus Walton on loan. Plus just Aluko off the bench. That perhaps tells us what the current regime think of Cook’s signings. |  | | |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 12:42 - Feb 12 with 536 views | FrimleyBlue |
| People who refuse to offer any.... on 11:50 - Feb 12 by Beckets |
Of yesterdays starting line up only 3 were brought in permanently by Cook plus Walton on loan. Plus just Aluko off the bench. That perhaps tells us what the current regime think of Cook’s signings. |
Most managers end up replacing a squad over time, it's normal, especially one which has a completely different style to any other league 1 manager before them. | |
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