| Bloody international call ups! 20:35 - Mar 13 with 12828 views | ArnieM |
That’s the last thing we need. Causing us to call games off will break our momentum, and probably end out winning run. I doubt Plymouth will have this problem . Absolute cock up if this happens in my humble opinion. |  |
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| Bloody international call ups! on 20:21 - Mar 14 with 1492 views | Stadiumofdark |
| Bloody international call ups! on 10:40 - Mar 14 by J2BLUE |
Cock up? How? |
Signing good young players, that risk getting called up to represent their country. Proper cock up.
Should have kept Sears, Nolan, Kenlock etc |  | | |
| Bloody international call ups! on 20:24 - Mar 14 with 1492 views | PhilTWTD |
| Bloody international call ups! on 20:12 - Mar 14 by Kropotkin123 |
I don't know, I've been reading this thread and it seems like it could be impossible. What are the chances of us having to forfeit the result and potentially our season? |
They'll just decide the result based on attendances. |  | | |
| Bloody international call ups! on 20:33 - Mar 14 with 1463 views | BuffaloBill |
| Bloody international call ups! on 20:24 - Mar 14 by PhilTWTD |
They'll just decide the result based on attendances. |
Actual people or people plus scarves? |  |
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| Bloody international call ups! on 20:33 - Mar 14 with 1463 views | Herbivore |
| Bloody international call ups! on 20:24 - Mar 14 by PhilTWTD |
They'll just decide the result based on attendances. |
Could they just finally award Harness' goal and we get a 1-0? |  |
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| Bloody international call ups! on 20:35 - Mar 14 with 1462 views | PhilTWTD |
| Bloody international call ups! on 20:33 - Mar 14 by Herbivore |
Could they just finally award Harness' goal and we get a 1-0? |
I believe we're beyond the statute of limitations for disallowed goals. | | | |
| Bloody international call ups! on 20:36 - Mar 14 with 1458 views | PhilTWTD |
| Bloody international call ups! on 20:33 - Mar 14 by BuffaloBill |
Actual people or people plus scarves? |
Scarves included except for half-and-half scarves, obviously. | | | |
| Bloody international call ups! on 20:40 - Mar 14 with 1430 views | PhilTWTD |
| Bloody international call ups! on 19:36 - Mar 14 by Vegtablue |
I don't see us reaching three players now Leigh has missed out. Bit gutted we'll have to play a massive match weakened, all for a pointless international, but at least fans' plans won't be disrupted. Unless Egypt have injury woes in the middle? |
Leigh hasn't missed out, squad for the FIFA window hasn't been announced. They announced a shadow squad for some other games outside the window. | | | |
| Bloody international call ups! on 20:44 - Mar 14 with 1411 views | ArnieM |
| Bloody international call ups! on 20:04 - Mar 14 by BlueStreak |
You can’t see the benefit of postponing the Barnsley game if we didn’t have Broadhead, Burns, Leigh and potentially Morsy not available? Jeez you get worse. |
At no point have I said it’s a good idea to play the game without our strongest players. Clearly it isn’t .
What I have tired to say is its a “cock up” (to our current momentum/ run) that the fixture will have to be postponed because it’ll
A) mean we’ll disrupt our current momentum. We are essentially forced to disrupt our run. Not a good thing, and I suspect Plymouth are happy we probably won’t be playing. It stops our momentum
( we’re on a really good run) - they’d want our run to be disrupted surely?
B) When we do have to play Barnsley, ( at the very end of the season?) it could be winner takes 2nd place? … would you rather have your last game against Fleetwood for that final must win game or Barnsley?
If you like this international break is the potential “cock up” to our current run . It’s taken all bloody season to find this run, snd now it’s going to be disrupted. I can’t see why people are getting so bloody arsey that I’m voicing concerns about it. Clearly you and some others feel we’ll just plop back into our current run of form after the international break . I’m not so sure (given our past efforts after international breaks). If we break with that “tradition”, then great. No problem. But I’m not sure we would nor would I want to play Barnsley in an end of season showdown , rather than Fleetwood. But we don’t have a choice do we . Three players called up and the game’s off . | |
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| Bloody international call ups! on 20:44 - Mar 14 with 1408 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Bloody international call ups! on 20:24 - Mar 14 by PhilTWTD |
They'll just decide the result based on attendances. |
While I for one shall be practicing my atten dancing skills. |  |
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| Bloody international call ups! on 21:03 - Mar 14 with 1364 views | Vegtablue |
| Bloody international call ups! on 19:59 - Mar 14 by tractorboy1978 |
Leigh hasn't missed out? |
Oh my bad lol, read on a different thread that he had! |  | | |
| Bloody international call ups! on 21:04 - Mar 14 with 1364 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Bloody international call ups! on 20:44 - Mar 14 by ArnieM |
At no point have I said it’s a good idea to play the game without our strongest players. Clearly it isn’t .
What I have tired to say is its a “cock up” (to our current momentum/ run) that the fixture will have to be postponed because it’ll
A) mean we’ll disrupt our current momentum. We are essentially forced to disrupt our run. Not a good thing, and I suspect Plymouth are happy we probably won’t be playing. It stops our momentum
( we’re on a really good run) - they’d want our run to be disrupted surely?
B) When we do have to play Barnsley, ( at the very end of the season?) it could be winner takes 2nd place? … would you rather have your last game against Fleetwood for that final must win game or Barnsley?
If you like this international break is the potential “cock up” to our current run . It’s taken all bloody season to find this run, snd now it’s going to be disrupted. I can’t see why people are getting so bloody arsey that I’m voicing concerns about it. Clearly you and some others feel we’ll just plop back into our current run of form after the international break . I’m not so sure (given our past efforts after international breaks). If we break with that “tradition”, then great. No problem. But I’m not sure we would nor would I want to play Barnsley in an end of season showdown , rather than Fleetwood. But we don’t have a choice do we . Three players called up and the game’s off . |
It wouldn’t be and can’t be the last game of the season, it’ll still be Fleetwood. They all have to kick off at the same time on the same day. [Post edited 14 Mar 2023 21:05]
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| Bloody international call ups! on 21:11 - Mar 14 with 1347 views | Herbivore |
| Bloody international call ups! on 20:44 - Mar 14 by ArnieM |
At no point have I said it’s a good idea to play the game without our strongest players. Clearly it isn’t .
What I have tired to say is its a “cock up” (to our current momentum/ run) that the fixture will have to be postponed because it’ll
A) mean we’ll disrupt our current momentum. We are essentially forced to disrupt our run. Not a good thing, and I suspect Plymouth are happy we probably won’t be playing. It stops our momentum
( we’re on a really good run) - they’d want our run to be disrupted surely?
B) When we do have to play Barnsley, ( at the very end of the season?) it could be winner takes 2nd place? … would you rather have your last game against Fleetwood for that final must win game or Barnsley?
If you like this international break is the potential “cock up” to our current run . It’s taken all bloody season to find this run, snd now it’s going to be disrupted. I can’t see why people are getting so bloody arsey that I’m voicing concerns about it. Clearly you and some others feel we’ll just plop back into our current run of form after the international break . I’m not so sure (given our past efforts after international breaks). If we break with that “tradition”, then great. No problem. But I’m not sure we would nor would I want to play Barnsley in an end of season showdown , rather than Fleetwood. But we don’t have a choice do we . Three players called up and the game’s off . |
We won't be playing Barnsley last game of the season. Final fixtures in the competition always all take place on the same date at the same time. There is zero chance that we end up playing Barnsley after everyone else has played their final fixture unless it's in the play offs.
Edit - And we do have a choice whether to call the game off or not. But we'd be mad to go ahead if we're missing three or four first team players. [Post edited 14 Mar 2023 21:12]
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| Bloody international call ups! on 00:14 - Mar 15 with 1255 views | Ryorry |
| Bloody international call ups! on 20:35 - Mar 14 by PhilTWTD |
I believe we're beyond the statute of limitations for disallowed goals. |
How about a review of the coin-throwing at Hillsborough, and us being awarded all three points whilst Wednesday are deducted their one?
PS And while we're at it, a judicial review of Oxford away, the match result getting overturned as unsafe, & a 1-1 draw awarded instead. [Post edited 15 Mar 2023 3:41]
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| Bloody international call ups! on 05:15 - Mar 15 with 1213 views | ArchiRob |
| Bloody international call ups! on 20:35 - Mar 14 by PhilTWTD |
I believe we're beyond the statute of limitations for disallowed goals. |
Did they really make a statue of it ? |  |
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| Bloody international call ups! on 05:30 - Mar 15 with 1207 views | ArchiRob |
| Bloody international call ups! on 17:19 - Mar 14 by backwaywhen |
Week 4 of April , they will drop out off autos and rest a few for play offs ….. IMHO |
Or right in the mix for a dogfight.
The manager is astute if He thinks we can beat them with the available squad at his disposal or if he thinks tactically defer the game then no adverse comments from me.
I have been unsure of some of his descions but most of his calls have been correct. He watches more games and will make the best call .
Barnsley on a midweek sandwiched between two weekend games would be something tactically I would prefer to avoid doesn't matter what you consider your best team then as you will certainly need to introduce rotation anyway? And what would winning a game without two key players do for moral | |
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| Bloody international call ups! on 07:31 - Mar 15 with 1150 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Bloody international call ups! on 05:30 - Mar 15 by ArchiRob |
Or right in the mix for a dogfight.
The manager is astute if He thinks we can beat them with the available squad at his disposal or if he thinks tactically defer the game then no adverse comments from me.
I have been unsure of some of his descions but most of his calls have been correct. He watches more games and will make the best call .
Barnsley on a midweek sandwiched between two weekend games would be something tactically I would prefer to avoid doesn't matter what you consider your best team then as you will certainly need to introduce rotation anyway? And what would winning a game without two key players do for moral |
If it was the play off final (and this could well turn out to effectively be if us and Barnsley are vying for 2nd) people would not be wanting to go into it without Burns/Broadhead.
I don't think McKenna is going to rotate much at all now regardless. I think other than Hirst/Ladapo the other 10 are nailed on injuries/suspensions permitting. We have 10 cup finals to get over the line. We need our best 11 starting. | | | |
| Bloody international call ups! on 07:35 - Mar 15 with 1132 views | Herbivore |
| Bloody international call ups! on 07:31 - Mar 15 by tractorboy1978 |
If it was the play off final (and this could well turn out to effectively be if us and Barnsley are vying for 2nd) people would not be wanting to go into it without Burns/Broadhead.
I don't think McKenna is going to rotate much at all now regardless. I think other than Hirst/Ladapo the other 10 are nailed on injuries/suspensions permitting. We have 10 cup finals to get over the line. We need our best 11 starting. |
Burns and Broadhead have been pivotal to our attacking game in recent weeks, it's madness to think it's a good idea to willingly go into our toughest remaining game without them. Leigh is less of a miss, obviously, but if Morsy got called up we'd be massively under strength. Even if it's Leigh and not Morsy that gets a call up, I'd still call it off. | |
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| Bloody international call ups! on 08:17 - Mar 15 with 1066 views | ArchiRob |
| Bloody international call ups! on 07:35 - Mar 15 by Herbivore |
Burns and Broadhead have been pivotal to our attacking game in recent weeks, it's madness to think it's a good idea to willingly go into our toughest remaining game without them. Leigh is less of a miss, obviously, but if Morsy got called up we'd be massively under strength. Even if it's Leigh and not Morsy that gets a call up, I'd still call it off. |
Just saying i would not critize the manager either way.
I trust that he will pick the team to beat them whatever - I can see the advantages and disadvantages either way on this one | |
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| Bloody international call ups! on 08:20 - Mar 15 with 1046 views | Herbivore |
| Bloody international call ups! on 08:17 - Mar 15 by ArchiRob |
Just saying i would not critize the manager either way.
I trust that he will pick the team to beat them whatever - I can see the advantages and disadvantages either way on this one |
If he makes that call it's a brave one and I'd be surprised if he does. Imagine going there missing two or three of our best players and getting turned over, this place would go into meltdown. | |
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| Bloody international call ups! on 08:21 - Mar 15 with 1042 views | StokieBlue |
| Bloody international call ups! on 08:20 - Mar 15 by Herbivore |
If he makes that call it's a brave one and I'd be surprised if he does. Imagine going there missing two or three of our best players and getting turned over, this place would go into meltdown. |
It would be madness playing a team with the potential to overtake us if they beat us without Broadhead and Burns if one has the choice not to play.
Given McKenna doesn't seem to be mad it simply would never happen.
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| Bloody international call ups! on 08:49 - Mar 15 with 990 views | ArchiRob |
| Bloody international call ups! on 08:21 - Mar 15 by StokieBlue |
It would be madness playing a team with the potential to overtake us if they beat us without Broadhead and Burns if one has the choice not to play.
Given McKenna doesn't seem to be mad it simply would never happen.
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Agree it would be very brave given the general negativity of this board. But you got to admit he has the balls - cant think of any other manager leaving their in form striker (Ladapo) on the bench and perservering with an on loan striker - but that just paid off big time. Fantastic goal.
Just saying I would entirely trust his descion and would certainly not attack it afterwards. He clearly studies the oposition and is fully aware of what he needs to compete with them. There are so many tactical nuances to take into account over this. Have to say he has won me over and what ever happens this club is on the up.
anyway until another call up this is hyperthetical anyway - may even be called off bad weather given how things are going | |
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| Bloody international call ups! on 09:03 - Mar 15 with 950 views | StokieBlue |
| Bloody international call ups! on 08:49 - Mar 15 by ArchiRob |
Agree it would be very brave given the general negativity of this board. But you got to admit he has the balls - cant think of any other manager leaving their in form striker (Ladapo) on the bench and perservering with an on loan striker - but that just paid off big time. Fantastic goal.
Just saying I would entirely trust his descion and would certainly not attack it afterwards. He clearly studies the oposition and is fully aware of what he needs to compete with them. There are so many tactical nuances to take into account over this. Have to say he has won me over and what ever happens this club is on the up.
anyway until another call up this is hyperthetical anyway - may even be called off bad weather given how things are going |
I'm not sure about a few of those points:
"Agree it would be very brave given the general negativity of this board"
This board isn't generally negativity, you've taken a few posters and extrapolated something that isn't there.
" you got to admit he has the balls - cant think of any other manager leaving their in form striker (Ladapo) on the bench and perservering with an on loan striker - but that just paid off big time. Fantastic goal."
Is Hirst not as in-form as Ladapo? He's been excellent in his last few matches, Phil was singing his praises on here as someone he felt should start ahead of Ladapo. We will rotate strikers the rest of the season I would expect, this is nothing new.
"Just saying I would entirely trust his descion and would certainly not attack it afterwards. He clearly studies the oposition and is fully aware of what he needs to compete with them. There are so many tactical nuances to take into account over this. Have to say he has won me over and what ever happens this club is on the up."
I am not sure there are any tactical nuances to take into account. It's always worse to deliberately play a match with a weakened team. We need to stop worrying about other teams, their form, their players and focus on what is best for us and that's playing our strongest team possible.
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| Bloody international call ups! on 09:09 - Mar 15 with 937 views | ArnieM |
| Bloody international call ups! on 21:11 - Mar 14 by Herbivore |
We won't be playing Barnsley last game of the season. Final fixtures in the competition always all take place on the same date at the same time. There is zero chance that we end up playing Barnsley after everyone else has played their final fixture unless it's in the play offs.
Edit - And we do have a choice whether to call the game off or not. But we'd be mad to go ahead if we're missing three or four first team players. [Post edited 14 Mar 2023 21:12]
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Thanks for your response Herb, I do appreciate it.
I am aware the last game of season is all at same time on a Sunday normally. So this must mean Barnsley game will be squeezed in a very busy April schedule. Not ideal.
I suppose all I was trying to do was vent my frustration in this thread about the impact international breaks have on the domestic fixtures. We know this league is tough and the difference between promotion and also rans, is very fine margins. I’m not sure how the IB will affect our promotion rivals but these fine margins may have just got finer and all I was trying to say was it’s likely to put a spanner in the works as regards our momentum, fixture congestion snd possibly even injuries ( which I accept can happen any time) . The like of Plymouth and Barnsley (our two main rivals?) if not disrupted by IB would conceivably be rubbing their hands at the impact it might have on us.
I’ve never at any point suggested we play the game with a weakened team because clearly that’s madness, and there is no easy answer . What will be, will be. But it might just be the feather that tips the scales . I hope not! | |
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| Bloody international call ups! on 09:24 - Mar 15 with 924 views | ArchiRob |
| Bloody international call ups! on 09:03 - Mar 15 by StokieBlue |
I'm not sure about a few of those points:
"Agree it would be very brave given the general negativity of this board"
This board isn't generally negativity, you've taken a few posters and extrapolated something that isn't there.
" you got to admit he has the balls - cant think of any other manager leaving their in form striker (Ladapo) on the bench and perservering with an on loan striker - but that just paid off big time. Fantastic goal."
Is Hirst not as in-form as Ladapo? He's been excellent in his last few matches, Phil was singing his praises on here as someone he felt should start ahead of Ladapo. We will rotate strikers the rest of the season I would expect, this is nothing new.
"Just saying I would entirely trust his descion and would certainly not attack it afterwards. He clearly studies the oposition and is fully aware of what he needs to compete with them. There are so many tactical nuances to take into account over this. Have to say he has won me over and what ever happens this club is on the up."
I am not sure there are any tactical nuances to take into account. It's always worse to deliberately play a match with a weakened team. We need to stop worrying about other teams, their form, their players and focus on what is best for us and that's playing our strongest team possible.
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Negativity - lot of posts weve blown it- wont make playoffs/ McK wrong manager/go back and see whats been written on Burns/Ladapo
Hirst - looked better each game, but was not scoring while Ladapo was - braces even
so I consider that a very brave descision - my personal view
Tactical nuances - 3 games in 8 days/travelling to Barnsley after traveling to Peterborough/possible need to rotate/ F**k knows what will happen to our players injurywise with the internationals - they dont look after them the way the club does/we know what players we got now not in a months time - injuries/
Weakened Team -I think Broadhead is a really amazing aquisition and I dislike see him missing games, but I believe we have a very good squad and great team spirit.
Its McK's call just dont think its as straightforward as that and whatever his descion is I for one will not be critical of later | |
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| Bloody international call ups! on 09:26 - Mar 15 with 919 views | N2_Blue |
| Bloody international call ups! on 09:09 - Mar 15 by ArnieM |
Thanks for your response Herb, I do appreciate it.
I am aware the last game of season is all at same time on a Sunday normally. So this must mean Barnsley game will be squeezed in a very busy April schedule. Not ideal.
I suppose all I was trying to do was vent my frustration in this thread about the impact international breaks have on the domestic fixtures. We know this league is tough and the difference between promotion and also rans, is very fine margins. I’m not sure how the IB will affect our promotion rivals but these fine margins may have just got finer and all I was trying to say was it’s likely to put a spanner in the works as regards our momentum, fixture congestion snd possibly even injuries ( which I accept can happen any time) . The like of Plymouth and Barnsley (our two main rivals?) if not disrupted by IB would conceivably be rubbing their hands at the impact it might have on us.
I’ve never at any point suggested we play the game with a weakened team because clearly that’s madness, and there is no easy answer . What will be, will be. But it might just be the feather that tips the scales . I hope not! |
you seem to be moaning about how many fixtures that we may face in April with a postponed Barnsley game.
You do realise:
1) Barnsley have played two less games than us and have the problem of potentially squeezing the game in with us - so they are in a worse position.
2) Plymouth have a Wembley date and all the preparation that goes with that to contend with.
I think you are making this a much bigger deal than it is. Even though we are on a good run of form I think Mckenna might relish a mini break, get everyone fit, shake off the aches and pains and have a final assault on the last 10 games with a squad with far superior depth to that of Plymouth and Barnsley. I know which club I'd rather be at this stage. |  |
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